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i've searched through the old threads and have not found any that clearly explain what anti spin is, if anyone could explain it or redirect me to a thread it would greatly appreciated
Basu gasu bakuhatsu - because sometimes buses explode
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To do antispin flowers- move your arms forward as if you were swimming freestyle. However, the glowsticks should be rotating backwards as if you were doing reverse.
For reverse antispin flowers- Your arms are rotating backwards like reverse or backstroke, but the glowsticks are rotating foward.
Hope that helps.
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but what is antispin?
Basu gasu bakuhatsu - because sometimes buses explode
1,584 posts
Location: Angels Landing, USA
That's anti spin... Your arms going one way and the poi going the other.
To do: More Firedrums 08 video?
Wildfire/US East coast fire footage
LA/EDC glow/fire footage
Fresno fire
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so antispin weave would be poi moving in forward weave while your hands do reverse weave pattern,
thanks i think i understand now
old hand
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Location: Behind you...
I understand the concept, but... well... How?! Arms forwards while poi backwards... If I go out and try this later, will it make more sense? It sounds really hard to do! Any tips on how to pull it off?
Idolized by Aurinoko
Take me disappearing through the smoke rings of my mind....
Bob Dylan
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Location: South Wales
tug *really* hard....
Pooh-Bah
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Location: Canada
It feels really clumsy at first, try it with one poi...keep your body facing forward. and your arms straight. Keep your planes straight, don't do an artistic impression of a satellite dish.
Also try arms backwards with poi forwards...good luck
with added berries
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Location: Manchester, England (UK)
how on earth do you do that! waaay too advanced for me! Live like there is no tomorrow,
dance like nobody is watching
and hula hoop like wiggling will save the world.
“What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us.”
Ralph Waldo Emerson
Pooh-Bah
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Location: Canada
The artistic impression of a satellite dish? that's just me being a smart ass, what I meant was * pay attention to your planes* keep them flat.
Nice big flat circles
This is where I see most people blow this pattern, their planes go all strange, mostly because their arms are not moving in a big circle, more like a half circle when the poi is in front of their body, and when the poi gets behind,,,,,that's when the problems happen. There's a * weak spot* back there and working with one poi will help strengthen it. 162 posts
Location: Springfield, MA - USA
Here's a question... where exactly in At The Bottom Of A Cliff are antispins? I'm still not sure exactly which move they are...
Shawn
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Hey Shawn. Judging from your old vids im sure you would be able to do them, or atleast just learn them straight off.
Its pretty much an isolation, im guessing iso's with yoyo would be pretty tricky so ill just talk about poi.
If you say, just spin 1 poi in you right hand in a forward motion and isolate it really tight, it will get to a poi'nt
when it should feel like its floating. At that point (or at any point really) you can move your hand in the reverse motion (spinning backwards) while the poi keeps going forward. (fig 8 is specially good for understanding the movement)I think u got that point already huh?
Usually i "flip" it so it starts spining forward and immediatly move my hand backwards. Anyway, thats the most basic description i can give, like others have said its often done better in a flower or a weave, its not that hard, as long as you have solid flowers to begin with.
Once you nail the basic's the move is actually performed without isolation, the iso is just the "breeding ground" for ideas and motion.
If you still have trouble with it PM me an ill go and shoot a clip an send it to you.
Mostly its a growing field, it sort of messes with the physics of poi and movement. Which is why there is alot of debate going on about anti spin, because its soooo vast and challenging.
Good luck
member
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Location: kent/brum, uk
can anyone help?? if im doing a fwd weave with arms open on the RHS, i get that my right hand will then come across under my left but then does the RH poi come then come up on the inside of my right arm (buzzsaw-ish) or on the outside of my right arm???? (and is this even remotely the right path!?!)
i cdnoult blveiee taht i cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht i was rdanieg!
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Location: South Wales
"move your arms forward as if you were swimming freestyle"
If i was swimming freestyle... my arms would be doing butterfly
big and good and broken
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Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay, United Kingdom
inpsydout - the right poi follows over to the lhs and into into a buzzsaw type plane on the inside of the left arm.
with the left arm still spinning outside, the arms swap which is on top and then the left hand transitions over to the rhs under the right arm.
hope that helps (and sorry we never got to play on sunday - when you were playing, i was lying in a hammock and then later, when i was playing, you were sitting in a car)
cole. x
"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
member
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cheers, i'll give that a go. (i happened to find a stray bottle of wine which was probably my downfall, but im sure we'll meet again, the summers only just begun)
i cdnoult blveiee taht i cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht i was rdanieg!
HoP's Barman. Trapped aged 6 months
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Antispins shouldnt be done, invented by people to show off more
An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind
Give a man a fish and he'll eat 4 a day hit a man with a brick and you can have all his fish and his wife
"Will's to pretty for prison" - Simian
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Its too late, I think I can safely say Im about to lose the next 500 hours of my life!
i cdnoult blveiee taht i cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht i was rdanieg!
big and good and broken
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Written by: PyroWill
Antispins shouldnt be done, invented by people to show off more
yep, just like the 3 beat weave
standing there just holding fire poi would be rubbish
cole. x
"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
Carpal \'Tunnel
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great comeback
"...We don't stop playing because we get old, we get old because we stop playing......."
HoP's Barman. Trapped aged 6 months
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Location: Staines, United Kingdom
hmph! im going to think of a witty retort and return!
An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind
Give a man a fish and he'll eat 4 a day hit a man with a brick and you can have all his fish and his wife
"Will's to pretty for prison" - Simian
big and good and broken
7,330 posts
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay, United Kingdom
retorts become slightly less witty when they take four days to think up will...
cole. x
"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
15,417 posts
Location: South Wales
Its only been two days Cole
big and good and broken
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Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay, United Kingdom
its three innit?
my post was on the 20th and now its the 23rd...
and anyway, he still hasn't come up with anything so it'll be four before you know it
cole. x
"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
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Location: South Wales
He says he will think of a witty retort on the "21/05/05 03:33 PM"
I assumed the time started then
HoP's Barman. Trapped aged 6 months
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Location: Staines, United Kingdom
witty retort on the way hmmm
An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind
Give a man a fish and he'll eat 4 a day hit a man with a brick and you can have all his fish and his wife
"Will's to pretty for prison" - Simian
HoP's Barman. Trapped aged 6 months
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Location: Staines, United Kingdom
i give up, cole i bow down to your wittyness, untill we meet again,
*will hits self destruct and jumps into escape pod*
An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind
Give a man a fish and he'll eat 4 a day hit a man with a brick and you can have all his fish and his wife
"Will's to pretty for prison" - Simian
big and good and broken
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Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay, United Kingdom
for willcos i love it when someone helps me make jon look silly
how many days has it been now jon...?
just because i'm psychic, it doesn't make me wrong
cole. x
"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
15,417 posts
Location: South Wales
wait a minute..
Cole.. you dont make me look silly unless you are standing next to me
PyroWill - 21/05/05 03:33 PM - "hmph! im going to think of a witty retort and return! "
Coleman - 23/05/05 04:21 PM - "retorts become slightly less witty when they take four days to think up will... "
That still looks like 2 days to me
Not 4
but it is 4 days now.
and not then
big and good and broken
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Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay, United Kingdom
i never said "it has been four days already, how long does it take to think up a witty retort?"
i referred to the actual retort which was yet to be made and hence, i made a prediction that it would take four days from the time that my comment was made before will came up with said retort.
i added that when (and if) he did, it would seem less witty because of the time delay between my comment and his retort to it.
in fact, even if there had been a comeback, it would almost not qualify as a retort since 'retort' is defined as "a quick incisive reply, especially one that turns the first speaker's words to his or her own disadvantage".
that's my argument and i'm sticking to it
cole. x
"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
15,417 posts
Location: South Wales
I think we need an idependant inquirey into both:
a) Whether Mr Cole(man) or myself is correct, or even if we are both correct.
b) The location of the topic of this thread. It seems to have been misplaced aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaages ago.
It needs to be like the Hutton enquirey, but I think that Malcolm should settle the dispute, so why not call it "The Mutton Report"?
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