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onewheeldave
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Posted:I received my copy a couple of days ago and I've got to say it's pretty amazing- really high quality of spinning and production from the entries.



Thanks once again to Malcolm and HOP for providing this opportunity to the spinning community. I notice that the price of the DVD is less than 5!- that's a real bargain and I'd recommend that everyone reading this gets themselves a copy.



The case looks a lot better this year, nice simple lilac design showing the idea of the spinning community around the world.



One thing I would like to see on future COLs would be a menu to save cycling through all the entries to get to particular ones, I think that even the most basic DVD writing packages have the ability to create a basic menu.



That aside, I reckon that this is the best COL ever.



The entries fall into two categories- those based on demonstrations of skill and those which are exceptionally well produced (visual quality, editing etc); with several falling into both those categories.



It's interesting to see that there are also two distinct styles of spinning- slow/graceful and very fast indeed- and we seemed to have finally reached a point where the skill level of the fast spinners has reached that of the slow ones



Also a lot of very effective pair, group and syncronised spinning- a look at the excellent 'fire Groove' shows how effective three people doing basic moves in time with each other looks.



My first flick through left me feeling a little negative amount the perponderance of fire in the dark, it seeming that everyone was on fire, with me feeling that it didn't accurately represent the actual proportions of fire to non-fire of our community.



However, having gone through the DVD several times, I do have to admit that, much of the fire is skillful fire.



Nevertheless, some of the skillful, but non-fire, stuff, really does stand out as a result of being surrounded by the rest- hopefully everyone will notice this and be more inclined to send in more daylight videos next year.



IMO it was good that, this year, fire-breathing was not permitted; while it's down to personal choice as to whether anyone practices this health-damaging spectacle, I really do appreciate the fact that I don't have to watch it on COL.



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I'm not going to go through every entry, as there are 30 in total and I've only had the DVD a couple of days- I'm finding that pretty much all the entries have something special when watched more than once.



Circumstantial Evidence- Very polished double staff routine with costume and a couple of fire lamps which seem to improve the lighting a lot.



Elias on Fire - despite the name, Elias was one of the few people not on fire, for which he has my gratitude as it enables us to admire his exceptional level of ability with double staffs, including some very neat contact moves.



Planet Zips - Fire, but skillful fire, with the female of the group having a very nifty dancey style.



The Story of the Lake - starts with graceful lakeside flags and goes onto an interesting combination of fire poi and fire-hands, then onto some scarily-long fire ropes; all skillfully done.



One Wheel Dave - that's me; possibly my last appearance on COL as my mates just bust his camera frown (Cheers to Tempest for once again doing the filming for this entry)

As always it's difficult to comment on my own stuff- any feedback from others will be appreciated.



The Amazing Rubber Heart Duo - very effective use of Singaporean-news-woman-voice-over talking about their world tour, cut with clips and images of it at the start. Based on one of their street shows, given a interesting look at how spinning can be performedin a live audience context- some truly excellent multi-staff passing. I also loved the background music.



Robert Bruce - another master of the 'slow spinning' style. Difficult moves and combinations made to look easy and relaxed.



Faisca - I'm not normally a fan of fast spinning, but this is good stuff, reminiscient of glowstringing.



Instruments of the Now - interesting because of the group members voice-overs detailing their various philosophies of spinning, much of which seems based on similar principles to the spiritual principals of martial arts: this kind of stuff is easy to pontificate about, but here it's well backed-up by the high levels of skill showing that they clearly have put in thousands of hours of practice in their chosen arts. Nice to see a bit of fire-devil-stick in there.



Fire Groove - Professional is the word that comes to mind- seems to have been shot on various film sets with a variety of effective costumes. Mainly syncronised spinning with beautiful music. If ever a film producer required some atmospheric spinning, this group would surely be the high on the list of possibilities.



Fire Sisters - UV surreality of the highest order (with matching music) smile it's always good to have something so totally different on the DVD- I especially liked the staff fight.



Infinitos - well thought out and rehearsed duo routine.



Dee D'Caro - very tight poi- the first time I saw this I wasn't really paying attention and so missed the fact that there's some meteors in here, done every bit as smoothly

as the poi.



Pheonix - excellent temple-like location with good use of fire-lamps to boost the light levels; well thought out paired routine and an unusual one-footed staff spin.



Arsn - As always, superb slow graceful sock-spinning, this year with some nifty throws; the final scene of handing over the tools of the art to the next generation was a nice touch smile



~SYNGE~ This is the last one on the DVD and I liked it a lot; with very effective use of good stills cut into the action; I also thought the music was great- unusually for COL it was some kind of Melodic Death Metal


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But you can make the Bastard work for it."

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newgabe
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Posted:Well, done the deed, watched the vid...including Masara in Daiba.



Omigoodness don't worry bout a thing Dave and Di, the first bit is suuuch a rip off, but soggy as noodles. The rest of their routine is fine in a feral firefan/adequate doubles kinda way...at least there's not a predictable fire chain finale... oh, hang on....



But I can see why it is on COL.. the mad grin is indeed priceless, and it is the doof ambience rather than the moon- and-water so poetically prevalent elsewhere...



Otherwise than that my fave bits were:

Dragons Dream: Can't see the 'tricks', but the centred joy of the lovely solo spinner were exactly what the Instruments of the Now lads are chatting about.



I liked their bit too, despite falling about laughing... we indeed have a new (verbal) instrument.. firedance meets psychobabble = Pyrobabble!



Loved Arsn of course, Robert Bruce, Clare and everyone else who put in the smooth clear flows. I did find myself, like MCP, occasionally shouting at the screen.. usually things like *stand up straight boy* or *synchro means at the same time you sloppy puppies*



And overall I like COL:

I like the combination of full professionalism and people doing it for the love of it... that actually says something that I love about this scene around the world.. the (usual) lack of snobbishness and elitism.



Some clips may not be the most fancy tricks but you could show anywhere and they'd look good. Kfire for instance. So we are witnessing the beginnings of the production-based Fire Video.. bring on FTV...



But I booked an appointment at the optometrist when I'd watched half of Ninaruna before I realised that it was Luke and not Viv! Good thing I saw you this summer or I'd still wbe worried if you ever got out of that tidal cave alive! hug

ps I have posted this in two threads cos it is relevant to both... not spamming, promise!)


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_Aime_
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_Aime_

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Posted:I feel bad saying what I'm about to say..I feel I should be going 'Wow' after watching this..but I didn't...


Too much

"Ooo fire isn't it oh so spiritual"

"Look at me I'm a big show-off"

"I am in the dark and nobody can see me"


Not enough

Smiling

Who on that DVD looked like they were actually enjoying themselves..?

Where were the smiles?
I'll admit, there were some..but the astomphere created by some of the videos hid the fun that some of you must have been having!

I'm going to refrain from writing a little review for each video for fear of hurting peoples feelings.
Knowing most of the winners read this forum puts me off saying "Well to tell you the truth I thought that was a bit rubbish"


I will say however I was lucky(?) enough to see the Eastboune Fire Festival in the flesh.
I was there with some of my friends from college.
"Oh wow do you really do stuff like that?!"

Maybe im biased as I've seen (and done?) so much more advanced stuff than these guys were pulling off...I thought the whole thing was a bit tacky.
And the camera was shakey.

Oh! And Fire Groove...
Nice spinning, lovely in fact, but I really didn't like where the video was filmed.
It was like a cross between an R'n'B video (tropical setting? check, scantily clad women? check, light and smoke machine? che...what?)
Then I was thrown back into the days of school discos, which for me made it look a little cheesy frown




A bit disspointed, and confusingly, feeling bad about myself for feeling this way confused


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Posted: Written by: Aime


Knowing most of the winners read this forum puts me off saying "Well to tell you the truth I thought that was a bit rubbish"


I will say however I was lucky(?) enough to see the Eastboune Fire Festival in the flesh.
I was there with some of my friends from college.
"Oh wow do you really do stuff like that?!"

Maybe i'm biased as I've seen (and done?) so much more advanced stuff than these guys were pulling off...I thought the whole thing was a bit tacky.
And the camera was shakey.

(snip)

A bit disspointed, and confusingly, feeling bad about myself for feeling this way confused



Thanks for the constructive cricism, when shot, I didn't have any knowledge of the competition. I did an edit of the 15 minute performance and did a couple of highlights videos to music.

I then noticed the competition on this site and decided to enter, cue a rushed week or two running around getting approvals from the talent. I then spent time running round getting some new music I could get approval for because I dont think the music used live or on the highlight reels would get approval.

To be honest after showing the talent the revised entry they were a bit down after feeling rather good about the highlight videos but we decided to enter, better to try and fail than fail to try.

I wasn't particularly hopeful given the tips on the video competition

not using"auto focus" - my bad, but didn't have time to set up the cameras for a fixed focus point at the middle of the stage, the lack of light drove the cameras nuts at times, very frustrating.
using a tripod - two camera angles, one handheld, one static, trouble is due to the point above, the static one didn't have that much footage. The position of the handheld could have been better, in between the crowd and the stage, but didn't have time to get there and was tiring holding a camera above ones head for 15 mins.
multiple camera angles - tried, but see the two points above.
having some extra light so we can see you - point taken and hopefully, if I enter next year that will be resolved.
filming in a nice location - not much you can do with an open air stage on a pebble beach in low light, but a point to take on board for next year.
dressing up - I though a lot of effort went into that by the talent.

Anyways, I was surprised when I got the email confirming I was on, so much I gave a whoop in the comfort of my own home and phoned the talent the good news.

My comments on the DVD are earlier on this thread, I feel priveleged to be on the DVD, I think the talent are quite happy and proud too.

The funny thing is watching it together the talent is dissecting the moves and the performance whilst I am dissecting and analysing the technical aspects of the video.

I am quite happy to admit that there are some videos there that blew me away either for the quality of the performance or the technical aspect of the edit and I feel privileged to be on the same DVD. Nonetheless it is inspiring to look at what needs to be done to raise the bar for next year, a little more time to arrange some music, to set up the cameras, get some equipment and consult with the talent as to what moves they want on the video as highlights.

Bring on next year's competition.


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ma'tina
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Posted:Salut....

.....i just watched the col dvd .....and after i had seen all the entries I actually was wondering wheather the competition is about the best costume, background or video edit......
.....I thought it's about spinning, throwing, dancing, juggling...etc.
people who take part at this competition should be able to control their toys/props and I couldnt see many who were able to do that......loads of self expression in different ways, but if i would be wanted to judge this competition and all the entries this year.......I can only share gabes attitude.....people watch your back....and if you want to be synchron work on that!!!!
apart from that.....
there were two outstandingly wicked entries, unfortunately you couldnt see all their abilities as the entries were only allowed to be 3 minutes!

First of all this Phoenix-Fire Project.....those two are smashing wonderful,....impressive and they can control their body and their props.....but they are even better than what you can see on the dvd.....still wonderfully done for only 3 minutes!

my all time favourite on this dvd will still be THE AMAZING RUBBERHEART DUO: you guys rock....sooooooooo much.....and you improved so much......you were the only two who made me smile, laugh and impressed me at the same time.....you can control you thousand staffs.....your body.....and you even integrate some kind of performance...which is awesome...my compliments! you put sooooo much time and love in your performances........how shall i compare with that???
thx for those 3 minutes of pleasure and fun......lovely to watch again,....and again and again.....hug

.....one wheel dave: I did love the juggling part at the end of your entry......esp. the angle you chose!!!

apart from that.....i did like ninasaru as well, but i expected more......or it just hasnt been the best performance i have seen by them so far....or lets rather say it like that i have seen better ones from them, but they sended in a different one!

dan: interesting! very dan i'd say! wink

anyway Oikeen hyv onnea, antti!


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Valura
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Posted: Written by: ma'tina



.....i just watched the col dvd .....and after i had seen all the entries I actually was wondering wheather the competition is about the best costume, background or video edit......



Thats something I would like to know too to be honest,
so just a general question... were the entries judged on spinning ability or the video background/editing? confused


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ma'tina
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Posted:thx valura,

thats what i was wondering as well, as you can see in my earlier post....is it more about spinning or the video itself...?


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Durbs
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Durbs

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Posted:In my ever-so-humble opinion, CoL is a video competition.
It's not a poi/staff competition, it's a competition about who can make the best overall video

In my mind, the top 3 was spot on - they were the 3 most watchable videos - none were overly dancey, none were overly arty, none were overly technical - they all had a very good blend of the above 3.

On a side note, I think it's bordering on very rude to criticise the top 3 in this manner - it implies (not very subtly) that you thought 1 or more of the top three don't deserve to be there. Which is fine if that's your opinion but surely is fairly harsh on those in the top 3 who deserve to feel rightly proud about their acheivements.


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Glåss
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Glåss

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Posted:COL Rules:
"#17 Judges decisions are final and no correspondence shall be entered unto."
http://www.homeofpoi.com/articles/video_compilation.php
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Having read the same debate 5 times already, for COL 1-5 i recommend you don't go there.
Take that as a "no comment".

I rationalise it as the winner is "whichever video Malcolm and co like the best".
Sometimes I agree with their result, sometimes i don't. Always it doesn't matter, as I am not one of the Judges.
But always for me, there are a handful of clips which stand out from the rest, and usually the winner and runners up are selected from that bunch.
COL gets better ever year.
Bring on COL 2007 biggrin


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Valura
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Valura

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Posted: Written by: Durbs


On a side note, I think it's bordering on very rude to criticise the top 3 in this manner - it implies (not very subtly) that you thought 1 or more of the top three don't deserve to be there. Which is fine if that's your opinion but surely is fairly harsh on those in the top 3 who deserve to feel rightly proud about their acheivements.



Um durbs, how are the top three being criticised? I dont understand. I just wanted to know if the spinning or the video presentation was quite important, so arsn and I can make some changes for next years video.

Since you have suggested that its a combo of the two we will now make a change to have more importance on the video aspect of things as well and not just concentrate on the techy spinny side of things.

confused confused confused
I had no intention of being rude to the winners of this years competition, I was just asking a general question. To be honest Im a bit hurt at that assumption.


TAJ "boat mummy." VALURA "yes sweetie you went on a boat, was daddy there with you?" TAJ "no, but monkey on boat" VALURA "well then sweetie, Daddy WAS there with you"

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Durbs
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Posted:hug Wasn't really aimed at you smile

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Valura
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Posted:ohhhhhhhhh I see.


*sneakily backs out of the room*


smile hug


TAJ "boat mummy." VALURA "yes sweetie you went on a boat, was daddy there with you?" TAJ "no, but monkey on boat" VALURA "well then sweetie, Daddy WAS there with you"

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ma'tina
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Posted: Written by: Durbs


IOn a side note, I think it's bordering on very rude to criticise the top 3 in this manner - it implies (not very subtly) that you thought 1 or more of the top three don't deserve to be there. Which is fine if that's your opinion but surely is fairly harsh on those in the top 3 who deserve to feel rightly proud about their acheivements.



i didnt critcise anyone....i was just asking like valura......to find out what this is all about.....

dont know why you have to get rude towards us......but i just dont know what is rude about asking what the important things about this competition are.........i dont even know all of the people who took part so why should i be rude to them???


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Aurinko
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Posted:oh oh ooooohhh grouphug
no one being rude, just miscommunication, yes?


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Durbs
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Posted:*slaps self on arse*

My bad redface Mis-reading things which aren't there...

Sorry hug


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Durbs
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Posted:...although in someways my point still remains.

Example - I entered a poi competition a couple of years back (Don't ever do this btw, they suck...).
Anyhoo, I ended up winning one of the "sections" which I was quite proud of. However, then one of the other competitors friends' went straight up to the judges and was asking them why they'd chosen me over their friend and how they could justify this (same points being raised - was it technical ability, or presentation etc.) - right in front of me.
This instantly turned my, i felt, vaguely deserved pride into feeling both guilty (because it wasn't really that big a deal and I wasn't that bothered about winning - nor did I think anyone else was) and actually quite offended that this person really didn't think I deserved to win and was demanding of the judges how I could possibly have done so.

So in my mind - when some winners are announced, and the first comments people post aren't "Well done winner-people - they were excellent videos" rather "Hey judges, what is the competition about? I thought it was meant to be the best blah blah blah" it still has a hint of "This entry/entries didn't deserve to be in the top 3".

But anyhoo...


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Aurinko
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Posted:hug for Durbs. Against this background your reaction makes perfect sense. I ain't gonna start a discussion about the pitfalls of electronic communication, hermeneutics and subjective realities now (it takes too much wine/beer to get through those discussions) ... nor do I claim that those concepts only apply to you ...
but as I don't have anything content-related to say, I'll leave the floor to those that really wanna discuss COL 2006
*sneaks out*


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_Clare_
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Posted:Durbs... hug

Doesn't really make sense now that the original post has been changed, but thats for the best....

See you next week smile


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SYNGE
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Posted:Ok.....so I'm curious........HOW are they judged?

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The Tea Fairy
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Posted:I got my copy over the weekend and I've watched it through about 6 times already (I find watching spinning almost as hypnotic as doing it). I thought everyone was just fantastic! I have favorites like everyone else, but it was so lovely to watch all those clips of people with very different stlyes of spinning, props, costumes, locations... all the variety makes it such a good dvd and my non-spinning friends watched it all the way through too.

It's not the winning, it's the taking part that counts, this is what makes the end product of such great quality - it is inspirational.


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Antti_Everything
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Posted:The compilation gets a bit better after watching it a few times. I guess there's something good for everyone. In making a presentation of the whole community it is a success. Then again the level could've been set a bit higher. But we can't know what videos were sent and which were left out so I don't know..



I'm looking for good performances, routines or just something personal and exceptional. And with that criteria the compilation was a disappointment to me.



My favourites were Ninaruna. But this is pretty much based on seeing them perform live and knowing that they have something really beautiful and personal and also technical. Unfortunately the video didn't reach their true level.



I liked the Pyroptics routine a lot. Not really my style but sort of technical and really smooth and surely works as a professional performance in raves etc.. It looked like he could've used more space to move a bit.



Dance of the three.. My favourite video video. I'm not sure how I would've liked it if I didn't know Dan. But I like that someone goes past the clichs of firespinning and has enough personality to go through with it.



Fire Groove. Sure you are beautiful and I'm sure you make a good living with what you do. And I can appreciate you being "professional" in what you do. But I can't understand why you settle for it. I hope you would set higher goals for yourselves. What you do now just leaves me cold and frustrated. I don't see any real dancing in your firedancing and doing something simple in sorta syncro doesn't qualify for a coreography.



I guess those were the ones that really stood out. I liked some of the poi vids being more about feeling than technique. I liked Synges photographs also.



I know not much good will come out of this but let me b...h a bit more.. more or less seriously. I will never forgive Arsn for the sock poi kick up. It's sad that Josh from Phoenix Fire Project had the best contactstaffage on the dvd and all of that was crap compared to his level now. Nothing personal but I think I will never understand One Wheel Daves style. And I hope I will never see the Clayton Allred "style" of spinning staff anymore in this life. And the song for Instruments of the Now makes me want to kill someone.



There.. I said it.. Pheewww..



Anyway..



Yeah..


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Posted:Originally posted by The Antti
I know nothing good will come out of this but let me b...h a bit more.. more or less seriously. I will never forgive Arsn for the sock poi kick up.


rolleyes, Seems like a bit of a wasted b#tch if you ask me... watch that part again, it was a stuff up that I just continued on with... but ofcourse you'd never know that prior to me saying so... rolleyes

I just want to say, that I respect your opinion, but would like to also say that I'm abit disappointed in the way that your choosing to void the rest of the set just by one move that, you, don't like at the begining... watch the rest, then tell me your thoughts... smile

What's wrong with poi kick ups anyway... did I miss the memo that they were out of fashion... I must have forgotten to leave a forwarding address... tongue


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sketch
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Posted:ok, im gonna have to go and watch it again.... i didnt even notice a kick up....... excellent set though, and i love the poi swap (where you dont actually let go).

Antti - youve managed to put into words, my opinion on 'proffessional videos'. the last col had more of the same. Great costumes, great locations, great coreography(sp?), but absolutely no spark. i think sometimes improv, or more personal choreographed sets are better to express yourself completely.......


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Antti_Everything
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Posted:My god.. have they been in fashion? wink I don't think I can give any useful real feedback on your vid. You're a good spinner for sure. I just don't get anything from a sockpoi parkspin video. And I guess I am too anti-sock. And you don't have to respect my opinions. You do your thing. I'm just btchng.

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Posted:Damn.. Now you made think about what I post here.. And I have to take back my comment about OWD. Or atleast explain myself if I talk trash..

I like the vid. The mood and music is good and the birds and all. Locations are minimalistic but nice. I like the camera work except for the shot from behind the bush. A nice presentation of different equipment. You have a personal style of moving about but I personally don't really like it. That's what my comment was about.

And oh yeah.. Clare sucks wink


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_Clare_
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Posted:Whimper...



I feel my fragile ego shattering and breaking...



ubbcrying



'The' Antti... if you don't like my 3-minute video, I just don't think I'll ever be able to dance again....

















Muppet.

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Posted:Join the club. I've never been able to dance.

You know I love it.


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_Clare_
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Posted:ubblol

Is that why you just stand there chucking a staff about?
Meh... what am I going to do?!

tee hee hee...

You can dance... you just need hip-wiggling practice smile
Rarr... you'd be even more hot...


Thanks... glad you liked x


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Posted:Clare you are such a groupie.

Antti, Its about time i kicked your ass...


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ma'tina
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Posted:thx my loverly......anttis can only feel antisympathy for (sock)poi ?!?.....we should have known earlier......why else did he get the name antti?????!!!.......but you cant get even more hot....and you dont need to......you burn down all the hearts of women already! wink
you know that i love you and your girl also.....so enjoy life again...... hug

take care,
tina


- Ho Sa -
kisses & peace & love to beautiful madges
*rever le temps le prendre*

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ma'tina
BRONZE Member since Mar 2005

ma'tina

multiplex
Location: somewhere...

Total posts: 611
Posted:wave ado



how are you honey....???????

hug will see maiuki and others in the next days....they all come to my place.......before heading to asia....and elsewhere......feel hugged hug

take care,

tina


- Ho Sa -
kisses & peace & love to beautiful madges
*rever le temps le prendre*

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