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Running hippy spinning lemming
Location: Scotland
Member Since: 16th Jul 2004
Total posts: 15
Posted:recently got some fuel and started spinning with fire again smile but i feel so stuck with what i can do....

guess this is a similar (-ish) post to one by Telpeva Isil, except i'm moaning!

i have started learning more advanced stuff, but most of it seems to over my head... and i can only do the really basic stuff with fire... which drives me mad cos i know its not very good, i wanna be learning new things and getting better.... raaaa!!!!

i know, practise.... devil

Mmmmm.... can i nominate myself for the most boring and moany posts award? (sorry - its just me i guess!) tongue

Fear leads to anger; anger leads to hate; hate leads to suffering...


Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Berlin
Member Since: 25th Sep 2002
Total posts: 2617
Posted:Search for "the teaching thread (or the longest post ever)" in the help section. Sorry no time to search for you...

Try meeting other people.....helps lots too....try downloading video's they send subliminal messages that make you better automatically... gott run smile

I live in a world of infinite possibilities.

not with cactus
Location: bristol/ southern eastern devo...
Member Since: 24th Jul 2003
Total posts: 2052
Posted:dont feel you have to spin fire, but just spin poi of some sort all day long. 'the advanced stuff' will come to you and before you know it youll be doing it with fire.

and also i agree about the videos, mostly with fire its not the moves, its the flow, and the shapes you are making.

Me train running low on soul coal
They push+pull tactics are driving me loco
They shouldn't do that no no no

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: sheffield
Member Since: 28th Aug 2002
Total posts: 3252
Posted:oli's spot on- get to work with the non fire poi, that's were you learn the new stuff and improve.

You'll always be a bit behind with fire in contrast to what you can do unlit- that's the way it should be, the golden rule of safety is that you don't attempt any move with fire that you can't do 100% (preferably with eyes shut) without fire.

Of course, if you want to be really good at fire then, at some point you'll have to put in some quality burning time where you really solidify the stuff you've learnt unlit and get it working well lit.

But it sounds to me like you need to be focusing on the unlit stuff, learning and inventing new moves, and, just as important, linking them up in different ways; think of style, grace and new slants to the stuff you can already do.

Maybe you should also check my recent thread on slow spinning, here-


"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."

"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32

Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!


Running hippy spinning lemming
Location: Scotland
Member Since: 16th Jul 2004
Total posts: 15
Posted:awwww..... thank you!

hug2 hug2 hug2 hug2 hug2

Fear leads to anger; anger leads to hate; hate leads to suffering...

Mand's Girl....and The Not So Shy One
Location: Calgary, Alberta Canada
Member Since: 2nd Dec 2002
Total posts: 2723
Posted:Ditto what onewheeldave and oli said.

LotsandLots of non-flamey practice...get into a grove with your practice poi until it all becomes second nature.

When you can get flamey practice time in, the more the better, because you get comfortable with the flame...but when taking a move you can do with practice poi to fire, be sure you can do it without thinking about it..into and out of the move smoothly.

Solitude sometimes speaks to you, and you should listen.


old hand
Location: In a van
Member Since: 30th Jun 2003
Total posts: 1092
Posted:i somtimes spin blindfolded, its such a lovely experince!!

passing through, this world still lives.


playing the days away
Location: The Middle lands
Member Since: 19th Aug 2003
Total posts: 7263
Posted:How often do you practice? I do it everyday, but you'd have to be a super talent to get good, as in REALLY good, by just spinning alone. Vids are second best way to learn, meeting others is definately the best. Those little variations and actually being able to ask questions and get into the groove with people is amazing. Of the big meets this year the most popular words were "cool" "wow" and of course "look what I've just learned/found/can do".

Go meet folks, drive for hundreds of miles for a few hours spinning (yes I am sad enough for that) and you'll be inspired beyond your wildest imagination smile

Mostly, keep positive. If you can't met folks, practice what you do, infront of a mirror or big window. See what looks nice and what doesn't and try to make it more pleasing on the eye. Technique and flow is far far more important than tricks.


Let's relight this forum ubblove


Running hippy spinning lemming
Location: Scotland
Member Since: 16th Jul 2004
Total posts: 15
Posted:hey thanks... i think you just listed all the probs i've had... i havent met anyone yet, but am hoping to fix this soon,
i cant download videos to watch as i dont have my own computer and it never seems to work when i try on public computers... but i'm going to buy col 4 (and 5!) very very soon and watch them for some inspiration...
I have been practising a little bit everyday - but not enough, i'm getting better... slowing down my weaves has helped as i think i can isolate now, and i just learnt a butterfly airwrap... need to figure nice ways of linking everything, i dont like getting into a routine with my spinning... i need to find some new transitions so i can mix up the order a bit!
thanks for your help.... i really must get out and meet all you guys!
hug biggrin hug

Fear leads to anger; anger leads to hate; hate leads to suffering...

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