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arashi
arashi

Pooh-Bah
Location: austin,tx
Member Since: 21st Mar 2002
Total posts: 2363
Posted:ok. so i realize the word nigger encapsulates all that is wrong with the world. racism is evil. but steve martin's scene from the jerk was not racist.

this obviously stupid italian guy is talking to steve ( who was raised by poor african americans) about blacks moving on to a certain area. the italian guy calls them "niggers" and steve martin rips off his robe, screams "i AM a nigger!" and proceeds to go kung fu on them. the word in this context is actually a symbol of white folks jumping in to the battle and not putting up with racism.

i suppose i'm okay that people felt the need to censor on this site yet again. in fact i'm okay with people not liking racism. but please pick your fights appropriately. and yes i find this trend disturbing. why not ask people to clarify before jumping to conclusions and censoring the thread? you've missed out on a great piece of humor i believe wink



and if the thread was censored because i was making fun of honkys...

well...



sorry but you're going to have to keep censoring me because i'll never stop biggrin

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-Such a price the gods exact for song: to become what we sing
-Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty.
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Europe,Scotland,Both
Member Since: 5th Nov 2001
Total posts: 3749
Posted:oh look, he got here, thanks charles!

i really wanna know what i wrote...

tho it will probibly not be half as good as I remember...

T wave


This is a post by tom, all spelling is deleberate
-><- Kallisti

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Kyrian
Dreamer
Location: York, England
Member Since: 15th Mar 2002
Total posts: 4308
Posted:Ah-ha! (Charles, Nx?... surely malcolm? for the getting here bit?)

Thanks malcom, of course these things happen. Just got weird when it disapeered for so long.....

smile Thanks for responding


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Dreamin is still how the strong survive

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Malcolm
Malcolm

HOP admin
Location: HOP
Member Since: 18th Nov 2003
Total posts: 992
Posted:I have moved the "Guff" thread back into "Staff" forum.

Remember not everyone knows Steve Martin or the scene that was described and I can see how some members could have got offended.

Also thanks [Nx?] for letting us know about this "problem".

Most moderators have been busy/away for a while or with limited access and even then they can not be expected to read everything.

HOP expects all members to help keep the community tidy.

Use the "Notify Moderator" and it emails moderators and myself directly. Or use the "Contact Administrator" link at the bottom of the page.

Cheers

Malcolm


"May your balls always burn"

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Ade
Are we there yet?
Location: australia
Member Since: 14th Mar 2001
Total posts: 1897
Posted:thanks newgabe, that's what I meant, you said it better than I could

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flash fire
flash fire

Sporadically Prodigal
Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia
Member Since: 25th Jan 2001
Total posts: 2758
Posted:Thanks Malcolm smile I was utterly confused and had no idea what the uproar was about! smile

On behalf of the mods, I'm sorry for not showing up in this thread and addressing your queries earlier, but as Malcolm mentioned we can't read everything, so if there is ever a query please contact us directly with the 'notify moderator' button and we will be with you shortly.

But you guys have a point, and one that I try my hardest to adhere to: it's important that thread authors be notified if their creation is deleted/moved/edited.


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Stone
Stream Entrant
Location: Melbourne
Member Since: 13th Jun 2001
Total posts: 2830
Posted:Thanks Malcolm and flash smile


Hi newgabe, dont take this the wrong way as its for clarification, but when you say: I am "pretty sure" that indigenous Australians prefer not to be called 'blacks' or even 'Aborigines' but by local terms which are more congruent with their own identifications. eg, Koori in the south, Murri in Queensland, or even more locally specific terms according to the land they come from. I think the same is true for Melanesians in the Asia Pacific regions, Southern India etc. Have you ever asked any of theses peoples what they prefer to be called?

I mean being pretty sure is one thing, but it doesnt convey any consultation. So, is this just another case of a political correct imposition of what white folks think indigenous Australians should be called?


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newgabe
newgabe

what goes around comes around. unless you're into stalls.
Location: Bali
Member Since: 3rd Mar 2005
Total posts: 4030
Posted:Hi Stone,



Good question smile no offence taken at all... prepare here for a full and frank disclosure of the consultation process!



In my long distant youth, I spent 2 years living in India and became very aware of the precision with which people there define and describe themselves and others in terms of caste, 'native place', language and religion. I thought it was a bit silly as I was in my 'cosmic citizen' young hippie peace phase.



When I came back to Australia in 1992, after lots of years in London, I came across Murri Radio. I wasn't familiar with the term, but I was impressed with the station, so I phoned them and had quite a chat with one of their managers about the whole issue of 'racial' identifications, names etc. He explained it to me exactly as I put in my post, and opened my eyes enormously to the dignity of being able to 'name yourself'.



Then I got involved with BEMAC (Brisbane Ethnic Music and Arts Centre) where such discussions were frequent...and where, ironically, I found myself in the parallel position. One particular time I found being described as "Anglo" was quite offensive, and that led to even more chats with people about 'lumping' by 'ethnic'/'racial' characteristics and the value of acknowledging people's own sense of history and belonging. For instance, there are lots of people around who identify and are accepted as indigineous people although they look 'white'.



(I am putting 'race' in inverted commas because some of my recent reading has indicated that the whole idea of 'race' is a genetic furphy.)



Since then I did short courses on 'cross cultural counselling' and 'indigenous therapies' that touched on identification..(and a lot more on generational grief...) Then worked for a few years with the people who organised the Murri program at Woodford Folk Festy...and more recently the Dreaming Festival. From that I've learned a bit about how to 'describe', when that is deemed necessary. For the other groups I mentioned, less consultation to be sure eg chats with an acquaintance from the Solomons about being of 'mixed' race, about the implications of how people name and so on...having a number of friends from the Middle east.



So, in saying 'pretty sure' I was partly being mimsy and also trying to follow the practice of not, indeed, speaking for other people. After all are many folks about who LOVE being called 'black!' eg the Blackrobats, a terrific kid's performance/gymnastics troupe... or people who glory in the redemption of the term...like USA folks might say 'nigger' with a positive spin...



OK, Thanks for asking! Gotta get back to work now!



hug


.....Can't juggle balls but I sure as hell can juggle details....

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Stone
Stream Entrant
Location: Melbourne
Member Since: 13th Jun 2001
Total posts: 2830
Posted:Thanks newgabe, that explains a lot.

Perhaps, many of us new chums lost our cultural/tribal identifications when we were transported to Australia.

cheers


beerchug


If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh

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arashi
arashi

Pooh-Bah
Location: austin,tx
Member Since: 21st Mar 2002
Total posts: 2363
Posted:OK my faith is restored in humanity. misunderstandings are a much better reason to censor me biggrin

-Such a price the gods exact for song: to become what we sing
-Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty.
-When the center of the storm does not move, you are in its path.

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_Clare_
_Clare_

Still wiggling
Location: Belfast
Member Since: 22nd Oct 2002
Total posts: 5967
Posted:"...what meg said earlier..."

umm

ubblol

biatch...

(And after I posted a lovely pic of a staff girly just for you tongue)




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strugz
strugz

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Southampton - Possibly...
Member Since: 6th Mar 2002
Total posts: 3964
Posted:**pretends to be durbs**

(just for consistancy you understand)

ooo claire - ***insert bad pervy comment here****

i think you find that Mr 2bags was sat with MCP when that was being typed..........his fault.......not hers........ trust me wink

I mean think about it - who would notice something like that - a lonley old somewhat jelous 2bags or MCP cool

c'mon biggrin


"...We don't stop playing because we get old, we get old because we stop playing......."

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_Clare_
_Clare_

Still wiggling
Location: Belfast
Member Since: 22nd Oct 2002
Total posts: 5967
Posted:ubblol ubblol ubblol

That makes more sense... humblest apologies to the lady.


Yeush. I miss you guys. hug


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2bags
2bags

enthusiast
Location: bristol, uk
Member Since: 12th Apr 2004
Total posts: 272
Posted:excuse me? strugz, how dare you direct your misspelt missives at me.



i have no more control over what mcp types, then you appear to have over what you type.



had i been in control of the post i would have been flirting with firepoise, not reprimanding durbs. i think you'll find that my fantasies involve both of them ubblove.



and you should watch who you're calling old, because i'm on the right side of twenty-five and you ain't.



tongue


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strugz
strugz

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Southampton - Possibly...
Member Since: 6th Mar 2002
Total posts: 3964
Posted:**looks at watch**

doh! - hes right!

ubblol


"...We don't stop playing because we get old, we get old because we stop playing......."

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arashi
arashi

Pooh-Bah
Location: austin,tx
Member Since: 21st Mar 2002
Total posts: 2363
Posted:happy bday dude!!

-Such a price the gods exact for song: to become what we sing
-Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty.
-When the center of the storm does not move, you are in its path.

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_Clare_
_Clare_

Still wiggling
Location: Belfast
Member Since: 22nd Oct 2002
Total posts: 5967
Posted:rolleyes

Does anyone have any recommendations for non-fire costumes to keep you warm while spinning in the freezing cold?

These look nice biggrin


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Kyrian
Dreamer
Location: York, England
Member Since: 15th Mar 2002
Total posts: 4308
Posted:I don't know why thats on this thread firepoise... but those weird ski-suit thingys people wear when they ski (Too bad I don't know names heh i'm useless!) come in all kinds of colours and patterns and are quite warm. And, er, also quite skin tight, which means you can wear stuff over them if you so desire, or, not tongue

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UCOF
UCOF

Carpal \'Tunnel

Member Since: 17th Apr 2002
Total posts: 15414
Posted:Written by: MCP
I would rather just classify them by country, lump them all together and make blatent stereotypes of them. When I meet somebody I then forget all of these stereotypes because each person is individual, and they need individual stereotypes, like mutant-chested smurf boy.



i would add that I consider meeting someone, the same as chatting to them on HOP.
But thats exactly what I feel too in all honesty.

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Durbs
Durbs

Classically British
Location: Epsom, Surrey, England
Member Since: 23rd Sep 2001
Total posts: 5688
Posted:*takes his clothes off and runs round going "Woo hoo!" like Daffy Duck*

That cleared that up smile


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Spinner of poi
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simian
simian

110% MONKEY EVERY TIME ALL THE TIME JUST CANT STOP THE MONKEY
Location: London
Member Since: 11th Oct 2002
Total posts: 3149
Posted:has anyone noticed the dramatic increase in oldskool hoppers post whoring since the post counts got removed?

"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."

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ado-p
ado-p

Pirate Ninja
Location: Galway/Ireland
Member Since: 13th May 2004
Total posts: 3882
Posted:Yep,

Though i put it down to all the pheromones released at the various spinny gatherings.

Arashi is clearly in love with meg wink


Love is the law.

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strugz
strugz

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Southampton - Possibly...
Member Since: 6th Mar 2002
Total posts: 3964
Posted:ubblol

/end whoring wink


"...We don't stop playing because we get old, we get old because we stop playing......."

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simian
simian

110% MONKEY EVERY TIME ALL THE TIME JUST CANT STOP THE MONKEY
Location: London
Member Since: 11th Oct 2002
Total posts: 3149
Posted:End the whoring? No!

That wasn't criticism, it was a joyous observation ubblol


"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."

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strugz
strugz

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Southampton - Possibly...
Member Since: 6th Mar 2002
Total posts: 3964
Posted:oh......... in that case....



biggrin



lets contunue then.........



so Arishi loves Meg ...........



shes going to be thrilled to hear it, im going home shortly to pick her up and go for a spin before dropping her to the airport........ ill be sure to pass on this fine news ubblol


"...We don't stop playing because we get old, we get old because we stop playing......."

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UCOF
UCOF

Carpal \'Tunnel

Member Since: 17th Apr 2002
Total posts: 15414
Posted:can you pass on a hug from me to her please?
Then take one for yourself too.

kiss


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strugz
strugz

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Southampton - Possibly...
Member Since: 6th Mar 2002
Total posts: 3964
Posted:kiss

consider it done dude hug

twice!


"...We don't stop playing because we get old, we get old because we stop playing......."

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arashi
arashi

Pooh-Bah
Location: austin,tx
Member Since: 21st Mar 2002
Total posts: 2363
Posted:meg is well aware she can love me for a starting rate of $20 depending on inflation rates and gold fluctuations.

-Such a price the gods exact for song: to become what we sing
-Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty.
-When the center of the storm does not move, you are in its path.

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Durbs
Durbs

Classically British
Location: Epsom, Surrey, England
Member Since: 23rd Sep 2001
Total posts: 5688
Posted:In fairness - I think old skoolers are just happy to post whore when they know a thread has lost the point and is probably going to sink into oblivion.

There's a little newbie in all of us.

(3 in 2Bags's case - the police have been called)


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bluecat
bluecat

geek, level 1
Location: everywhere
Member Since: 15th Dec 2002
Total posts: 5300
Posted:goddamn! $20!

you OWE me! to think i gave you $550 and got so little REAL love!


Holistic Spinner (I hope)

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ado-p
ado-p

Pirate Ninja
Location: Galway/Ireland
Member Since: 13th May 2004
Total posts: 3882
Posted:awwwww...

Uberlove

ubblove


Love is the law.

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