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MikeGinnyGOLD Member
HOP Mad Doctor
13,923 posts
Location: San Francisco, CA, USA


Posted:
So, as has been pointed out in the "Is it quieter around here lately?" the boards are kinda dead.

Things really started to turn quiet around April/May of this year and I figured it was just part of the normal cycles that we see here of flurries of activity and then periods of less activity.

It's November and the trend continues. In Social Chat, only six posts were made over a period of four days. I haven't been posting much lately because there haven't been posts to respond to. In seven years as a HoP member, I have never seen anything like it.

Even worse, Josh and Kate were going to have a mini-Doof tomorrow night at their place in my honor and it appears that very few people will be coming. This disappoints me. It means that our community is collapsing and I can't figure out why this is happening.

But more important than the discussion of why is how to fix it. This community was an amazing, active, warm, loving family consisting of tens of thousands of spinners all over the world. I don't think the blame can be placed in the hands of any individual.

Did the community move to Facebook? If so, can we use that to our advantage? Is there something that we can do to make this forum more conducive to gatherings and socialization?

What are your ideas?

And please, if you know someone who has gone silent, encourage them to come back.

-Mike

Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella



A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura


T-S-ASILVER Member
Magic Monkey Juice
252 posts
Location: Saaf Ingerland Innet, England (UK)


Posted:
I am new here after a friend recomended I join, and I intend on staying for a while.... But I didn't want to come on here and start flooding the forums with babble no one cares about... Not yet anyhow wink. Hopefully I can help in not letting the forum die smile

Seems like a nice little community though smile

"We were making castles in the sand: Now we swim in the seas that swept them away"


MMaeGOLD Member
stranger
3 posts
Location: Canada


Posted:
I am also new. I don't post much, I'm much more of a real life socializer, but from what I have perused and skimmed of the boards everyone seems very buoyant and charasmatic and just straight up funny. The silly little comments crack me up. So I like Home of Poi boards over rednecks because people are easy going and humourous from what I can tell.

FelexSILVER Member
Destroyer of worlds and ooo shiny.
268 posts
Location: In my own head, United Kingdom


Posted:
I for one would rather read a informed opinion over what someone had for breakfast any day, and if people post for the sake of it thats what we will end up with.

Toast and a giant glass or orange juice if your interested.

T-S-ASILVER Member
Magic Monkey Juice
252 posts
Location: Saaf Ingerland Innet, England (UK)


Posted:
Originally Posted By: FelexI for one would rather read a informed opinion over what someone had for breakfast any day, and if people post for the sake of it thats what we will end up with.

Toast and a giant glass or orange juice if your interested.


Pizza and tea grin

Will try to post educated, informed and usefull posts... No promises though wink

"We were making castles in the sand: Now we swim in the seas that swept them away"


MynciBRONZE Member
Macaque of all trades
8,738 posts
Location: wombling free..., United Kingdom


Posted:
I Just stopped posting in Social chat because I'm not chatty... and I'm not social wink

I do wonder if there was a competition for active posters if that may get more action or if it would fill the board up with spam. I look at the competitions etc, every now and then, but I've eased back my younger competetive edge so generally just peruse the forums.

A couple of balls short of a full cascade... or maybe a few cards short of a deck... we'll see how this all fans out.


FireTomStargazer
6,650 posts

Posted:
is it about postwhoring? I don't think so.

is it about your brekfast? maybe - and if so, then it's because by telling us that you just had cinnamon porridge with cherries (yum, thank you Kyle) it tells us that you do love life in your own way and that you care letting us know about it.

If you tell us that you love guns, I for my part will not side it - but this wouldn't stop me from helping you out, lending you a shoulder if you're feeling down.

I've been the most unchatty person on this board and you only found me in SD, where I might (unintentionally) have offended pretty much every body that didn't agree with what I felt to be "right". And sometimes even those who did agree.

But for me it's really coming to the point of 'understanding'. Not about latent softness (where it's inapropriate) but about learning who you are and - surprisingly - this board helped me to shape my opinions. (Still working on how to get them across tho') wink I for my part like to know what you're thinking - if you keep it under 500 letters that is...

Life's an oyster - so come to claim your pearl grouphug

the best smiles are the ones you lead to wink


MynciBRONZE Member
Macaque of all trades
8,738 posts
Location: wombling free..., United Kingdom


Posted:
I think of life like an onion pick the analogy that fits you best wink

1) Lots of layers
2) Get it wrong and you'll cry.
3) smells a bit funny
4) Comes from and returns to the earth
5) hangs around in groups at the shops
6) never rolls smoothly
7) made this up as I went along
8) will get back on topic.

I don't think it's about postwhoring. I think maybe a competition for the most useful/insightful new thread each month, may make people try a bit harder at their toys and come up with some intersting stuff. Push the boundaries a little. It' doesn't even need a tangible prize. Just the title "june winner of best thread" woould go in my signature laugh3 (but I'd celebrate any title I got)
If it helps I do point everyone I teach at workshops who shows interest towards Home of Poi (and Southern Lights of course lol) I wonder how many (if any) I have pointed here have become members who are active I don't really mention my hop name in company much apart from with a few Hoppers I befriended when I joined.
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A couple of balls short of a full cascade... or maybe a few cards short of a deck... we'll see how this all fans out.


SeyeSILVER Member
Geek
1,261 posts
Location: Manchester, UK


Posted:
Originally Posted By: Mynci...I've eased back my younger competetive edge so generally just peruse the forums.

Originally Posted By: MynciI think maybe a competition for the most useful/insightful new thread each month, may make people try a bit harder at their toys and come up with some intersting stuff. Push the boundaries a little. It' doesn't even need a tangible prize. Just the title "june winner of best thread" woould go in my signature laugh3 (but I'd celebrate any title I got)

Not cured quite yet then wink

MynciBRONZE Member
Macaque of all trades
8,738 posts
Location: wombling free..., United Kingdom


Posted:
never mate laugh3 I like prizes grin

A couple of balls short of a full cascade... or maybe a few cards short of a deck... we'll see how this all fans out.


Sir Nuggit IIThe sequel
26 posts
Location: South London


Posted:
Originally Posted By: Flyntbut... People. Move. On.
xoxox hug

I [semi] agree with your point about poi being a "fad". I first picked up poi near on 5 years ago now and I used to do it every weekend. I then found this notice board and became a "frequent flyer" until a second job took over most of my spare time. I've still got my first ever poi, and I get them out every time I go on holiday for literally the entire time I'm away, despite being the only person with a set.

My point being, I now have several sets and I'm back in the realm of HoP so you might be able to take the spinner away from the poi but not the poi out of the spinner.

Forgive the bluntness, but if a community fails, its largely down to its members. To get back on track, effort from everyone who is remotely bothered is needed. Start with organising more meets. Back in the day there used to be loads of meetings!! With the recession kicking in, what better [and cheaper] way to spend an evening than in a park, spinning?

Pull out my pin, throw me in to a room and see what happens!


FireTomStargazer
6,650 posts

Posted:
what kinda annoys me a bit are those who wag, pee in the corner and never bother to stroll back to sniff their own mark.... wink

Sir I really agree with what you say - it's down to the members. And by that it really doesn't matter whether or not you're still spinning...

What I like(d) about this community is that I met so many ppl who had the same basic interest (poi) and expressed themselves here. It's fascinating to watch just HOW MANY different spinners are out there and how most of them have some common denominators:

- kindness
- respect
- intelligence and
- balls

old

the best smiles are the ones you lead to wink


FelexSILVER Member
Destroyer of worlds and ooo shiny.
268 posts
Location: In my own head, United Kingdom


Posted:
Originally Posted By: FireTomis it about postwhoring? I don't think so.

is it about your brekfast? maybe - and if so, then it's because by telling us that you just had cinnamon porridge with cherries (yum, thank you Kyle) it tells us that you do love life in your own way and that you care letting us know about it.



That works. Thus my opinions have shifted

house_of_millGOLD Member
old hand
896 posts
Location: Manchester England


Posted:
I've never noticed this before, mostly as I've been on 10 times maybe in the last 5 years. But at least I have seen people in the flesh in the last year, that has drawn me back.

*Thats one of my favourite Nurseries over there,*

Roman, Trippie Hippie,On the way back from Play Festival


GnorBRONZE Member
Carpal \'Tunnel
5,814 posts
Location: Perth, Australia


Posted:
Not being able to post photos and so no new ones is a drawback frown

Is it the Truth?
Is it Fair to all concerned?
Will it build Goodwill and Better Friendships?
Will it be Beneficial to all concerned?

Im in a lonely battle with the world with a fish to match the chip on my shoulder. Gnu in Binnu in a cnu


PK_BRONZE Member
Lambretta Fanatic
4,996 posts
Location: United Kingdom


Posted:
... eeeep.

PK.

"To be an angel, one need not have wings.
In giving love there is an equal grace.
Nor need one seek the aura in the face,
As love unveils the beauty of all things."

*Francois Couperin.


neonrazeSILVER Member
I don't do boredom.
20 posts
Location: Far North Queensland, Australia


Posted:
It's so quiet.

willworkforfoodjnrSILVER Member
Hunting robot foxes
1,046 posts
Location: Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, England (UK)


Posted:
Pardon?

Working hard to be a wandering hippie layabout. Ten years down, five to go!


Mr Majestikcoming to a country near you
45 posts
Location: home of the tiney toothy bear


Posted:
It's dead actually.

willworkforfoodjnrSILVER Member
Hunting robot foxes
1,046 posts
Location: Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, England (UK)


Posted:
Then talk to us smile

Working hard to be a wandering hippie layabout. Ten years down, five to go!


zeun4749stranger
1 post

Posted:
Did the community move to Facebook? If so, can we use that to our advantage? Is there something that we can do to make this forum more conducive to gatherings and socialization?

What are your ideas?

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Bender_the_OffenderGOLD Member
still can't believe it's not butter
6,979 posts
Location: Melbourne, Australia


Posted:
be the change you want to see.

Laugh Often, Smile Much, Post lolcats Always


shaping_lightSILVER Member
member
138 posts
Location: In a warm bed with me teddy!!, United Kingdom


Posted:
This will always be the home of poi though smile

Fun is not a straight line <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


ChronosHow is it that one careless match can start a forest fire, but it takes a whole box to start a campfire?
20 posts
Location: Spain (for now)


Posted:
ive been messaging a quite a few people on here that say they do firestaff, but no replies frown isanyonehere?

willworkforfoodjnrSILVER Member
Hunting robot foxes
1,046 posts
Location: Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, England (UK)


Posted:
I do staff, what do you want to know? smile

Working hard to be a wandering hippie layabout. Ten years down, five to go!


MynciBRONZE Member
Macaque of all trades
8,738 posts
Location: wombling free..., United Kingdom


Posted:
:ditto:

A couple of balls short of a full cascade... or maybe a few cards short of a deck... we'll see how this all fans out.


ChronosHow is it that one careless match can start a forest fire, but it takes a whole box to start a campfire?
20 posts
Location: Spain (for now)


Posted:
How do I burn down a whole town using half a litre of paraffin?
Also, my staff is about 87cm long because its supposed to represent a samoan fireknife. How difficult would it be to convert to using a long staff? baring in mind that half of my moves are throws, and the other half are fail.

beaniebobGOLD Member
casually noob tech poi spinrar
155 posts
Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia


Posted:
Wait until there's a drought order around, and maximum fire warning. Head to nearby completely dry forest and start there.

Alternatively substitute forest with a volatile chemical factory.

Have fun! (in jail)

"If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error."


willworkforfoodjnrSILVER Member
Hunting robot foxes
1,046 posts
Location: Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, England (UK)


Posted:
I think that moving to a different length staff will be more or less difficult based on the weight of your new one and the weight of the existing one. I'd imagine your current staff is very light, so you may not have really found the 'flow', where you move with the staffs own momentum too much yet. You'll pick this up pretty quickly though.

I'd advise not going straight to a 150cm contact staff, as the weight will be enough that its possible to pull muscles etc if you're not used to it!

For throws, the length will make behind the back throw/catches harder.

A longer staff allows you to have larger wicks and bigger flames, but you'll have more difficulty with doubles and juggling.

My advice would be to get a 130cm-ish standard fire staff, give it a few weeks and then decide if you want to go longer and heavier for contact, or shorter and lighter for doubles/throws smile

Working hard to be a wandering hippie layabout. Ten years down, five to go!


Bender_the_OffenderGOLD Member
still can't believe it's not butter
6,979 posts
Location: Melbourne, Australia


Posted:
As i understand it, fire knifes have a disproportionately large wick on the 'knife' end and a tiny hook at the smaller wick on the other end.

Laugh Often, Smile Much, Post lolcats Always


ChronosHow is it that one careless match can start a forest fire, but it takes a whole box to start a campfire?
20 posts
Location: Spain (for now)


Posted:
cheers for the inspiration beanie! keep your eye on itv news lol

willworkforfood actually my practice staffs are very heavy cause they are pickaxe handles with towels wrapped around them. my performing staff is a lot lighter and i use both to train with. The pickaxe handles are more to build muscle than anything, but everything I do on one I can do on the other... it just tends to hurt more and move a lot slower with the handles lol.




The idea I'm having is to get a 130cm pole, with a lot of wicking (maybe 3 65mm wicks spaced out on each side, the closest wicking towards the center of the staff being the same distance as it is on my fireknife staff). im just trying to find a way of doing the same stuff i do with a fireknife, but on a larger scale. I know I wont be able to go as fast, i just wanted to know if i can make such a thing.

and Bender, you're pretty much correct, although the hook is an integrated part of the knife, which is somewhat like a machete blade.

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