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Forums > Other Toys > Chinse monkeyfist meteor............ Do anybody use them?? If so how??

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Jeunau
BRONZE Member since Mar 2017

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Location: england, devon, exeter

Total posts: 14
Posted:i really want to know how to use them. help help

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UCOF
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Posted:By which he means these.

:o)

3 posts? Thats newbie enough not to get shouted at.

Try clicking here and trawling through the search results.

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ataxia
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ataxia

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Location: Melbourne

Total posts: 172
Posted:Yeah I use them. They are quite hard in both the skill and physical sense.
I've been practicing with them for about 2 months and i'm really getting much better now. The first few weeks are really quite frustrating, and after that it's just mildly frustrating.
I've bought both shin guards and a groin protector. Trust me you need it. I've only saved myself about 5 times with the groin protector, but that's 4 dollars well spent. The shin guards allow me to alleviate shins full of bruises, meaning I can actually wear shorts without people thinking i'm suffering child abuse or i'm a haemopheliac.
The poi stuff with the meteor is relatively easy but that's not the trick with meteor spinning. The staff'ish stuff with the meteor is a hard skill to learn.
It's really not possible to give advice over the internet. I will endeavour to make a video of what I currently know (just really the basics) and post it on my member gallery. For now my only advice is to concentrate on controlling and leading with one end of the meteor, the back end basically just follows. When passing and turning, back sure your controlling the leading end. I've yet to find a way to control the following side, if I grab it the circle collapses.


Geez, I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous.

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[Nx?]
BRONZE Member since Mar 2017

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Location: Europe,Scotland,Both

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Posted:yes.

basic techique:

Flail & Duck.

Advanced technique:

Put on fire, Flail & Duck

theres other stuff, but untill youve done a month of flailing and ducking there aint much point going into it.

the old site had a sh*t hot metior thread, but its gone now frown

oh and shorten yopur metiors, probibly.

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ataxia
SILVER Member since Mar 2004

ataxia

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Location: Melbourne

Total posts: 172
Posted:The only problem with shortening the meteor is that it's harder to do the poi based moves involving spinning with the heads of the meteor on each side of the body. (6 foot meteor has roughly 3 foot of rope length to hold, 1.5 foot to spin on both sides.) Same side spinning is easy (eg weaves) Maybe it's just my preference.
It is a meteor though, and not poi, so feel free to shorten.


Geez, I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous.

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Jeunau
BRONZE Member since Mar 2017

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Location: england, devon, exeter

Total posts: 14
Posted:thanks for your posts. my meteors are about 6 foot long and strch when using to about a foot wich i quite frighting. ive hit myself many a time in the groin with my meteor. t5haks

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[Nx?]
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Posted:ubblol ubblol ubblol ubblol

he said groin ubblol

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ataxia
SILVER Member since Mar 2004

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Location: Melbourne

Total posts: 172
Posted:Yes, yes it's always funny when someone else gets hit. wink

Geez, I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous.

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BrassMonkey


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Location: Melbourne

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Posted:Just a small, maybe pointless note, because I love talking about meteor.

There is one move, or group of moves, that poses the greatest threat to your groin, and your future generations : The one-handed butterfly.

The best advice when doing this is to stand side-on, until youve got it solid. Actually, the one-handed butterfly is risky with monkey-fist meteor because if you do it with nice planes, then the fists will definitely bash into each other, or tangle around each other and fly directly downwards towards your groin. But with a butterfly, no-one will notice if your planes are a bit dodgy, unless theyre looking side-on.

I never wore groin protection, and after about 6 months of meteoring I got a kind of 6th sense for when the meteor was about to collide with that most painful of places. Still, there are many things I wouldn


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Twirly


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Posted:Yeah, the most important skill is realising when you've lost control and either throwing it away or finding out how to kill it safely.

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darkpoet
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Posted:hahahaha...thats how i got my concussion from my beamers...i was using them at the end of my chain (i do meteor)...by the way... a good length for a meteor is the span of ones arms from fingertip to finger tip..+ or - a few inches..
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Posted:erm, I totally disagree..I don't think there is really a 'proper' length for meteors, truth be told. It all depends on what you want to do with it. I know someone who uses ~16ft meteors, involves alot of horizontal work and rope dart style throws/wraps. That's a really short length you're describing dere, doesnt give you much play for most moves. I'm sure it works for you tho wink

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darkpoet
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Posted:basically just find what feels right for you...i like mine short...

and musashii...
16ft is F$**@N insane!.....


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ataxia
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Posted:When they're too long, you cant pass it behind the back or do between the leg variations without hitting the ground. I like a comprimise in length, long enough to enable poi type moves, and short enough to not hit the ground on moves as described above.

Geez, I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous.

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Posted:I've found about a foot or foot anna half over my height works for me, I use the same kind of measure for length as you Ataxia, meaning normally I find the right length by the moves I want to do wink

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ataxia
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Posted:I don't generally do the poi based moves with the meteor, it's really not the fun part of meteor. However, it's great to have the option.

Geez, I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous.

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ataxia
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Location: Melbourne

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Posted:I've posted some beginner meteor vids on my member gallery:
http://www.homeofpoi.com/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=7009
br>There's not a huge range of tricks, but I hope it helps anyone.


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mr_guy99493


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Location: NSW Australia

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Posted:Im going to build some meteor sometime soon.

I figure some monkeyfist knots will do.
7' has been suggested as a good length for the meteor, but i was wondering how heavy the rope, and each end of the meteor should be.
Uhm, no need for exact weights, but should i have heavy rope, heavy ends, or light rope with heavy ends. Bout how heavy should each bit be??


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darkpoet
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Posted:bout a kilo each works for strength training and for rigid moves....the more weight on the ends..the more rigid the rope while spinning

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onewheeldave
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Posted:
If you're using climbing rope then knotting monkey fists with 3 wraps (bights) will generally give a good weight.

Remember that monkey fists use a lot of rope; to make my last set of rope meteors I needed a rope 3 spans (outstretched finger tips to finger tips) long- a span for the length of the final meteor plus a span for each of the knots.

The ends need to be heavy relative to the weight of the rope/cord.

So, for example, I also made a nice set of meteors with lightweight chain for which unweighted tennis balls made really good ends.

Another factor is length- the longer your meteors are, the more weight you'll need on the ends.

A nice thing about using climbing rope is that you can err on the long side, then use simple overhand knots to shorten it and experiement with the length.


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Posted:what the best rope to use to make your own?

I'm going to leave the army and run away to the circus

if not i will just become a MI5 agent !!!

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Brainchile
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Posted:Monkey fists are awesome!

I made both of mine with old retired climbing ropes. At about 5'7" I use one that's close to 8 feet and another that's about 6 . . .

I think the best moves are often the ones that utilise the full length and don't have all the crazy flailing going on. I like to use one end and do wraps instead of having two even length sides. Check out wushu movies sites for monkey fist demos. I'm a big fan of things like neck wraps (which are ridiculously easy to learn once you decide it's ok for you to wrap a rope around your neck).

Also does anyone know what the kevlar fire rope is like to spin? I've only used my nylon ones (obviously no good for fire) and I was thinking of making a set of fire monkeyfists from the 10mm kevlar rope.


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ataxia
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ataxia

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Location: Melbourne

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Posted:I'm just in the process of getting the guys at HOP to make me up a set of fire meteors. You cant really make the whole thing out of kevlar because the fire will burn the area of kevlar with no fuel. Eg if you dip just the wicks then just near the wick it will break. If you dip further along it will burn further in.
It won't happen straight away but it will happen. (Isn't that a pantene add?)
I'm toying with the idea of nylon inner rope, chains of about 10-20cms then a normal poi style monkey fist wick. (both ends of course)
I think the style of meteor your describing is like rope dart although isn't it called meteor hammer on those chinese weapons sites?
The best guys at rope dart seem to have a massive length of rope (8 foot or more) too long for the meteor i'm used to. But that's personal preference.


Geez, I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous.

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Mr_Chutney
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Posted:I've made a 6ft meteor with monkeyfists at each end- have been playing with it a bit from time to time when other toys get dull- its a really nice and different thing to experimnet with- the length is a revelation after playing with poi (and relatively short poi at that).

Still a n00b with it though smile


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