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flash fireBRONZE Member
Sporadically Prodigal
2,758 posts
Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia


Posted:
This space is for all those funksters busy improving their technique by learning new moves - made-up or traditional.



Tell us all about it! We love hearing about our fellow poiers/staffies/misc. toyers succeeding with new things biggrin

It's just hard to keep up with it all sometimes, so if we keep it together you'll be certain to get a little feedback.



here a pat on the back in advance from me



::flash enthusiastically pats your back::



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SpinnerofDetroitGOLD Member
All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
2,280 posts
Location: Trenton, MI, USA


Posted:
Zan's Diamond makes me happy smile

The only luck is bad luck.

Shut up before I stall my poi up your ass grin


a2m8BRONZE Member
stranger
3 posts
Location: Pekin, IL, USA


Posted:
I've been spinning for a couple of months and have down the basics. I am now trying to do the behind the back weave,which i find difficult bc u can't see behind ur back...lol

Sister ElevenGOLD Member
owner of the group property
1,277 posts
Location: Seattle, WA, USA


Posted:
Do not try to see behind your back. Instead, try only to realize the truth: you have no back... Wait, that isn't right. Instead, try to realize that it's a really annoying move to learn and refuse to let it get the better of you tongue2

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astonSILVER Member
Unofficial Chairperson of Squirrel Defense League
4,061 posts
Location: South Africa


Posted:
Mirrors can help some.

'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland


SpinnerofDetroitGOLD Member
All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
2,280 posts
Location: Trenton, MI, USA


Posted:
I am on my way to anti-anti-spin

The only luck is bad luck.

Shut up before I stall my poi up your ass grin


hamuffakaSILVER Member
stranger
1 post
Location: Victoria Australia


Posted:
just got down with a btb reverse 3 beat weave.. now if i could only do it forwards. smile

astonSILVER Member
Unofficial Chairperson of Squirrel Defense League
4,061 posts
Location: South Africa


Posted:
Originally Posted By: SpinnerofDetroitI am on my way to anti-anti-spin

Describe?

edit: 3 centre stuff?
EDITED_BY: aston (1283552941)

'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland


SpinnerofDetroitGOLD Member
All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
2,280 posts
Location: Trenton, MI, USA


Posted:
That anti-anti-spin thing you see Mel doing in the Red Pant's video.

The only luck is bad luck.

Shut up before I stall my poi up your ass grin


astonSILVER Member
Unofficial Chairperson of Squirrel Defense League
4,061 posts
Location: South Africa


Posted:
Time? Have not really looked at every move in there yet.

'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland


SpinnerofDetroitGOLD Member
All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
2,280 posts
Location: Trenton, MI, USA


Posted:
6:30

The only luck is bad luck.

Shut up before I stall my poi up your ass grin


RivesGOLD Member
Nothing but circles and smiles...
118 posts
Location: Tampa, FL USA


Posted:
anti-spin Zan's diamond.

SpinnerofDetroitGOLD Member
All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
2,280 posts
Location: Trenton, MI, USA


Posted:
I thought it was always done in butterfly?

The only luck is bad luck.

Shut up before I stall my poi up your ass grin


MidkiffBRONZE Member
shadow stranger
462 posts
Location: Carmi, Illinois, USA


Posted:
i can spiral wrap orbital now!!!

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able, and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" - Epicurus


SpinnerofDetroitGOLD Member
All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
2,280 posts
Location: Trenton, MI, USA


Posted:
Huh? What's a spiral wrap orbital? This sounds interesting o0

The only luck is bad luck.

Shut up before I stall my poi up your ass grin


MidkiffBRONZE Member
shadow stranger
462 posts
Location: Carmi, Illinois, USA


Posted:
well its actually a shotgun hyper wrap with a turn at the end as to end up in a orbital i plan on making a vid tonight for all to see

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able, and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" - Epicurus


SpinnerofDetroitGOLD Member
All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
2,280 posts
Location: Trenton, MI, USA


Posted:
What is a hyper-wrap? Stop pulling these terms out of nowhere tongue2

The only luck is bad luck.

Shut up before I stall my poi up your ass grin


MidkiffBRONZE Member
shadow stranger
462 posts
Location: Carmi, Illinois, USA


Posted:
ok goto learn and in the wraps section of poi look up hyper wrap its almost like an airwrap that is a shotgun spiral wrap because you push your hand through it and then upon exiting the move you turn to the side and come out in a orbital

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able, and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" - Epicurus


SpinnerofDetroitGOLD Member
All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
2,280 posts
Location: Trenton, MI, USA


Posted:
Ok now this sounds like something I MUST LEARN NOW!

Ok that was not as exiting as I thought it would be laugh3 But still another cool trick.
EDITED_BY: SpinnerofDetroit (1283995958)

The only luck is bad luck.

Shut up before I stall my poi up your ass grin


Sister ElevenGOLD Member
owner of the group property
1,277 posts
Location: Seattle, WA, USA


Posted:
I just learned this totally delicious split time butterfly reel turn. So simple, so elegant, and I'm going to be doing it the whole spin jam today.

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brenonfire413SILVER Member
Fire Spinner Exarch
514 posts
Location: New Orleans, LA United States, USA


Posted:
For some weird reason I have stopped being unsuccessful in my attempts at orbitals: a large percentage are actually wrapping and unwinding perfectly, or at least better. So if I have failed at failing orbitals, have I succeeded or is this in fact a larger failure?

"Are you sure it's safe to drink bleach?"
"Yes, bleach is 90% water, we are 90% water, therefore: we are bleach."
-Nathan Explosion, Metalocalypse


Sister ElevenGOLD Member
owner of the group property
1,277 posts
Location: Seattle, WA, USA


Posted:
A lot of really good spinners fail to get out of orbitals, so that probably means you're getting worse. Sorry to bear the bad news! tongue2

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SpinnerofDetroitGOLD Member
All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
2,280 posts
Location: Trenton, MI, USA


Posted:
I fail at getting out of orbitals! Woohoo! Does this mean I'm good now? tongue2

The only luck is bad luck.

Shut up before I stall my poi up your ass grin


astonSILVER Member
Unofficial Chairperson of Squirrel Defense League
4,061 posts
Location: South Africa


Posted:
I have not even bothered learning them, so technically cannot get out of them either. tongue2

'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland


MidkiffBRONZE Member
shadow stranger
462 posts
Location: Carmi, Illinois, USA


Posted:
i am just now learning how to get out o orbitals its a very tricky thing but the easiest way i have found so far is turn to where its on the wall plane and treat it like a air wrap

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able, and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" - Epicurus


Smurf24029GOLD Member
Poi Master Smurf
343 posts
Location: Tacoma, Washington, USA


Posted:
Took me forever to get anywhere with releasing orbitals. After seeing Nick Woosley do it a long time ago I had to learn. Nowadays I get it probably 75% of the time. Takes some focus and time thats for sure. Still screw it up though, its just something you can't get every time.

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Spin Hard
Don't Stop


SpinnerofDetroitGOLD Member
All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
2,280 posts
Location: Trenton, MI, USA


Posted:
Yeah it's kind of a luck thing considering that if it's dark and it's chain and you can't see it well or if it's just dark out and you can't see your cord. You have a 50% chance of getting out flawlessly or making a tangled mess. I tend to get the tangle mess pretty much half the time.

The only luck is bad luck.

Shut up before I stall my poi up your ass grin


Smurf24029GOLD Member
Poi Master Smurf
343 posts
Location: Tacoma, Washington, USA


Posted:
I go with how it feels, and hope I'm right. Works nicely when I need it to

Fly High
Spin Hard
Don't Stop


Mother_Natures_SonSILVER Member
Rampant whirler.
2,418 posts
Location: Geelong, Victoria, Australia!


Posted:
Yeah, I can do it in pitch dark, I tend to be able to feel where it is much better than I can see it.

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TABjugglerSILVER Member
newbie
26 posts
Location: Orlando, FL, USA


Posted:
I have been learning so many new moves lately, but I'll start from the beginning.

I got into poi because I wanted to do fire poi. I am very comfortable with fire and have a lot of fun with it. Because of my comfort level, it is very easy to transfer new moves to fire very quickly. I've been spinning fire for 4 or 5 years now, but I never did much complicated stuff.

In fact for a very long time, I could do a forwards 5b weave, but still couldn't even do a backwards 3b.

I think my move list for a long time was:

forward 3b weave (I am very comfortable with this move and I bring it all over the place.... around my sides, low, over my head while bending backwards, kneeling down, laying down, etc)
forward 5b weave
butterflies (both directions)
forward thread the needle
corkscrew
Then a series of body wraps that I quite enjoy doing. (this was almost entirely my focus while spinning for a long time. Let me try to list them all: around my thighs (both directions), corkscrews to torso wraps, leg wraps, around my arm wraps, shoulder wraps, arm wraps, corkscrew to individual leg wraps, and all kinds of transitions to and from these wraps while doing the above list.... this is the kinda of fire spinning that I absolutely love).

I'm pretty sure that that set of moves was the entirety of what I could do with my fire poi.

Then I restarted the juggling club at my university and met two great poi spinners/teachers.

Through there help I have recently learned:

Backwards 3b weave
Backwards thread the needle
Doing a 3b weave (both directions) while occasionally throwing the right poi in the air (I have done this on fire and I don't use a counter weight)
Rope Dart style under the leg moves.
My friend calls the move "the atom"
Butterflies over my head
Thread the needle over my head

Things that I "sorta" have down, but don't have perfectly to infinite muscle memory yet, but I would still say I "have them"

A lot of stuff with stalls as direction changes.
Reels (all kinds, but I can't seem to remember how to do all of them, so it needs a lot more work)
Windmill (I can do it occasionally, but I can't quite seem to work it into the fountain yet).
Fountain (if I can just sort out my windmill problem, I should have this down)
Wheel Plane Flowers (3 and 4 petal ones) - These need a lot of work, but I have the basic idea down now.
Pendulums (need tons of work, but I have the idea down)
Neck Wraps (very similar to rope dart neck wraps, but they are much more difficult with the shorter poi)
I guess I should include buzz saw here as I have learned how to do it, but I am not comfortable with it yet.
Corkscrew with one poi going under both legs as I spin in the direction the poi is spinning.

Now this brings me to now and my reason for looking for this thread to post in.

I thought I was very far away from btb weaves, but my friend/teacher told me a great exercise for getting comfortable with accessing my wheel planes while my hands are behind me. I started playing around with those 3 days ago and have worked on it a bit each day since.

Tonight I went outside for an hour and planned to just get btb weaves down. I think it took me about 45 minutes, but I can say that I have reverse btb 3b weave down almost perfectly now. With another 40 minute session I think I can get the other direction down.

Once I finished that I worked on my windmill, fountain, crossers, under the legs, btb crossers, and some butterfly stuff.

I now also have solid:
Btb Butterflies (well technically they are behind my head), some thread the needle transfers with occasional movements behind my head, forward front crossers.

All and all tonight was very successful. Sorry for the long post, but I have made SO much progress in the last couple months.

SpinnerofDetroitGOLD Member
All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
2,280 posts
Location: Trenton, MI, USA


Posted:
Have fun with learning! You are in the funnest part of poi, the time where you are learning a barrage of new movements and concepts smile I'm starting to get same time butterfly extension pirouettes down. But after like the 3rd turn they fall apart. Actually it was the one and only Pali Endi that helped me with that one in person grin as it is the only flower/extension pirouette combination that I can't do and it angers me.

The only luck is bad luck.

Shut up before I stall my poi up your ass grin


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