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KatchGOLD Member
Beach bum
162 posts
Location: Singapore


Posted:
Finally got myself a pair of Malcolm's really wicked "Wolf's Revenge" poi. biggrin The cable seems to swing a bit differently from the chains I normally use. Actually had quite a blast them until one of the poi wrapped around my right wrist and seared a bit of my skin (now I know what burning flesh smells like) eek . I love using the set though, and won't give it up. wink

Wearing a jumper while spinning isn't quite a luxury I have given that I live in an exceeedingly warm country. Would you guys know of anything else I might be able to try (at least until I stop hitting myself so often)? Are those fire-retardant car-racing arm thinggies or is it safer to brave the cords and stick to a standard shirt? confused

Thanks! biggrin

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-Franklin P. Jones


Devilstick_RussellBRONZE Member
I like devilstick...
196 posts
Location: Falmouth, United Kingdom


Posted:
you can just cut the arms off an old jumper so you are only wearing them where they will be usefull and aviod over heating if you were wearing a whole jumper. Or you could move to England where your problem is only relevant about three times a year. Actually its pretty nice today.

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nativeSILVER Member
sleeping with angels
508 posts
Location: anaheim CA usa


Posted:
when i spin i dont wear a shirt just bare skin extra cloth inhibits movment

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Kitveteran
1,269 posts
Location: middle of Troon


Posted:
why would you wanna prevent scars?

kay its hurts.. but to quote the PooKs 'burns heal and chicks dig scars...'

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KatchGOLD Member
Beach bum
162 posts
Location: Singapore


Posted:
Russell: I'd love to move to England for awhile (specially during our summer)... it might be more feasible to cut up jumpers though. Thanks for the advice wink

Native/ Kit: I'm a girl! (live in a somewhat conservative country ubbangel, and not quite into chicks wink ) biggrin

Experience is that marvelous thing that enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again.
-Franklin P. Jones


DomBRONZE Member
Carpal \'Tunnel
3,009 posts
Location: Bristol, UK


Posted:
How about a thin, loose cotton top (the type hippies wear)

Or cut the arms off a tight long -sleeve t-shirt to cover the parts of your arms that get hit most.

Also if you're using a hotter fuel (e.g. white gas) you're more likely to get a burn & scar than if you're using lamp oil.

mechBRONZE Member
Carpal \'Tunnel
6,207 posts
Location: "In your ear", United Kingdom


Posted:
how about cutting the sleves off a long armed tee shirt, and using those and pull on arm protectors, mena syou just pull them on and off while you are spinning?

Step (el-nombrie)


Klaymen 180 posts
Location: Melbourne, Vic.


Posted:
yeah long arm bands is the go. They look really awesome when you twirl poi, I had a mate who use to wear massive goth gauntlets when he twirled smile. He looked mad as. Good luck with your burns and preventions of smile.

- Klaymen

mo-sephenthusiast
524 posts
Location: Edinburgh, UK


Posted:
If you get hold of some leather, it's really easy to make forearm protectors - just cut a slightly tapered rectangle of leather to fit your forearm, make a row of holes down each edge and cut a couple of thin strips to lace it up with. Looks well 'ard, too smile

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adamricepoo-bah
1,015 posts
Location: Austin TX USA


Posted:
I've used the kevlar sleeves made for race-car pit crews. They're very effective, but a bit itchy. Lost mine--need another set.

Perhaps the cheapest and easiest arm guard is tube socks with the toes cut off. Wet them down with water before you light up for best effect.

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Devilstick_RussellBRONZE Member
I like devilstick...
196 posts
Location: Falmouth, United Kingdom


Posted:
Interesting how i have the complete opposite problem as i need devil sticks to be in contact with my skin to provide enough grip to perform most tricks. Sleeves just mess it all up. Unless i was to wear some super grippy Sleeves like PVC or lycra Hmm...

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onewheeldaveGOLD Member
Carpal \'Tunnel
3,252 posts
Location: sheffield, United Kingdom


Posted:
Written by: adamrice


I've used the kevlar sleeves made for race-car pit crews. They're very effective, but a bit itchy. Lost mine--need another set.

Perhaps the cheapest and easiest arm guard is tube socks with the toes cut off. Wet them down with water before you light up for best effect.




concerning wetting cloth as protection, this came up on a past safety thread: -

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About 3 years ago a boy who shall remain un-named thought he would be extra safe by wearing wet clothes with dry clothes over them to do some fire play. It went BADLY wrong and he cooked himself like a lobster. His dry clothes caught fire, heated the water on the damp clothes and caused him to have 3rd degree steam burns over a good share of his body. His friends did the stop-drop-and roll, but since the water of the clothes was already heated the burning process continued. He was admitted to the ER and remained in the burn unit for a fairly long time. He had taken what he thought was good safety precautions, even had friends who knew what to do, and was injured far worse than if he had have stayed in dry clothes.
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not the same scenario as adamrices suggestion as the sleeves he's talking about would not be under dry clothes, but I wanted to mention it anyway.

"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."

--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32


Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!


onewheeldaveGOLD Member
Carpal \'Tunnel
3,252 posts
Location: sheffield, United Kingdom


Posted:
Written by: Katch


...........Actually had quite a blast them until one of the poi wrapped around my right wrist and seared a bit of my skin (now I know what burning flesh smells like)

............. Would you guys know of anything else I might be able to try (at least until I stop hitting myself so often)?




Another think I'd like to say is that I find the idea of protecting arms a bit dodgy, for two reasons: -

1. If you're hitting yourself on the arms a lot then you shouldn't really be doing fire; you're better off getting solid with unlit poi so protection isn't necessary. This is especially so if you're getting accidental wraps round the arm because, although it's rare, the heads can get locked in a tangle round the chain/cable, and then you're in real trouble.

2. I would think that any form of fabric sleeving on the forearms is going to increase the risk of a burning head getting caught and stuck.

"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."

--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32


Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!


Dr_MollyPooh-Bah
2,354 posts
Location: Away from home


Posted:
on a scar prevention note for the burn you already have:

lavender oil and vitamin E oil (you can just squidge it out of the capsules you get as supplements, but once the burn has healed over - not into raw-flesh-badness)

alternatively pick at the scabs and have scar to remind you not to hit yourself with flames again. smile

take care
Molly
hug

Bender_the_OffenderGOLD Member
still can't believe it's not butter
6,979 posts
Location: Melbourne, Australia


Posted:
scars = no good

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bracers = peace

this is what i use.
putting them on is a nice ritual and the action is quite grounding before a routine.
take from it what you will.
peace

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KatchGOLD Member
Beach bum
162 posts
Location: Singapore


Posted:
Thanks for excellent advice everyone!

Dom/ Mech/ Klaymen: I'll try to look for a fitting longsleeved t-shirt if I can't find the kevlar sleeves Adam was suggesting.

Adam: I hope its tolerable itchy. Will look for a car shop that sells them. Hope they have my size... Are they just arm things, or is it a whole shirt? smile

Dave: I hear ya! I actually do practice a lot with unlit ones until I feel I've nailed the trick. Last Saturday though, I was somewhat nervous (never really having had an audience before) redface I do however keep a small fire extinguisher in my bag (never hurts to be too prepared for anything! biggrin)

Molly: Thanks for the advice, will run to the pharmacy in a bit and see if they've got the oils

Bender: Those arm guards you've got look really funky!

Experience is that marvelous thing that enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again.
-Franklin P. Jones


adamricepoo-bah
1,015 posts
Location: Austin TX USA


Posted:
The itchiness is tolerable, and they're just elastic sleeves that cover about 3/4 of your arms--no shirt. If you google "pit crew kevlar sleeve" you'll get a bunch of hits: here are a couple I found.

https://www.probuy.net/dir/94.html
https://www.centuryperformance.com/mechanix/sleeves.asp

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CodySILVER Member
That guy from Reno
556 posts
Location: Reno, Nevada USA


Posted:
Some sayings for thought.

"Pain is temporary, chicks dig scars and glory is forever"
(anonymous unless you know who)

"An expert is someone who has made every possible mistake in a given field"
(Niels Bohr) ( I bet Lightning knows who he is wink)

Burn on Crazy people biggrin

Cody Canon
Controlled Burn, Reno Nevada


DurbsBRONZE Member
Classically British
5,688 posts
Location: Epsom, Surrey, England


Posted:
Bender - Are those leather or Suede?

Look very cool and funky and they work too - even better! biggrin

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Bender_the_OffenderGOLD Member
still can't believe it's not butter
6,979 posts
Location: Melbourne, Australia


Posted:
them's both.
thems completely covers mine back of palm, leaving front of palm nekkid for delicate control of palmspins.
never assume that someone's else's choice in fire tools/clothing will stuit every person.
always try to think of how best to take elements of what you like and how you twirl. that is all that counts.





oh that and the olsen twins wink

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Raven_WolfeRunSILVER Member
journeyman
91 posts
Location: Houston, TX, in my chair, USA


Posted:
Whoa, those bracers were gfreat... you got a pattern for that?

May the flame on your balls not be too hot


Bender_the_OffenderGOLD Member
still can't believe it's not butter
6,979 posts
Location: Melbourne, Australia


Posted:
erm actaully i can probably scan them!!!
gimme a few days (or PM me to remind me, i am gettin' old) to do it, cus i dun have no scanner and have to lend.
thems bracers have definitely saved me a few times from nasty twine-poi death. costed about $15AU to make too!!
that's cheaper than Antartic Ayahausca! peace

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EveishGOLD Member
*Tickles pretty strangers*
610 posts
Location: Australia


Posted:
another thing to try is to get cotton stockings, cut the legs and feet off and wear them on your arms. I have found that this reduces burns and also looks really funky if you get striped stockings to cut up : )

What if I should fall right through the centre of the Earth and come out the other side where people walk upside-down?!


Bender_the_OffenderGOLD Member
still can't believe it's not butter
6,979 posts
Location: Melbourne, Australia


Posted:
my oh my i *DO* hope you take em off before you cut them legs off!
shorty.
nah only kiddingluvya!

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mattpoiBRONZE Member
member
20 posts
Location: davis, CA, USA


Posted:
socks and poi -- what a pair!

when my armwraps were less accurate and i was tired of smelling burnt hair during a light i cut the tips of crappy socks and wore them on my forearms.

i find that well fitting cotton baseball style t-shirt is enough to protect my upper boddy from harm. For my head hair i wear my trusty-poi-spinning-beanie or "skelly cap."

oh and.. one piece of advice.. poi and loose suspenders dont mix. sure the suspenders look awesomely nerdy, but then the loops fall over your arms and you almost burn yourself but luckily are able to throw you poi in the sand.. .heh.. yeah.. smile

PoiGirlBRONZE Member
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114 posts
Location: USA


Posted:
Hello Bender - man those bracers are ace! cool Just a couple questions: Can you put them on by yourself? And I see you just wrap the lace around and around your arm. How do secure it at the end? I can't quite tell from your picture.
devil

Bender_the_OffenderGOLD Member
still can't believe it's not butter
6,979 posts
Location: Melbourne, Australia


Posted:
yes, putting them on is a nice little meditation ritual i do before a big fire sesh.
it wraps around my forearms, then the other hand spirals the attached elastic string around.
it completely hugs the shape of the forearm. both ends of the elastic are attached to the punched-buttons.
ima scan it when i have the chance to!
glad youse like it, it's a very personal thingy i like. peace

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PoiGirlBRONZE Member
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114 posts
Location: USA


Posted:
Thanks for sharing this with all of us!! hug

But doesn't the elastic get fried?
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PoiGirlBRONZE Member
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114 posts
Location: USA


Posted:
Okay, I made some bracers today out of black denim, and despite the gigantic hems (mad) they're pretty cool. I'm going to look to see if we have some leather kicking around somewhere though.
You should market these...!
Thanks again. 'Preciate it. smile

Bender_the_OffenderGOLD Member
still can't believe it's not butter
6,979 posts
Location: Melbourne, Australia


Posted:
market them? the sheer fact that st least ONE person got so much outta my sharing a little part of something i love so much is worth more than any $$$ i coulda made selling it. peace

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KatchGOLD Member
Beach bum
162 posts
Location: Singapore


Posted:
That's really nice, and I do really appreciate the info as well... Am currently attempting to make a set (and a spare one for my sister) so I don't have to wear a long sleeved shirt all the time (it gets horribly warm... even without lighting up!) biggrin Thanks again bender! hug

Adam, I'm also scouring the karting arena... they might have a few old pit sleeves. smile Trying as many options as available!

Experience is that marvelous thing that enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again.
-Franklin P. Jones


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