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Kyrian
Dreamer
Location: York, England
Member Since: 15th Mar 2002
Total posts: 4308
Posted:In general, altho heterosexual, I don't really care who I kiss. I mean, kissing a girl isn't any different than kissing a guy except they NEVER have stubble. And if they're a good kisser than hey, everyone wins.

But lately I've been plagued by this random desire to kiss a girl I know. I'm pretty sure she's straight. (Even if she wasn't I totally don't see why she'd be attracted to me). And thus, like, for example, walking up to her and saying "would you like to kiss me", even if I was drunk, seems a bad idea.

But I really wanna! Bah. Advice? And, Hetero guys and gals, anything like this ever happen to you?


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lauz the caterpilla

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Posted:i've kissed masses of girls and done more than that. i'm straight i know this because of doing things with females but i still have a weird fantasy about me and two lesbians hmmmmm i shant say any more about that.

but go for it. seriously it'll be worth it in the end and you'll learn something from it.
and try not to be drunk when you do it because you'll probably make an idiot out of your self with words.

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Pigeon_Wigeon
Pigeon_Wigeon

Say what?
Location: Surrey/Portsmouth
Member Since: 24th Dec 2004
Total posts: 4760
Posted:Hmm....... I'm afraid I have to follow the vodka agreement. If you don't know her very well.. then you can't just ask her to kiss you because that could cause some problems like you say. My ex girlfriend admitted she loved me way before I had feelings for her and that she always had a lot of urges to kiss me but never wanted me to turn around and be like ..wtf... so she didnt until much later when she thought I may have feelings for her too. Then it went much better smile So I reckon.. stick to the vodka or build soemthing with her.. or it could end very badly biggrin

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FoxInDocs
FoxInDocs

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Location: Adelaide, SA
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Total posts: 1848
Posted:Written by: Kyrian

Some men, doc, some men... some men are very girly kissers tongue biggrin ubblol



mhmm, and then there's the one's that try to eat your head...


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MiG
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Posted:*looks all angelic*

You could, if you thought it was going to be a long term desire, build it really slowly. Flirt a little every other time you see her, hug her a little closer for a little longer. Drop hints, ranging from the insanely subtle, to the blatantly obvious, depending on sobreity. Tickle her every now and then, or mock wrestle or anything that involves closeish contact. Use these occasions to guage her reaction to your close proximity.

Or, just go the alcohol path tongue


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Hanz
Hanz

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Location: Bendigo, Vic, Australia
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Posted:or play spin the bottle...

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Doc Lightning
Doc Lightning

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Location: San Francisco, CA, USA
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Posted:Written by: MiG

Tickle her every now and then, or mock wrestle or anything that involves closeish contact. Use these occasions to guage her reaction to your close proximity.



Yeah, and I'm REAL sure you aren't fantasizing about this.

wink


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Doc Lightning
Doc Lightning

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Location: San Francisco, CA, USA
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Posted:Oh, Kyri, I get the desire to kiss straight boys all the time. (And do more than that).

My solution is... I don't. Because I'd rather chance being friends with them than ruining even that.


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Igirisujin
Igirisujin

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Location: Preston
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Posted:Str8 people turn me off, I know theres no hope, i never understood the fasination gay men have with st8's.

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Kyrian
Dreamer
Location: York, England
Member Since: 15th Mar 2002
Total posts: 4308
Posted:But see you're gay.

I'm not even bi. I'm not going to then say "wait, i've been fantasizing about having sex with you and so...."

I'm not even positive she's straight ^_^

The one problem with making it take awhile is, like with about 95% of my friends, i don't live nearby. Like, at all. So it'd then be like a three year project.... not to say i'm not considering it....

Of course sometimes you read them all wrong, I had one case (straight boy, as least it was a sensical setup) where I was getting no return signals, I later found out it was cause he'd wanted me since the first time he saw me from a distance and was trying "not to be rude..."


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blu_valley
blu_valley

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Location: Brighton
Member Since: 8th Apr 2005
Total posts: 197
Posted:I'm straight, but a lot of my friends are gay and i find I mostly go gay clubbing. I've kissed loads of girls because it is just nice. I kiss all my gay boyfriends too. Theres a complete understanding between all of us (I'd say about 8 of us that do it often) that there is nothing sexual about it. Its just nice having a good ol kiss with a good friend when you are off your face.

The way this all started was my lesbian friend came up to me outside a pub and told me she want ed to kiss me properly ,so I let her, and it was great. Then one of my gay boyfriends jumped in and started kissing us both and so on. Anyone walking past would have told all 8 of us to get a room! But its very exciting and fun. Sometimes I want to kiss a girl and not a boy,it's so much softer and I hate stubble too.


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hexagonic
hexagonic

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Location: Manchester
Member Since: 18th Feb 2004
Total posts: 1687
Posted:Written by: Kyrian

Of course sometimes you read them all wrong, I had one case where I was getting no return signals, I later found out it was cause he'd wanted me since the first time he saw me from a distance and was trying "not to be rude..."



Case in point. I have enough regrets how i should have "done the deed" to various girls over the years who fell into the above category one way or another. Just hurry up and do it, you can only fail which is much better than wondering what if for the rest of your life.

So in short, GET ON WITH IT!! smile and tell us how it goes wink


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Arty Farty
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Total posts: 551
Posted:Written by: blu_valley

Its just nice having a good ol kiss with a good friend when you are off your face.



Total ditto

I always kiss my lady friends when im out. We have an understanding that its simply kissing and nothing more. I love it!!! I love kissing, whoever it may be. I dont know whether its me they like or the fact that as a gay im 'safe'.

Ive only randomy kissed my gay mate a few times, and all my other kisses with boys have lead to further antics. I save kisses with boys for those who i actually fancy, which is a lot more difficult than pulling a random girl (something i find easy to do). The straight guys I know dont go in for kissing me, and i dont really fancy it either.

Kissing girls is fun, but kissing a guy i like is better!!

Just go for it blu, your a pretty lady, and i would very much like to kiss you ( redface ), so i cant see why she wouldnt ubblol


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screech

circling on the edge of madness
Location: away with the faeries
Member Since: 22nd Apr 2005
Total posts: 889
Posted:i don't really care boys girls doesn't bother me sometimes stubble can be a bit itchy but i can't say either are better kissers.

got in trouble at work once was dared to kiss one of my good mates by thye girl i was with

what i didn't realise was i worked with his ex wife and her lodger saw it and told her then all the girla at work gave me serious hassle about it. ubblol


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Kyrian
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Location: York, England
Member Since: 15th Mar 2002
Total posts: 4308
Posted:To call attention to my danica patrick analogy earlier, there's still a seperate relationship there i'd like to be able to benefit from... i'm pretty sure she's not nuts, but, .... its a calculated risk type of thing and i can't decide from my current vantage point whether its worth it. Which is why i need help learning to read girls.... rolleyes confused thankx redface

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Rouge Dragon
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Posted:i dont really condone the whole " get drunk and kiss her" line...but thats what most of my friends seem to do! just drink and kiss. so, well, going by what they do!

i would have changed ***** to phallus, and claire to petey Petey

Rougie: but that's what I'm doing here
Arnwyn: what letting me adjust myself in your room?..don't you dare quote that on HoP...

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Mynci
Mynci

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Location: wombling free...
Member Since: 27th Apr 2005
Total posts: 8737
Posted:No point asking us guys...sheesh we still have no idea how to read women....ubblol

I know a few things (but beware they may be all lies wink)


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screech

circling on the edge of madness
Location: away with the faeries
Member Since: 22nd Apr 2005
Total posts: 889
Posted:reading women! you think any man on the planet can do that, we just take chances and hope like hell that we're right redface

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Rouge Dragon
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Posted:right? men?

i would have changed ***** to phallus, and claire to petey Petey

Rougie: but that's what I'm doing here
Arnwyn: what letting me adjust myself in your room?..don't you dare quote that on HoP...

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NYC
NYC

NYC
Location: NYC, NY, USA
Member Since: 26th Aug 2001
Total posts: 9232
Posted:Written by: Rouge Dragon

i dont really condone the whole " get drunk and kiss her" line...but thats what most of my friends seem to do!



I'm with Rouge on this one.

I think a simple "Do you kiss girls?" would be enough of a hint.

If she asks why you can say "Because I think you'd be a good kisser" or "Because you're kinda cute" or something...

That puts you 75% of the way out there and still leaves her an 'out'... rather than the awkward
"Would you like to kiss me?"
"No"
scenario.

I think if you opened the topic of kissing in general, it'd be easy to figure out if she wanted to kiss you.

And if you still need help, you could always post a video and have us critique your style.

wink eek


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Kyrian
Dreamer
Location: York, England
Member Since: 15th Mar 2002
Total posts: 4308
Posted:Yknow... NYC may have just cottoned onto the idea I've been too sick to think of. Of course, the more she gets to know me the less well this will work as a hint of any kind.

(Case in point: I asked a friend, whilst we were wandering around down by a river, if he thought sex outside of relationships was ok. But I have such a reputation for odd questions that this particular one didn't give me any of the "hint points" I was so desperatly hoping for at the time....)

(it worked out tho biggrin)

Plan: Create a situation where we're alone and I can ask her before she gets to know me too much better biggrin

NYC, you rock my world.


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NYC
NYC

NYC
Location: NYC, NY, USA
Member Since: 26th Aug 2001
Total posts: 9232
Posted:Written by: Kyrian

NYC, you rock my world.



Yet another girl who's world I've rocked.

Yawn.

wink


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Kyrian
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Location: York, England
Member Since: 15th Mar 2002
Total posts: 4308
Posted:You sound like me.... ubblol

Except in my case I was making fun of a handful of boys for all using the same line in the same two days......

PS: No effin videos boyo! If you're not there for the live action you miss tongue


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NYC
NYC

NYC
Location: NYC, NY, USA
Member Since: 26th Aug 2001
Total posts: 9232
Posted:Written by: Kyrian

PS: No effin videos boyo! If you're not there for the live action you miss tongue



Hey, if I'm getting on a plane for some live action, it sure as heck isn't flying west. ubbangel


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Kyrian
Dreamer
Location: York, England
Member Since: 15th Mar 2002
Total posts: 4308
Posted:Er, said action would be a lot more east of you than i am... tongue biggrin (any of it really!)

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Durbs
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Location: Epsom, Surrey, England
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Total posts: 5688
Posted:Dang, and I thought all the kissing was going to be down south wink

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Kyrian
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Location: York, England
Member Since: 15th Mar 2002
Total posts: 4308
Posted:Ha. Ha. Ha.

There may be some southerners involved tho ubbangel


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Sethis

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Location: York University
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Total posts: 1762
Posted:OK, innuendo is getting *waaaayy* out of hand now wink

I agree with the "Bring up the subject and hint" approach, but then, I agree with the "Post a video" suggestion, so what do I know?

ubbangel


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Mynci
Mynci

Macaque of all trades
Location: wombling free...
Member Since: 27th Apr 2005
Total posts: 8737
Posted:Written by: Durbs

Dang, and I thought all the kissing was going to be down south wink


ubblol south of what wink

Look at her body language...mimickry is a good thing to look for, see if she mirrors any of your movements. Or be a blatant flirt in a jokey way and see how she responds. If your not taking it seriously then she's less likely to be offended. that way if yer blown out...meh, you have the fall back of not being too serious.

I myself can be an outragous tart when single. ubblol but then thats the best time biggrin
and keep yer options open don't put all your eggs in one basket wink


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Kyrian
Dreamer
Location: York, England
Member Since: 15th Mar 2002
Total posts: 4308
Posted:Where would I be without Sethis and Mynci to smack me over the head and say "You never get written innuendo do you?"

D'oh.

Hiding now.....

I did, however, get the last line (mynci's), thank you. Worry not. I seem to have played things just about perfectly without even realizing it... my options are plentiful and shall be taken advantage of.. biggrin (hopefully including "this" one biggrin)


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screech

circling on the edge of madness
Location: away with the faeries
Member Since: 22nd Apr 2005
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Posted:Written by: Mynci

Written by: Durbs

Dang, and I thought all the kissing was going to be down south wink


ubblol south of what wink


I myself can be an outragous tart when single. ubblol but then thats the best time biggrin
and keep yer options open don't put all your eggs in one basket wink




ubblol too durbs

and exactly how many baskets have you filled up now mynci too many thats for sure

TART! ubblol

seriously kyrian its one of the hardest things to work out but lots of flirting and suggestion then when it feels right go for it if you get bombed out at least you tried it happens to everyone at some time or other.


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