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Member Since: 29th Jan 2005
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Posted:Hey,

I've been spinning for just a little while now (since Xmas), but have noticed that most people, when using poi at night go for either the glowsticking option, the fire option, or have a groovy (but not cheap) set of electro glow poi, LED ones or something along those lines.

Most people, myself included, seem to have learnt on sock poi (which are perfect for the purpose), but these have the fairly important diminution that you can't use them at night. I haven't been spinning long enough to really be looking to buy some of the more expensive poi of this ilk (though I'm starting to prowl the streets for a good set of LED ones), but most of the spinning I do is when I get home from uni, or at the gathering at Glebe on Thursday nights - both night-time spin sessions. As a result, I've been using a set of Sock Poi of thin material (with gravel in the end for weight - and to teach me not to make mistakes wink) with a glow stick slid down inside. What's interested me is that I really haven't seen anyone else doing this - is it because there is some intangible taboo about mixing glow and poi? Are glow sticks too expensive for the amateur like myself? Does the radiant light from the glow stick emit unseen gamma radiation which will turn me into a wizened and carcinogenic old crone in a few years time?

Anyway, the sort of point of this thread (if anything this tangential can be said to have a point) was to mention the mini-glowsticks I've been using for this purpose. I've recently left a summer job at a fishing tackle store (ugh, retail) where they sold mini glowsticks to be used for fishing deep water at night for various animals with eyes bigger than their heads. Anyway, these mini glowsticks are about $2-$3 each and are between about 50 and 75mm long, but give out a bright glow and are the perfect size to be used in sock poi to give them a bit of light for night spinning. I don't know if people have seen these before (I've had a few people surprised that glowsticks come so small), but I personally have found them massively useful and wondered if anyone else has used these, or whether they're still primarily the domain of the fisherman poi-spinner. If you're interested, PM me and I'll try and find purchase details.


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ImmortalAngel
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Location: Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
Member Since: 19th Jan 2004
Total posts: 578
Posted:I do this as well if I want to use my socks while glowing, but I usually have slow sticks on my chains as well as on shoelaces (in the spirit of the glowstick of course), so I'll have 3 sets of glowy poi. I'm working on getting some beamers for the chains though.

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Pooh-Bah
Location: Philadelphia, PA - USA
Member Since: 27th Mar 2003
Total posts: 2109
Posted:I, too, have put glow sticks in socks. Works really well if your socks are made of the right material that lets light through. I have found something better for this though... The led sticks sold in HoP's shop. They're just about the same price as your average glow stick, glow just as bright, but last a lot longer and you can turn them off whenever youre not using them.

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Gnarly Cranium
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Location: San Francisco
Member Since: 16th Feb 2005
Total posts: 186
Posted:You could use just about anything really. In fact a sock would be great to combine with LED sticks, since you could include some kind of translucent padding material in there to make them less lethal, and it'd spread out the light.

People spin anything. As long as it's not a live animal or something sharp, I don't think there are any prejudices to be had. (although I did see a site that recommended sock poi with hamsters or kittens in em biggrin )


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Pooh-Bah
Location: Philadelphia, PA - USA
Member Since: 27th Mar 2003
Total posts: 2109
Posted:Whos got the pics of squirrel poi and those crazy spiked/knife poi someone made?

Hehe, those were classic.


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We'll blaze a new trail,
and torch the rough patches.

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Mr_Chutney
Mr_Chutney

Tosser
Location: Herefordshire
Member Since: 18th Apr 2003
Total posts: 1711
Posted:I attached a few of the LED superbright keyrings to my socks with really good results- I clipped them inside and pused the LED bulbs through the socks at the head end, and wove another into the handles so I could see waht I was doing for catches. They were a little fragile (the bulbs disappeared inside occasionally) but generally worked really well smile

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onewheeldave
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Location: sheffield
Member Since: 28th Aug 2002
Total posts: 3252
Posted:Have a look at this page showing how to make very cheap and easy, but extremely nice looking, LED glo-sox: -

http://www.geocities.com/combatunicycle/electrosock/electrosock.html
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Good thing about these is that they're a lot cheaper to run than using chemical sticks, and they take advantage of the directionality of the LEDs to light up the length of the sock.

(Incidently, when I put up that page I did so in the spirit of passing on a useful toy to the spinning community and asked, in return, that if anyone could see a way to cheaply and easily add some kind of basic strobe to the effect, to let me know and I could then add it to the page.

So, do let me know if anyone can help with that).


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But you can make the Bastard work for it."

--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
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spritie
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Location: Galveston, TX
Member Since: 9th Sep 2001
Total posts: 2014
Posted:People often switch to some form of permanent glowy poi for cost reasons. If you plan on spinning for any length of time (not per session, but months or years) than it certainly is more economical to purchase some form of led poi or battery operated. Like you've said, each glowstick you purchase is about $2-3, which can add up VERY quickly. At least that's my reason for having something other than glowstick poi.

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Dunc
Dunc

playing the days away
Location: The Middle lands
Member Since: 19th Aug 2003
Total posts: 7263
Posted:There's certainly to 'taboo' about combining glow with sock.

Personally, I chopped off the end of my socks and added some silk instead, many people have used nets, the ones from the persil washin powder. Put some glowy juggling balls inside and away you go.

Daves geocities page looks like a very good way to do it cheaply smile


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mech
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Location: "In your ear"
Member Since: 9th Jun 2003
Total posts: 6207
Posted:YEY for onewheeldave hammer head poi biggrin

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nearly_all_gone

Pooh-Bah
Location: Southampton
Member Since: 3rd Aug 2004
Total posts: 1626
Posted:Tights.. tights? They let a lot of light through, but are perhaps a bit too stretchy to be reliably spun..

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Stout
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Pooh-Bah
Location: Canada
Member Since: 12th May 2004
Total posts: 1872
Posted:I bought these soft spiky balls with LEDs in them, they flash but I put four of them in the toe of a pair of tights ( I was thinking white fishnets,,,but I couldn't find any ) tied off the end and cut off the excess fabric. I attached them to my poi chains but,,,,they do stretch, enough to be an annoyance. I like the plastic netting idea, and I'm keeping my eyes open for some. The total cost worked out to about 10 USD, mind you I did swipe the tights from my wife

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And all that's jazz
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Location: just behind your left shoulder
Member Since: 29th Jan 2005
Total posts: 92
Posted:Thanks for all the advice on the cheap LED ones! I am looking to buy (or make, thanks onewheeldave!) a good set of LED ones to minimise the cost of the glowies, the main reason I've used them so far is I get them at staff prices for 60c rather than the marked $2.95 wink. I do like the other ideas for things to do as a substitute for glow sticks, shall have to give them a shot at some stage.

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Nucleopoi
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chemical attraction
Location: Ilkeston, Derbyshire, England
Member Since: 6th Nov 2004
Total posts: 1097
Posted:never tried that.i generally use fire and i also have a set of aerotech meteors.

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Posted:*totally off topic*

-RT ln K = H - TS?

That's the formula for Gibbs' free energy right? Argh, start back at uni on 7th, 3 months of retail work has destroyed my Chemistry knowledge. *curls into foetal position and cries quietly whilst cuddling up to a bottle of nitrous oxide* wink


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ImmortalAngel
Scientist!
Location: Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
Member Since: 19th Jan 2004
Total posts: 578
Posted:Written by: onewheeldave

Have a look at this page showing how to make very cheap and easy, but extremely nice looking, LED glo-sox: -

http://www.geocities.com/combatunicycle/electrosock/electrosock.html
br>
Good thing about these is that they're a lot cheaper to run than using chemical sticks, and they take advantage of the directionality of the LEDs to light up the length of the sock.

(Incidently, when I put up that page I did so in the spirit of passing on a useful toy to the spinning community and asked, in return, that if anyone could see a way to cheaply and easily add some kind of basic strobe to the effect, to let me know and I could then add it to the page.

So, do let me know if anyone can help with that).



I'd like to thank Dave for this design smile It works like a charm for me (although I'm using AAA batteries right now because they didn't carry 2 AA battery cases -.- they carried 1, 4 and 8...)
I've got a pair of electro-diffusing glow sock poi -.- such a long name mate... ubbidea
I've got a pair of Hammerhead Version 2 sock poi here with me now. It was a bit more expensive than I figured a fiver would translate over to, but it might be because I tried to buy a switch for it as well, only to realise that 1) I didn't have all the stuff I needed for the hammer head ones, and 2) it was a momentary contact switch (aka, I'd need to hold it down). Either way, not a bad use for $15 (I also bought really good batteries -.-)


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thor
thor

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Location: Portland, Oregon
Member Since: 19th Feb 2004
Total posts: 181
Posted:...or you could just get a couple of really big black lights (ala Burnt Toast - Glow (sekzee)) and spin white socks without glowsticks

Lights dancing off my skin as chains wrap round it.
Pain is in a little box and I'm so glad I found it.

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anonomatos
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Location: Utrecht [NL]
Member Since: 19th Jan 2005
Total posts: 389
Posted:yeah, or you could just but a stroboscope in a sock :/

the ledpoi hammerhead is a good one... might be building some ledpoi too these days


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ImmortalAngel
Scientist!
Location: Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
Member Since: 19th Jan 2004
Total posts: 578
Posted:Just a helpful tip here...
Remember, never solder your LEDs to the battery case...especially while there is batteries in it, and the circuit is complete wink
I just blew up my batteries, halfway melted the case, and burnt my lip -.-
I had the circuit completed to make sure it was conenected as I soldered it. I took my sweet time in soldering and didn't notice the batteries over heating...and by over heating I mean getting to the point of melting the plastic casing -.-
No worries though, I'm ordering my beamers on Monday, and should get them in 2-3 weeks biggrin


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onewheeldave
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Location: sheffield
Member Since: 28th Aug 2002
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Posted:I'll just point out that neither of the sock poi designs I put up use any soldering, so there's no dangers of exploding batteries with them.

Cheers for sharing your experience immortalangel- it's not something I was aware could happen- it's useful when people post stuff like that.


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But you can make the Bastard work for it."

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Location: Great Malvern [UK]
Member Since: 9th Dec 2003
Total posts: 1174
Posted:On the topic of finding something to replace the socks (something a little more translucent / strong / not stretchy), has anyone else thought of using rip-stop nylon? It's pretty cheap from kite shops and making a cone to fit a tennis ball or similar isn't a huge amount of work smile

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