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ring_O_fire
newbie
Location: Nottingham
Member Since: 30th Jun 2008
Total posts: 8
Posted:right ok peps i am new here, and when i origanly joined it was with the intention of finding out a little about black bush poi...but all i found was the normal health warnings and a few un helpful pictures,

so i tuck it upon myself to construct some cages of my own and hope for the best.
the results i have achived are to say the least spectaculer (or i think they are anyway)

now what i have started this thread for is to help anyone else who may have the same problem as i did by providing a detailed guide to construction of sparkle poi.

so just to let me know i wont be wasting my time i will start this guide when i get 25+ replys asking for the guide...just to prove that i wont be wasting my time (or to show the reason i couldnt find a guide is because nobody wants one)

happy replying to all intrested


if it dont burn...theres not enogth fule on it...keep them pumps running boys!

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Rellizate
Rellizate

old hand
Location: Cambridge, UK
Member Since: 10th Feb 2007
Total posts: 719
Posted:Yeah please. Would be great. You'll find it hard to get 25 replies though, as not many people talk in this sorta thread in HoP.

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ring_O_fire
newbie
Location: Nottingham
Member Since: 30th Jun 2008
Total posts: 8
Posted:well u replyed in the first few mins...which is a positive sign, i may lower that number but it would be nice to know my work will be appreciated.

if it dont burn...theres not enogth fule on it...keep them pumps running boys!

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PinkNigel
PinkNigel

Pinker than thou
Location: A little pink world all my own...
Member Since: 4th May 2006
Total posts: 336
Posted:Post it anyway.

Even if no-one's interested now, the next time someone asks, 25 people can all chip in with "do a Durbs".

Which would, of course, only lead them here


A wise man once said: "You have two ears and one mouth, therefore you should shut the censored up and listen" (though, to be fair, he might not've put it _quite_ like that..)

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aston
aston

Unofficial Chairperson of Squirrel Defense League
Location: South Africa
Member Since: 2nd Dec 2007
Total posts: 4061
Posted:Black bush poi?

'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland

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ElectricBlue
ElectricBlue

Now with extra strawberries
Location: Canberra
Member Since: 11th Feb 2002
Total posts: 810
Posted:Firstly I don't think many people know what you are talking about, Maybe you should expand on exactly what black bush poi are? Maybe people here call them some thing different?

Secondly I'm pretty sure people won't be responsive because you post is very aggressive and demanding.

Thirdly Why should people have to beg you to post this information, Either you want to share it or you don't?


I {Heart} hand me downs and spinning in the snow.<br /><br />

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UCOF
UCOF

Carpal \'Tunnel

Member Since: 17th Apr 2002
Total posts: 15414
Posted:That Blueberry chap talks sence smile

Make the guide, be helpful, expect nothing but thanks biggrin


Also - "Black Bush" poi are a distinct type of sparkley poi dispenser. I'd consider doing a generic sparkley poi construction guide instead so people don't have to buy whiskey biggrin


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ring_O_fire
newbie
Location: Nottingham
Member Since: 30th Jun 2008
Total posts: 8
Posted:ah my friend that is where i feel alot of people have been going wrong, as i have devised an equaly effective way of constructing them with out blackbush whisky through the miricale that is empty backed bean tins :P...equaly as good / less then half the price

+ im sure alot of people on here would object to buying and drinking a few bottles of whisky :P its all for a good cause biggrin


if it dont burn...theres not enogth fule on it...keep them pumps running boys!

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ring_O_fire
newbie
Location: Nottingham
Member Since: 30th Jun 2008
Total posts: 8
Posted:sorry if my post seems agressive :'( i did not intend it to be, i am just an incredibly lazy person so rili cant be bothered to sit and write out a (wat im guessing will be) a fairly long post if its not needed

and to everyone i have now made a start on the guide as i was not exspecting the responce i have goten (ok 25 was abit hopefull but i was exspecting it to take at minimum 2 weeks or more to get anywhere close and i have had a fair few just over night so it should be up shortly)


if it dont burn...theres not enogth fule on it...keep them pumps running boys!

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UCOF
UCOF

Carpal \'Tunnel

Member Since: 17th Apr 2002
Total posts: 15414
Posted:Good luck with it sir smile
I look forwards to reading it.


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fire.chef
fire.chef

crazy mofo
Location: Southport, lancashire
Member Since: 15th Feb 2008
Total posts: 99
Posted:look forward to see how other people have made there's i made a set a few weeks ago before i'd even seen or heard of these, it will be interesting to know where i can improve mine or put a contrubution into improving your construction

Yo Yo Yo motherfcukers

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onewheeldave
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Location: sheffield
Member Since: 28th Aug 2002
Total posts: 3252
Posted: Written by :ring_O_fire




........and to everyone i have now made a start on the guide as i was not exspecting the responce i have goten (ok 25 was abit hopefull but i was exspecting it to take at minimum 2 weeks or more to get anywhere close and i have had a fair few just over night so it should be up shortly)



I hope you'll do us all a favour and, in your guide, make an attempt to also address some of the safety issues of these kind of poi.

I was present during some of the testing and filming of the original 'Black Bush' poi and witnessed some of the very nasty scars on Jo's chest that resulted from the unplanned contacts.

They do, after all, rain molten metal smile

Personally, I wouldn't even think about using them without wearing proper safety eyewear.


"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."

--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32


Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!

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ring_O_fire
newbie
Location: Nottingham
Member Since: 30th Jun 2008
Total posts: 8
Posted: Written by

I hope you'll do us all a favour and, in your guide, make an attempt to also address some of the safety issues of these kind of poi.



well so far Ive wacked in the usual disclaimer but nothing fancy, i intend to put in some advice on the best ways to use them towards the end i have to say every time i have spun them if have been warring nothing more then a short sleeve t-shirt and jeans (not recommending this to anyone though) more through forgetfulness then stupidity and so far i have had no visible burns, but i guess its only a matter of time rely frown

so what Im rely saying is that when i have finished the guide if you feel anything has been un said that needs saying ether through my stupidity or general ignorance please feel free to add to it. the way i see it the safer it is the more people will try it and the better it will become smile

thanks


if it dont burn...theres not enogth fule on it...keep them pumps running boys!

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onewheeldave
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Location: sheffield
Member Since: 28th Aug 2002
Total posts: 3252
Posted:One essential safety thing is to stress that they should not be spun near bystanders.

It tends not to be said, probably because you'd think it wouldn't need to be said- that no-one could be so stupid as to not know it.

However, I have personally witnessed someone wander into the middle of a group of spinners and, start churning out molten metal from their home-made 'sparky poi'.


"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."

--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32


Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!

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ring_O_fire
newbie
Location: Nottingham
Member Since: 30th Jun 2008
Total posts: 8
Posted:ah very good point i would have forgotten to put that in.

actually i had a similar problem this weekend i was doing a show for a renaissance and it came to using the poi and even with warnings half the crowds (mostly the kids) refused to move any thither away eventually with some gentle persuasion from some helpers everyone was a safe distance away and i started to spin the poi and with a quick change of wind which had been accounted for while marking out (25ft in every direction) but yet the sparks still made it to where they would have been sitting, how glad i was i had asked tem to move thither for that part of the show

...one man even came and thanked me afterwards as he thought i was exaggerating when i told him he may want to move as sparks would be heading his way.

So thankyou for pointing this out smile

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Oh and here is a picture from that show smilejust to show everyone the effect created by my poi design I will be showing how to construct in the guide

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t125/bobrob5k/black%20bush%20poi/PICT0091.jpg
enjoy smile
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if it dont burn...theres not enogth fule on it...keep them pumps running boys!

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fNi
fNi

master of disaster
Location: New York
Member Since: 8th Mar 2004
Total posts: 3354
Posted:i thought steel wool was supposed to auto-hyperlink?
EDITED_BY: fNi (1215017766)


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ezz: please corrupt me more

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Mint Sauce
veteran
Location: Lancs England
Member Since: 7th Sep 2003
Total posts: 1453
Posted:I wrote this ages and ages ago hope it helps please feel free to add any extra information you have gathered. biggrin

My OLD OLD post click the link

or thanks to hop in all its wisdom (because of the obvious dangers) did a quick link thingy as fNi pointed out. wink

Hummm I wonder how many combinations of wire wool are linked. confused

wire wool
sparkly poi
steel wool
steel wire
aggggh big sparking thing of pure DANGER

humm I see the last one didnt work
ubbrollsmile


before i met those lot i thought they'd be a bunch of dreadlocked hippies that smoked, set things on fire ,and drank a lot of tea but then when i met them....oh wait (PyroWill)

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Mint Sauce
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Location: Lancs England
Member Since: 7th Sep 2003
Total posts: 1453
Posted:oh they didnt work tobi sad frown

before i met those lot i thought they'd be a bunch of dreadlocked hippies that smoked, set things on fire ,and drank a lot of tea but then when i met them....oh wait (PyroWill)

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Mint Sauce
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Location: Lancs England
Member Since: 7th Sep 2003
Total posts: 1453
Posted:Hi ring_O_fire I dont want to sound all old and grumpy but I am so thats how it comes across.





 Written by :ring_O_fire



wacked in the usual disclaimer but nothing fancy



have been warring nothing more then a short sleeve t-shirt and jeans more through forgetfulness then stupidity







Forgetfulness!!!!!!!!! Im sorry but stupidity is the much better description these thing get hot I mean seriously HOT it is molten steel as Dave pointed out.



I once in my stupid younger days grazed my arm once with one of my cages it gave me a full on second degree burn with big pitted marks full of bits of wire.



Have you ever tangled your poi up or hit yourself (if you say no then you are either a poi god or lying) image your worst tangle then add HOT HOT melting metal to the mix!!!!!





Im sorry if I sound harsh and by all means keep up the good work I for one am very interested in your designs and would love to see them but please be safe.


before i met those lot i thought they'd be a bunch of dreadlocked hippies that smoked, set things on fire ,and drank a lot of tea but then when i met them....oh wait (PyroWill)

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ubersmack
ubersmack

journeyman
Location: Wisconsin
Member Since: 9th Jul 2006
Total posts: 73
Posted:I have a good description of my sparkle poi in this thread if you want to see how mine are made, pics included. I could also write more of a guide if anyone wants me to, don't need 25 peeps either. Someone just needs to ask smile

"Runs with Scissors"

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Mint Sauce
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Location: Lancs England
Member Since: 7th Sep 2003
Total posts: 1453
Posted:link not working takes you to a blank page

before i met those lot i thought they'd be a bunch of dreadlocked hippies that smoked, set things on fire ,and drank a lot of tea but then when i met them....oh wait (PyroWill)

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ubersmack
ubersmack

journeyman
Location: Wisconsin
Member Since: 9th Jul 2006
Total posts: 73
Posted:? worked for me just now

"Runs with Scissors"

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