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KaelGotRiceGOLD Member
Basu gasu bakuhatsu - because sometimes buses explode
1,584 posts
Location: Angels Landing, USA


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Quoted from Fark.

Iran's recent History
1953. CIA back coup overthrows the democratically elected government.

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1953-1979 The US Supported a brutal dictatorship. 1000's murdered, tortured by the SAVAK.

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1980-1988 The US supported the aggressor in a war that cost Iran 500,000 killed

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US Navy escorts shipping up/down the gulf, but allows Iraq to sink Iranian Shipping

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US sells arms including chemical weapon to Iraq.

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1988- USS ship shoots down a commercial flight operated by Iran Air. refuse to apoligise. Gives medals to the shooters.
George H. W. Bush declared, "I will never apologize for the United States of America — I don't care what the facts are" in reference to the incident.


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US Labels Iran in the Axis of Evil

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Regional neighbors, India/Pakistan get nukes

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US invades Iran's neighbor Iraq, farking them up beyond repair.

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Now why would they want nukes after that?

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In before "why do you hate america" Kael?

My perspective. I was always against the Iraq war. Simply going in after Saddam because he had/might have had WMD's was a ridiculous reason; Especially considering that during the Reagan administration we sold Saddam the technology for chemical weapons so he would gas the Iranians (who's government we hated more at the time). Since Congress still has incumbent congressmen from the Reagan administration, no one wants to admit they signed the bill selling chemical weapons tech to Iraq, which we apparently went to get rid of in this war. Turns out Saddam didn't have them anyway, they were already used or beyond their shelf life. Congratulations on the clusterfuck Congress and Bush.

Now we're seeing commercials for supporting the bombing of Iran. I don't want them to get nukes either. But considering we're raping their neighbor Iraq for oil and contracts (Did I mention I [censored] hate Halliburton?) to rebuild their country and that we pretty much screwed them in the past, I could see why Iran would want them. World War 3 anyone?

Not to mention our rivals China and Russia have lucrative contracts with Iran. It's almost like declaring war on them but not!

Best case scenario? Open conversation between the middle eastern countries, especially Iran, Syria, Israel, and the current lackeys in Iraq. Thwart the worse case scenario... can you say, 'glass parking lot'?

Parting thought - wikipedia on Iran
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Tens of thousands of Iranian civilians and military personnel were killed when Iraq used chemical weapons in its warfare. Iraq was financially backed by Egypt, the Arab countries of the Persian Gulf, the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact states, the United States (beginning in 1983), France, the United Kingdom, Germany, Brazil, and the People's Republic of China (which also sold weapons to Iran). All of these countries provided intelligence, agents for chemical weapons as well as other forms of military assistance to Saddam Hussein. Iran's principal allies during the war were Syria, Libya, and North Korea.

With more than 100,000 Iranian victims[37] of Iraq's chemical weapons during the eight-year war, Iran is the world's second-most afflicted country by weapons of mass destruction, only to Japan.



[sarcasm]AMERICA HAS ALWAYS BEEN AT WAR WITH IRAN[/sarcasm]
I'm not proud to be an American sometimes.

Your thoughts? frown

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SymBRONZE Member
Geek-enviro-hippy priest
1,858 posts
Location: Diss, Norfolk, United Kingdom


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It causes terrorism, obviously.

There's too many home fires burning and not enough trees


KaelGotRiceGOLD Member
Basu gasu bakuhatsu - because sometimes buses explode
1,584 posts
Location: Angels Landing, USA


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War on drugs, war on terrorism, us Americans are at war on other objects or subjective ideas - am I right? wink I wonder when we'll have a war on idiocy.

I haven't been in here awhile, but I glad for the information that was brought up after my initial post. Much more to think about...

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Fresno fire


polaritySILVER Member
veteran
1,228 posts
Location: on the wrong planet, United Kingdom


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As to the reason why of planes vs missiles;



Even the best military GPS used for missile guidance can be off by a few feet, given that the missile it's in has to travel so far, and it's going so fast. The laser guided missiles fired from a plane can usually hit a much smaller target. One plane can fire the missile while another 'paints' the target. The same kind of technology that's used to stabilise images in video cameras gives the one doing the aiming a very stable image on which to position the laser. It also allows for movement of the plane.

You aren't thinking or really existing unless you're willing to risk even your own sanity in the judgment of your existence.

Green peppers, lime pickle and whole-grain mustard = best sandwich filling.


Sambo_FluxGOLD Member
Introverted
833 posts
Location: Norf London, United Kingdom


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A very scary article

My Mind is a Ship
Emotions become the Waves
Soul is the Ocean

If a quizz is quizzical, what is a test?


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