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delicatessen
BRONZE Member since Jul 2007

newbie
Location: , Portugal

Total posts: 5
Posted:hello,

I've just started getting myself into firedancing and like everyone else that starts from scratch I'm a complete newbie. I'd ask a few minutes of yer guys time and answer some of my noobish questions along with your opinion on what I should start with, etc..

I'm more the staff type rather than poi.
So I'm thinking of ordering the following set:
- DVD - Fire training video (free one)
- DVD, Art of Staff & Sage behind the flame
- Inner core fire 3 piece CONTACT staff ( Colour: Red - 1420mm, )
What do you guys think for a starter?

now the rly newbie questions:

a) how do I set the wick on fire? I just get a lighter on it or do I need some fuel?
a.1) where to get that fuel? which type of fuel?

b) one wick thingy only lasts 1 burn? is there any trick to detach\attach it?

c) should I buy right away a wick roll or the default one will do for the time being? I don't intend to lit it right now in the beginning.

d) how do I extinguish it?

sorry, I'm sure you are all sick of these rookie questions and some of them probably will make you laugh :x but please answer it.

any more tips would be greatly appreciated!

thanks in advance mates


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fake teeth and glue
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Location: somewhere, England (UK)

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Posted:a) how do I set the wick on fire? I just get a lighter on it or do I need some fuel?
a.1) where to get that fuel? which type of fuel?

b) one wick thingy only lasts 1 burn? is there any trick to detach\attach it?

c) should I buy right away a wick roll or the default one will do for the time being? I don't intend to lit it right now in the beginning.

d) how do I extinguish it?
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well you'll need some fuel, paraffin (kerosene is another name for it it i think) which you put in a container and and dip the wick in and light it. you can usually get paraffin at your local hardware store.

the wick should last a long time, I've had the same wick on my staff since i bought it.
I'm not aware of any trick where you can detach the wick unless you have a detachable staff type thing.

it usually just goes out after a while of spinning, or in water in you have to put it out.


these are just brief answers to your questions,
you should check out fire safety it has allot of info there.


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animatEd
BRONZE Member since Aug 2004

animatEd

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Location: Bristol UK

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Posted:DON'T put it in water. if your wick is wet, it won't soak up fuel.

smother the flames, or blow them out.

find someone else in your area that spins fire, and watch what they do.


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Durbs
BRONZE Member since Sep 2001

Durbs

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Location: Epsom, Surrey, England

Total posts: 5688
Posted:a) Yep, soak it in paraffin, then use a lighter. The fire-training DVD explains all this


b) The kevlar wick is fireproof - only the fuel on the wick burns. Treated well, a wick should last years.

c) Nope, don't buy any extra wick

d) It'll go out after a while of spinning. If you want to put it out sooner, smother it with a fire-blanket or a damp towel. Don't but it in water, it'll ruin the wick.

But honestly, don't rush into fire - learn lots without fire, then take a step back and make sure you're ready for it smile

Oh - and have a good read through of the articles (at the top of this page) and other threads in the forum. There's lots of newbies here (past and present) and they've all been in the same situation and asked the same questions smile


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Gnor
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Posted:Its called " Do a Durbs". No it doesnt mean doing rude and possibly enjoyable things to the talented Durbs, it means do a search.

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UCOF
SILVER Member since Apr 2002

UCOF

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Location: , United Kingdom

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Posted:Just in case you missed it, DON'T put the wick in water!!!
Its very very bad.

spank for Fake teeth and glue for the incorrect advice!


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Posted:ubblol see how "sick" we are of "newbie questions"?

I just love that bunch ubblove


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delicatessen
BRONZE Member since Jul 2007

newbie
Location: , Portugal

Total posts: 5
Posted:gotcha.

regarding the staff thingy, you guys think I should start with poi or staff is alright? I kinda like it.. although I'm a bit small in height and a bit skinny dunno if I can handle it softly if it's too heavy.

btw, I never heard of this before.. I don't know of anyone that is into this by my zone.. I'm from portugal.


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Rellizate
GOLD Member since Feb 2007

Rellizate

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Location: Cambridge, UK

Total posts: 719
Posted:Starting with staff is fine. However, if I were you I would not get the 3 peice. These staffs break easier than normal ones for obvious reasons. When you first start using it, it will take quite a battering, so it may brake. It is probably simpler just to start with a normal 140cm staff. That's what I did. The instructional DVD shows you how to dip your staff, but I find that it is easier to do it a different way.

The DVD says to stick then wick in a paint can, then poor a bit of paraffin over the wick until it is wet, then that's it. I find it better to get a container which is just wider than your wicks (a normal cup/thermose is good) and slighty higher than your wicks, and submerge the wicks completly in paraffin. When the bubbles stop it's fine to take it out. This means that it will absorb as much paraffin as it possibly can which is good.

Also, when I started I was 5 foot, and very very skinny, so It will be fine.


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delicatessen
BRONZE Member since Jul 2007

newbie
Location: , Portugal

Total posts: 5
Posted:the staffs are all expensive!
not just the staff but the price to europe..
since it can be packed the 3 piece is not as expensive as the others -.-'


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Durbs
BRONZE Member since Sep 2001

Durbs

Classically British
Location: Epsom, Surrey, England

Total posts: 5688
Posted:The concentrate staffs are excellent - i've dropped mine several times from pretty high throws and never had a problem with one breaking...

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delicatessen
BRONZE Member since Jul 2007

newbie
Location: , Portugal

Total posts: 5
Posted:so I needa know.. which one is better for me?

http://www.homeofpoi.com/shop/productDetails/257_30_Inner_fire

http://www.homeofpoi.com/shop/productDetails/247_30_Full_length

http://www.homeofpoi.com/shop/productDetails/246_30_Full_length

the cheapest (along with delivery cost) is the 3 piece one (1st link)
the most expensive is the 2nd link.


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FireTom


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Posted:Oi, I would measure the length of your arm (palm to pit) x2 = optimal length for you. (same applies to poi-chains).

Concentrate staff is pretty good and doesn't break as fast as other collapsible staff... guess you're safe on this one (just watch out - NO sand into the thread)...

Other than that I would advise to take the heaviest available...


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delicatessen
BRONZE Member since Jul 2007

newbie
Location: , Portugal

Total posts: 5
Posted:gold - 1220 mm - 3 piece staff then

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fake teeth and glue
BRONZE Member since Aug 2003

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Location: somewhere, England (UK)

Total posts: 1972
Posted:ok so when i said put in water i meant like in an emergency..."if you have to".

but yeah smothering it is better.



*note to self, don't post advice when tired/fatigued*


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UCOF
SILVER Member since Apr 2002

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Posted:Excuses, excuses nana

wink


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fake teeth and glue
BRONZE Member since Aug 2003

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Location: somewhere, England (UK)

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Posted:no! they're not excuses...they're "reasons" ubblol

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faith enfire
BRONZE Member since Jan 2006

faith enfire

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Location: Wisconsin, USA

Total posts: 3556
Posted:don't rush into fire-it took me a year and a half, just done it a few times.
if you want to practice broom handles are a cheap alternative for the time being. I still don't have my own fire gear
if you want to do staff rather than poi, that's fine too. We have a lot of amazing staffers here


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