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onewheeldave
GOLD Member since Aug 2002

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: sheffield, United Kingdom

Total posts: 3252
Posted:
It seems that a thread has dissapeared, the one about the avatar with the swastica on it and whether it was offensive.

Presumably it got out of hand and was deleted?

A shame as it had some interesting points on it.

It occurred to me that maybe it would be good, when a thread is deleted, for some kind of message to be left in it's place saying why exactly it has been taken down.

This would serve both to soften the blow for those who put effort into contributing to the deleted thread, and make more clear to board users exactly what is, and what isn't, acceptable to post.


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But you can make the Bastard work for it."

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flash fire
BRONZE Member since Jan 2001

flash fire

Sporadically Prodigal
Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia

Total posts: 2758
Posted:I agree OWD. The topic starter actually requested Malcolm to delete the thread, and he did.

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Malcolm
SAPPHIRE Member since Nov 2003

Malcolm

HOP admin
Location: New Zealand

Total posts: 1023
Posted:Good suggestion smile
I have put a post up with reason.

Cheers

Malcolm


May your balls always burn

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Medusa
BRONZE Member since Nov 2003

Medusa

veteran
Location: 8 days at Cloudbreak, 6 in Per...

Total posts: 1433
Posted:I don't get why someone would ask a question and then request for it to be deleted.

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Doc Lightning
GOLD Member since May 2001

Doc Lightning

HOP Mad Doctor
Location: San Francisco, CA, USA

Total posts: 13920
Posted:I did it once because I had caused undue controversy in the community.

I believe the poster of that thread (nobly) did the same thing.


-Mike )'(
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_Clare_
BRONZE Member since Oct 2002

_Clare_

Still wiggling
Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland (UK)

Total posts: 5967
Posted:Hello and morning everyone,

I didn't realise there was anything that offensive on that thread. Certainly it touched on sensitive issues, but surely it is important that such issues are discussed and not ignored? Maybe it got really out of hand after I went to bed last night?!

Anyways, I understand why Malcolm took such action if it was requested directly.
Tis just a pity.


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nearly_all_gone
SILVER Member since Aug 2004

nearly_all_gone

Pooh-Bah
Location: Southampton, United Kingdom

Total posts: 1626
Posted:I hope my comments didn't offend anyone. I felt it was an interesting discussion arising from a negative situation, which has got to be a good thing.



I totally agree that it's a great idea for deleted or locked threads to have a reason posted - even if only that we don't encroach on sensitive issues that are likely to stop discussion mid-flow again.


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UCOF
SILVER Member since Apr 2002

UCOF

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: , United Kingdom

Total posts: 15414
Posted:It also contained my only serious post for this, and next years quota.

rolleyes

Even if i did get a little confused..


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Denny


Denny

Here again gone again
Location: Central London

Total posts: 157
Posted:Yeah, I thought it was one of the most civilised discussions of the swastika issue that I've seen online for a while (this comes up regularly on fetish club boards, and usually is a lot more heated and less open to reason). The original post was a bit puerile, but the ensuing discussion was quite interesting.

"Talk hard"

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onewheeldave
GOLD Member since Aug 2002

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: sheffield, United Kingdom

Total posts: 3252
Posted:I think it's one of the strengths of HOP social board that controversial topics do get discussed calmly and rationaly, in a way that doesn't happen on a lot of other forums.



Obviously there's been many occasions when threads have got out of hand on HOP, and action has been required (deleting threads, even a few bans).



But there's a pattern of them being dealt with effectively by a good mod team, then the same issues coming up but not getting out of hand.



It may take a few phases for that to happen, and obviously requires work both from the mods and board members (who have to take the suggestions on board and become more self moderating) but I think it's much better than the alternative of just banning the subject outright, as these disussions are one of the aspects that makes HOP one of the community boards that it's worth while being a member of.



A good example is the subject of religion which, at one point, was guaranteed to result in mayhem, but, over the past few months there's been some decent and non-hostile threads on the subject.



Written by: Denny


Yeah, I thought it was one of the most civilised discussions of the swastika issue that I've seen online for a while (this comes up regularly on fetish club boards, and usually is a lot more heated and less open to reason). The original post was a bit puerile, but the ensuing discussion was quite interesting.





I also miss the thread in question, despite it's dodgy start, it was turning into an interesting discussion.



Would it be possible to resurrect it, minus the original posters posts (as they requested the deletion), retitle it 'Swastica discussion' and insert a brief intro explaining the changes?



Or maybe make it breifly availabe as 'view only' so those interested can copy and paste their posts, and then we can put up a new thread on the subject using those posts.



After all-



Written by: Unsaturated Carpets Of Freedom


It also contained my only serious post for this, and next years quota.









Can we really afford to just cast that away? smile


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_Clare_
BRONZE Member since Oct 2002

_Clare_

Still wiggling
Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland (UK)

Total posts: 5967
Posted:Lol, well said Dave.

And you just can't throw away Jon's post like that. It was obvious he put a great deal of time and thought into that ubblol

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NYC


NYC

NYC
Location: NYC, NY, USA

Total posts: 9232
Posted:I do agree that HoP is such a lovely and warm place because the mods work so hard. I'm personally thankful that HoP is well moderated. It's one of the reasons I stuck around for so long. ubblove

Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]

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Doc Lightning
GOLD Member since May 2001

Doc Lightning

HOP Mad Doctor
Location: San Francisco, CA, USA

Total posts: 13920
Posted:NYC, there's some brown on your nose there. Go and wipe it off. wink

-Mike )'(
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella

"A buckuht 'n a hooze!" -Valura

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NYC


NYC

NYC
Location: NYC, NY, USA

Total posts: 9232
Posted:Don't get me wrong, I dispise them as people. But think they're doing a good job keeping smut from off my computer screen.

Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]

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_Clare_
BRONZE Member since Oct 2002

_Clare_

Still wiggling
Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland (UK)

Total posts: 5967
Posted:ubblol

so cruel


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flash fire
BRONZE Member since Jan 2001

flash fire

Sporadically Prodigal
Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia

Total posts: 2758
Posted:Written by: NYC

Don't get me wrong, I dispise them as people.



That's okay - the only reason we keep you around is so that we can talk about you behind your back and use you as an example of what not to do.


biggrin wink

OWD - I like your idea of resurrecting that thread, but it will be Malcolm's decision in this instance.


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NYC


NYC

NYC
Location: NYC, NY, USA

Total posts: 9232
Posted:Written by: flash fire

That's okay - the only reason we keep you around is so that we can talk about you behind your back and use you as an example of what not to do.




Homecoming dance is two weeks from tomorrow. frown


Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]

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flash fire
BRONZE Member since Jan 2001

flash fire

Sporadically Prodigal
Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia

Total posts: 2758
Posted:You should have thought about that before you publicly announced that you despise me. Shouldn't you have? Hmm?



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Cantus
SILVER Member since Jul 2001

Cantus

Tantamount to fatuity
Location: Down the road, United Kingdom

Total posts: 15965
Posted:I have a space in my diary then biggrin

*looks hopeful*


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bairie fen


lord high king of swingers *(now defunct)**(but will rise again ! !)*
Location: wild wiltshire

Total posts: 165
Posted:From the original poster !!!!
The thread was requested to be deleted because it had gotten out of hand, what was intended as a thread to look at our attachment to symbols and there use (albeit dodgily presented\worded, soz i'm not the brightest button in the box)
and not as a statement by myself of hatred or racism, which it was starting to be taken as.
All in all I was looking for reasonable debate, alll in all I got bashed ! However I am very glad to see the discussion raging on.
all my love
ben
xxx


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ado-p
GOLD Member since May 2004

ado-p

Pirate Ninja
Location: Galway/Ireland

Total posts: 3882
Posted:nice one ben. smile

Love is the law.

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MiG
GOLD Member since Apr 2004

MiG

Self-Flagellation Expert
Location: Bogged at CG, Australia

Total posts: 3415
Posted:are there any other forum sitii in the world where postii degenerate so quickly into random smeg?

(that was sposed to go straight after c@ntus' post)


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Tao Star


Tao Star

Pooh-Bah
Location: Bristol

Total posts: 1662
Posted:oh, i'm sure some of them are much worse than here.

we're quite a nice bunch of people really biggrin


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bairie fen


lord high king of swingers *(now defunct)**(but will rise again ! !)*
Location: wild wiltshire

Total posts: 165
Posted:very lovely i have to agree tao star !

fly fairies, fly high, fly wide and take no prisoners !!!!!!

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Durbs
BRONZE Member since Sep 2001

Durbs

Classically British
Location: Epsom, Surrey, England

Total posts: 5688
Posted:Here's a thought on deleting posts.
Is it possible to actually remove them entirely from the board?
Case in point being the music threads... I tried a seach on "Copying Music Sharing" and it returns loads of results - about a third of which are **Deleted**. or locked But they aren't - they're still there, just locked, which is really annoying as it makes a search fruitless, Likewise a seach for "coloured flames" produces results all of which end with "Please do a search" and then it is locked. But if you search you just find lots of other threads all saying "Do a search" and being locked. Surely, if they were deleted it would make the search function much more useful...


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onewheeldave
GOLD Member since Aug 2002

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: sheffield, United Kingdom

Total posts: 3252
Posted:I just did a search on "Copying Music Sharing", but only got one result, which was this thread we're in now; so I'm not fully sure what the deleted threads in question are like.

Do they contain posts? If so then aren't they of value for information purposes.

I agree that if the threads contain no useful info (and it sounds like that's the case with the 'colored flames' ones), that they'd be better removed; I'm just concerned that some locked threads do have posts that people have put a lot of effort into, and it's always a shame when they get thrown away.


"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."

--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32


Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!

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Durbs
BRONZE Member since Sep 2001

Durbs

Classically British
Location: Epsom, Surrey, England

Total posts: 5688
Posted:Perhaps cos I created it after it's now 100% relevant - whereas before there was nothing so it guessed at near-matches...

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ado-p
GOLD Member since May 2004

ado-p

Pirate Ninja
Location: Galway/Ireland

Total posts: 3882
Posted:I just copied and pasted "Copying Music Sharing" and got 1115 results

Love is the law.

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GothFrogette
BRONZE Member since Oct 2004

GothFrogette

grumpy poorly froggy
Location: Nuneaton, United Kingdom

Total posts: 3999
Posted:ahhh so thats where it went, grrr was going to say that there was an article in either this or last months skin deep tattoo mag.

Life's too short to worry about where you put your marshmallows

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