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MalcolmSAPPHIRE Member
HOP admin
1,060 posts
Location: New Zealand


Posted:
Dear all,



I have added a rating system (previously hidden)

So users who have over 50 posts themselves can rate a thread.



I ask that those people should visit threads that they think are informative or very informative and rate them highly. Best to highly rate the information page rather than a thread that has multiple links to other pages.



If you come across a thread that should be deleted please either click the notify moderator button for immediate removal or rate the thread as "bad" so it can be automatically removed by a program I will write later.



The rating selector can be found at the bottom of the page just below the "Extra information" area or just above the quick reply form.

Also in the "Extra information" box is printed the current rating of the page (the Average of everyones votes).



The following forums have been exclude from the rating system

"Social Chat" and "Introduction"

Deleting old "Social Chat" threads will also happen once they have not been replied to in a long time.



My next project is a change to the post new thread page.

Page one will ask for a title of their thread

Page two will search topics that have an informative or very informative rating which have a similar topic

then display those results

with suggestion for the user to first check those threads before continuing to make a new thread.

below that will be the usual post new thread forms etc



I will not implement for a while until there are enough ratings in the system.



Hope that all makes sense and thanks for all the help and suggestions in making HOP a better place.



Regards



Malcolm

May your balls always burn


NYCNYC
9,232 posts
Location: NYC, NY, USA


Posted:
Another random idea...

Have only a few people have access to the rating system.

I don't care if it's me and others or not me and others. There are plenty of people who's opinion I'd trust.

Maybe a "Moderator Approved!" stamp on the title... or "Durbs Recommended" or even a "Veteran's Suggested Thread"... whatever...

I think I'd feel comfortable rating the c*lored flames threads and the hula hooping threads whereas obviously someone else would cover the staff threads.

I'm all for anything which helps but doesn't make more work for the mods.

Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]


colemanSILVER Member
big and good and broken
7,330 posts
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay, United Kingdom


Posted:
could work nyc but i think once the ratings have been around for a while, they will work, even with everyone having the ability to rate threads.

i think the issue you raised is where the sticky threads could come into their own - threads compiled by people who spend lots of time in a particular forum and know where the really useful nuggets of information are.


cole. x

[disclaimer: if any of this reads like i do not appreciate mods or that i am suggesting that they do more work, please ask for clarification - this is not what i intended to express in this post]

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i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
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flash fireBRONZE Member
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Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia


Posted:
Written by: coleman



[disclaimer: if any of this reads like i do not appreciate mods or that i am suggesting that they do more work, please ask for clarification - this is not what i intended to express in this post]




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faery emBRONZE Member
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259 posts
Location: London, United Kingdom


Posted:
unfortunately appreciation is one of those things that nobody mentions

people complain about things if they are displeased but they rarely notice, or they presume it normal when they are pleased

as a mod (or any similar position) i guess you have to realise the proportion of people who complain compared to the proportion of people who don't complain in order to realise that you are appreciated - this is not always easy

i guess what i meant to say is i appreciate all the work done on this site, and the continuing effort made to change for the better as time passes.

warp children still smile the same

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_pOp_BRONZE Member
Playing OldSchool Poi
593 posts
Location: amsterdam, Netherlands


Posted:
so if old, useless, chatty, double and bad threads get deleted, does that effect the post-count of us users and will Cantus' post-count then suddenly drop from over 10.000 to only half of that? umm

meditate eRic.

I'm not normally a religious man, but if you're up there, save me, Superman!


DomBRONZE Member
Carpal \'Tunnel
3,009 posts
Location: Bristol, UK


Posted:
Don't worry, post count isn't affected by deleting posts or threads - it's a number stored separately from all that.

robertsBRONZE Member
Member
91 posts
Location: knoxville, tennessee, usa


Posted:
heres my 2 cents. i love the idea of thread rating. i wish when i started spinning i could have gone directly to the threads pertaining to my intrests that were rated high by more experianced users. i would however, like to be able to defer rating a thread before i post on that thread. sometimes i forget to rate the thread and type a message. then i submit and rate the thread ok, when i would have liked to rate it something else. in the end i have to retype my message. there are also times when im not sure which way a new thread will go but if i want to post on it i feel im forced to rate it prematurly. i dont want this coment to be taken as a complaint but as a piece of constructive critisism. thank you all for contiually improving the site and working so hard to make it user friendly.

if anyone orders Merlot, i'm leaving.


NYCNYC
9,232 posts
Location: NYC, NY, USA


Posted:
What about a 'please do a search' smiley?

biggrin

Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]


MikeGinnyGOLD Member
HOP Mad Doctor
13,923 posts
Location: San Francisco, CA, USA


Posted:
Written by: NYC


What about a 'please do a search' smiley?

biggrin




It should look like Durbs. biggrin

-Mike

Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella



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pricklyleafSILVER Member
with added berries
1,365 posts
Location: Manchester, England (UK)


Posted:
What about a rating that could be repeat post/post in wrong place or something?

and a do a search smiley would be cool biggrin

Plus then you could make 3 new smileys too so you've got a full line in the window wink

Live like there is no tomorrow,
dance like nobody is watching
and hula hoop like wiggling will save the world.

What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us.

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Bubbles_SILVER Member
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3,384 posts
Location: mancunian, United Kingdom


Posted:
fantasic! took me a few minutes to realise (and knowing me its been like this for a while) but youve changed the ratings again.
i think this is excellent considering the social chat cant really be classed as 'informative' etc

just thought id let you know smile

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Virginity like bubble,one prick all gone.


MalcolmSAPPHIRE Member
HOP admin
1,060 posts
Location: New Zealand


Posted:
Done some changes to the Search function on the site. Should hopefully provide better results. If a thread has a good rating it will be listed first.

May your balls always burn


UCOFSILVER Member
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Location: United Kingdom


Posted:
bounce

kiss hug

Thank yoooooou!

flidBRONZE Member
Carpal \'Tunnel
3,136 posts
Location: Warwickshire, United Kingdom


Posted:
now you can't order search results ubbcrying

MalcolmSAPPHIRE Member
HOP admin
1,060 posts
Location: New Zealand


Posted:
as far as I know there was never a function to order search results.

May your balls always burn


DurbsBRONZE Member
Classically British
5,688 posts
Location: Epsom, Surrey, England


Posted:
Written by: Doc Lightning


Written by: NYC


What about a 'please do a search' smiley?

biggrin




It should look like Durbs. biggrin




Ah - but then people would purposefully not search just to see my beautiful face... wink

*sigh*
It's a hard life being a demi-god ubblol

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Spinner of poi
Slacker of enormous magnitude


animatEdBRONZE Member
1 + 1 = 3
3,540 posts
Location: Bristol UK


Posted:
Um, The 'do a search' Smiley is a great idea...

It would people like me, durbs and Ucof (to name but a few) getting misinterpretted as being a bit rude and abrupt...

Empty your mind. Be formless, Shapeless, like Water.
Put Water into a cup, it becomes the cup, put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, put water into a teapot, it becomes the teapot.
Water can flow, or it can Crash.
Be Water My Friend.


RustoBRONZE Member
member
47 posts
Location: Gold Coast, Qld, Australia


Posted:
As a newbe who knows absolutely nothing about anything confused2 your site kicks butt biggrin glad to be on board, well done to all the people who put this all together, now wheres that complaint button wink

Crime does not pay ... as well as politics.
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UCOFSILVER Member
Carpal \'Tunnel
15,414 posts
Location: United Kingdom


Posted:
its that exclaimation mark in the triangle, in the middle of the 5 icons at the bottom of this post. smile

colemanSILVER Member
big and good and broken
7,330 posts
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay, United Kingdom


Posted:
i mentioned this in another thread but thought i'd post it here:

the ratings seem to have disappeared...

threads i've rated in the past are unrated again and the search doesn't push highly rated threads to the top any more...?


cole. x

"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood


MalcolmSAPPHIRE Member
HOP admin
1,060 posts
Location: New Zealand


Posted:
Dear all,

The "Search before posting a new topic" is now currently working. However it
only lists the top 10 most related topics.
Threads that are rated highly by users are given a higher ranking in search
results if they share the same keywords.

How it "works"
It would have been too much of a drain on the server to search via mysql so
we have created a special compressed flat text file database about 23Mb and
search using a super fast perl search engine tool.
I will get a cron job to update the flat file on a daily basis.

Cheers

Malcolm

May your balls always burn


UCOFSILVER Member
Carpal \'Tunnel
15,414 posts
Location: United Kingdom


Posted:
Do you have any idea how awesome you are?

kiss hug2

Thank you!

flash fireBRONZE Member
Sporadically Prodigal
2,758 posts
Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia


Posted:
Malcolm - did I ever tell you that I love you?

ubblove

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BirgitBRONZE Member
had her carpal tunnel surgery already thanks v much
4,145 posts
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland (UK)


Posted:
I had an idea.

It's probably old and not very good but I like it, so I'll post it.

How about something like an "index" page, that lists maybe 100 or so of the most-used searches, double-posts and unnecessary threads (so... incorporating some nonsense threads, stuff about coloured flames, wirewool and how to build toys, beginners moves, isolations and all that) and links to either threads or a search page for the subject?

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Mr_ChutneySILVER Member
Tosser
1,712 posts
Location: Herefordshire, England (UK)


Posted:
Glad to see the new search prior to new topic stuff implemented biggrin

Out of total self interested smuggery: was that a result of my recent suggestion?

SymBRONZE Member
Geek-enviro-hippy priest
1,858 posts
Location: Diss, Norfolk, United Kingdom


Posted:
I think thats a great idea, but after running some tests I just found a load of old posts where people just said 'do a search'.

I think everyone to reply to any future thread like that should do the search and post a link, so as to help people following the post > search > read path.

There's too many home fires burning and not enough trees


Mr_ChutneySILVER Member
Tosser
1,712 posts
Location: Herefordshire, England (UK)


Posted:
I think that there's also the issue that with this new facility we can finally expect to see threads shouting "do a search" to be deleted- every new topic will now have already performed a search, and after a little while the pressure will shift on to members clearly titling their posts.

linden rathenGOLD Member
Carpal \'Tunnel
6,942 posts
Location: London, UK


Posted:
go malcolm biggrin

really likeing the search for similar function that seems to have appeared next to the page numbers as well smile pretty slick me thinks biggrin

back


colemanSILVER Member
big and good and broken
7,330 posts
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay, United Kingdom


Posted:
Written by: Malcolm


Dear all,

The "Search before posting a new topic" is now currently working.




i only just found out that this feature has been added - it is a superb addition malcolm, thank-you so much! biggrin hug2

and the thread ratings (or at least some of them) appear to be working again now.

i think it goes without saying but:

i ubblove HOP


cole. x

"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood


The...JokerMember
91 posts
Location: Bristol


Posted:
Dear Mr Malcolm

I may just be being a nervous nelly Mr Malcolm, but if you had a 'bad' option to the rating system that automatically deletes a post what's to stop someone from going around deleting the said posts for the 'fun' of it?

Regards, Mr Joker

never ever EVER, poke me with that thing.

just my little joke. As always.


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