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Cantus
Cantus

Tantamount to fatuity
Location: Down the road
Member Since: 30th Jul 2001
Total posts: 15965
Posted:Today I have mostly been considering whether or not I want to keep visiting this site.



I used to love coming here and would spent great lengths of time trawling through the pages looking for interesting things to do and people that looked lost that I could try to help out. I liked the fact that people seemed to genuinely like me and paid attention to things that I said. I loved the fact that people seemed to actually enjoy my sense of humour and general style of aimless banter.



Plus I liked to try and help out the site by looking out for potential troublemakers and/or HoPpers who were in need of help from senior members of the HoP team. And pointing people in the right direction.

I was always under the impression that Malcolm and the mods were happy about me doing this (as they often sent me encouraging emails to that end).

But it seems I was misguided in this belief as a senior member of the admin team chastised me the other night for doing just that.

This makes me reluctant to try and help now. I dont want to upset any one obviously. I just always thought I was helping



And its little things like that that started me thinking that I maybe dont want to post on here anymore.



Theres a lot more reasons than that but I dont want to upset individual people (why should anyone but me be p!ssed off wouldnt be very fair now would it)



Suffice to say that its a whole load of little things that, I guess, shouldnt bother me. But just lately they do.



The really annoying thing is that I know whos going to reply to this thread and what theyre going to say. [I]And I also know whos going to refrain from posting because I of what Ive just written in this paragraph.[/I]



I think Im just tired/lonely/grumpy/etc



Feel free to ignore me. I would if it were you posting this tongue





Cantus J Fraggle


"I'll carry this....It's harder to spill a hat" - Chellybean
"...like a rabbit caught in a lighthouse?" - Chellybean

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Cantus
Cantus

Tantamount to fatuity
Location: Down the road
Member Since: 30th Jul 2001
Total posts: 15965
Posted:ps I really dont like the word "whore"! I find it deeply offensive (even if it is said in jest).

"I'll carry this....It's harder to spill a hat" - Chellybean
"...like a rabbit caught in a lighthouse?" - Chellybean

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MiG
MiG

Self-Flagellation Expert
Location: Bogged at CG
Member Since: 16th Apr 2004
Total posts: 3415
Posted:who says people dont enjoy your random, almost-always-funny comments here, there and everywhere?



And, i daresay its a possibility that the admin member may have just been in a bad mood as well, hence the snappyness.



did you know i would write, and that i would ask if you knew if i'd write? or that if i asked if i wrote and you knew i was going to write, and that i was going to ask if you knew i was going to write, then why not just say at the bottom 'and MiG, i know you're going to ask me if i knew oyu were going to write'. but then, i probably wouldnt ask if you knew i was going to write if you said that you knew i was going to...damn. im lost again. ubbloco



Edit: WOO! i got in first. kinda. well, not really, but yay anyway ubbrollsmile


"beg beg grovel beg grovel"
"master"
--FSA

"There was an arse there, i couldn't help myself"
--Rougie

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Mags The Jedi
Mags The Jedi

Fool
Location: Cornwall, UK
Member Since: 30th May 2004
Total posts: 2020
Posted:Oh come now, whore is one of my favourite words for myself! ubblol

Sorry to hear you're having second thoughts about remaining part of this little madhouse. I for one would miss you if you stopped posting, and I'm sure many others would feel the same.

Think of this: On a site with over ten thousand members, should you expect to get on with everyone all the time?

devil


"I believe the cost of life is Death and we will all pay that in full. Everything else should be a gift. We paid the cover charge of life, we were born."

Bill Hicks, February 1988

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MiG
MiG

Self-Flagellation Expert
Location: Bogged at CG
Member Since: 16th Apr 2004
Total posts: 3415
Posted:now, on a more serious note, you, c@ntus, along with a couple of the other members, have been the guides for me (and i daresay many a n00b) in the general ettiquite for this forum, for forums in general, who to ask for what and where they are.

you, evidently, are a pretty good bloke. if i hadnt seen dozens of helpy posts about the place, what you said in that one above would have shown me that. forums in general need more people like you, that sit down and write more than three words in response to someone that asked 'what's good music to spin to?'

Also, i think it's somewhat natural to think about having a break after doing something for ages, and you've been here over three years now.


"beg beg grovel beg grovel"
"master"
--FSA

"There was an arse there, i couldn't help myself"
--Rougie

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simian
simian

110% MONKEY EVERY TIME ALL THE TIME JUST CANT STOP THE MONKEY
Location: London
Member Since: 11th Oct 2002
Total posts: 3149
Posted:Written by: Cantus
But it seems I was misguided in this belief as a senior member of the admin team chastised me the other night for doing just that.



just that? confused

forgive me if i doubt it was entirely that simple.



post whore can be a really insulting term, and i winced when i saw it -

unjustly, though at the same time understandably

- applied to you a few times recently.



Funnily enough i've just spent much of this evening discussing why your posts have not, at any point that i've seen, merely been for increasing your post count.



but thats not the point. Point of this thread is whether you want to stay or not.



erm... which is entirely up to you... so maybe it's not the point of this thread.



maybe its just another of those "HOP isn't like it used to be" threads you see from time to time



which are just a way of letting off steam, and maybe kicking people back into being a bit nicer.



or maybe this is your genuine swansong. i doubt it.



for what it's worth i'd miss your presence. i've enjoyed you being around recently. although my posts have got a lot blunter and less sugar coated as a result.

(just like when i've been reading too much bender i go all lateral)



oh yeah. obligatory soppy graemlins: hug ubblove wink


"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."

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Mysterio - Lord Of Confusion
member
Location: I came from somewhere of this ...
Member Since: 23rd Mar 2003
Total posts: 65
Posted:I like whores, but you have to go all the way to france to eat one.

"Thats very confusing"

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andythepoi
andythepoi

addict
Location: manchester, uk
Member Since: 4th Jun 2004
Total posts: 508
Posted:cantus i know we aint ever officially been introduced or anything but i like reading your posts a lot....they are often funny/and or informative n creative too and i would be sorry to see you go.

obviously its up to you and i'm not trying to influence your decision or anything especially when i dont know any of the specifics but i thought sincerely telling ya that even people ya dont know would miss ya if ya were to leave might cheer ya up just a wee bit.

see ya around



ps...under normal circumstances i dont like the word "whore" either...and would never call anyone that in spite or use it in general conversation....but oooooooooooh man is it a good word to use in bed now n again with a lass who likes that kinda thing...its a top word then! hehe


It's smashing to be back x

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Psycho_lemming
Psycho_lemming

Running hippy spinning lemming
Location: Scotland
Member Since: 16th Jul 2004
Total posts: 15
Posted:ditto

maybe now is a good time to say wave
i too like reading your posts,
if you were to leave, HOP would miss you...

PS... this isnt just an attempt to cheer you up (but maybe it will anyway) but i took a look at your artwork (hope you dont mind) and tis very good - i esp liked the badgers! sorry for being nosey smile


Fear leads to anger; anger leads to hate; hate leads to suffering...

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Wyrd Sister
Wyrd Sister

member
Location: Wellington, NZ
Member Since: 19th Sep 2004
Total posts: 53
Posted:Noooooo, don't go eek frown
Tis your choice and if you do, know that you will be missed. I know I'm only new here, but it's rare to meet someone with a mind like yours - oo, does this mean I should be afraid??

Besides, you haven't posted your Wellington photo's yet...


What we play is life. -- Louis Armstrong
Communism doesn't work because people like to own stuff. -- Frank Zappa

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Spanner
Spanner

remembers when it was all fields round here
Location: in the works... somewhere...
Member Since: 27th Feb 2003
Total posts: 2790
Posted:As you already knew I was going to post and what I was going to say, I'll save us all some time...

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No I won't wink You're not getting out of it that easily tongue

I left earlier this year (I think you were still on your travels at the time) for similar, if not exactly identical reasons as yourself.

As previously mentioned by Mags: "On a site with over ten thousand members, should you expect to get on with everyone all the time?" I would say no, but also that this includes admins and moderator members as well.

Despite this, my view is: if you think something isn't right, you should still say so. HoP isn't what it used to be: I'm hardly one of the old-school myself, but it is different even from when I first joined. But leaving is unlikely to make it better, because most of HoP is what we make it.


wave


"I thought you are man, but
you are nice woman.

yay,

:R"

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Posted:Hope you keep visiting!!!!

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flash fire
flash fire

Sporadically Prodigal
Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia
Member Since: 25th Jan 2001
Total posts: 2758
Posted:wtf is going on here Cantus?? Obvioulsy, I'm outta the loop on something major, but dude... c'mon! We've been through stacks on this virtual space together. Don't go now. *gets that ancient rat cat song in her head*

As a mod, I fully appreciate your notifications. I certainly don't have enough time to review all the active threads regularly and more often than not, your notifications alert me to something that really needs mod/ admin attention, and I thank you for that.

Hope that you stay.


HoP Posting Guidelines
Is it the Truth?
Is it Fair to all concerned?
Will it build Goodwill and Better Friendships?
Will it be Beneficial to all concerned?
If you can answer YES to these 4 questions then you may post a reply.

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Puk
Puk

Sweet talented nutter
Location: Brisbane Oz
Member Since: 3rd Aug 2002
Total posts: 2615
Posted:Mr fraggle ? i always appreciated your sense of humor .
Puk looks around for lurker's.

And futher more who will poke fun at me now (pouts here)


that shrewd and knavish sprite

Called Robin Good Fellow ; are you not he that is frighten of the maidens of the villagery - fairy

I am the merry wander of the night -puk

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gita
gita

.:*distracted by shiny things*:.
Location: brizvegas
Member Since: 13th Oct 2003
Total posts: 3776
Posted:noooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! c@ntus you can't leave!!! eek

we'll miss you too much! it would be so wierd trawling the corridors of hop without you jumping out from behind a door somewhere to rid the world of evil! (or just scare the pants off some unsuspecting sucker!) ubblol

seriously though - like someone else *too lazy to go back and look* said - on a site with this many members you can't expect to please everyone! i'm sure i've pissed somebody off somewhere on here! but it's the nature of the beast! this many people from all over the world?? they're SO not all gonna get along all the time!! smile

please stay c@ntus!

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do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and good to eat!

if at first you do succeed, try not to look too astonished!

smile! grin it confuses people!

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Gidg
Gidg

Super Gidg!!!!
Location: Portland Oregon USA
Member Since: 11th Apr 2003
Total posts: 8506
Posted:C@ntus, there isn't anything that I can say that hasn't already been said. I know that the decision is totally yours but I would miss you if you left.

And besides, I'm finally spelling your name right.


Growing old is mandatory; growing up is NOT.
Proud member of the HoP DPS.
Sanity is a highly overrated state of mind.
I'm normal ... it's everyone else that's crazy.

Gidg

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Malcolm
Malcolm

HOP admin
Location: HOP
Member Since: 18th Nov 2003
Total posts: 996
Posted:Cantus,

You're a great help to me and the website.
You help to make things better.
It would be sad to see you go. Both Cherry and I love reading many of your emails and posts.

We think of you lots and we appreciate your artwork in our house everyday.
But now I feel bad that we have not told you enough how much we appreciate you and your freindship.

Much respect hug

Malcolm


"May your balls always burn"

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_Aime_
_Aime_

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Hastings
Member Since: 2nd Jan 2004
Total posts: 4172
Posted:My mum thought i'd broken the computer when i cried out 'Oh no!' after i read the first line of your post smile
You can't leave, i always apreiciated being poked into the right place when i first joined, and still do now, wether it be malcolm, mod, or a humble member like you.
You can't leave - HoP loves you


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Durbs
Durbs

Classically British
Location: Epsom, Surrey, England
Member Since: 23rd Sep 2001
Total posts: 5688
Posted:
Not only would the humour value of the site be lessened by a 3rd (saved only by UCOF and Bender) - but the standard of grammar would go through the floor too! wink

hug


Burner of Toast
Spinner of poi
Slacker of enormous magnitude

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fake teeth and glue
fake teeth and glue

Checking who's online, watching you!
Location: somewhere
Member Since: 31st Aug 2003
Total posts: 1972
Posted:ahh, bet you didn't know i was gonna post.
when i first arived there was a bunch of people and you where one of them and then lots more bunches of people came and i havn't really seen many of the old bunch of people, if you leave there will be no one left.
(i apologise if there are any of the "old" bunch of people here and do not mean to be meen to anybody it's just that i probably can't remember the rest of the people or something like that)

p.s i do not mean to be meen to any newcomers.


you just lost the game!!!!!! !!!!!

knowledge is power, power corupts, study hard, become evil.

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Rouge Dragon
Rouge Dragon

Insert Champagne Here
Location: without class distinction
Member Since: 21st Jul 2003
Total posts: 13215
Posted:Others have already beaten me to what I would otherwise say. Instead I will say that while reading your post, I kept wondering, why the person I remember wearing an orange balloon top-hat could be so sad?

So I suppose that what I'm saying is that I enjoy reading your humerous posts, and it would be a real shame if they were to end!

hug


i would have changed ***** to phallus, and claire to petey Petey

Rougie: but that's what I'm doing here
Arnwyn: what letting me adjust myself in your room?..don't you dare quote that on HoP...

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NYC
NYC

NYC
Location: NYC, NY, USA
Member Since: 26th Aug 2001
Total posts: 9232
Posted:See you in hell bitch... save me a seat up front. eek

[Ha! Didn't see that one coming... well... probably of course you did.]

I'm gonna disagree with everyone else, not just cuz that's who I've become... I think the answer is within yourself. I think there are people here who would be happier people if they spent less time on HoP. But they're a bit addicted to the routine. Maybe I'm one of those people too. There's a tremendous amount of joy outside of this very grey website. Sometimes we need to venture forth from home to find things that give us light and joy.

I know there was a time when HoP gave you everything you needed buddy. And those times are no longer. And that's OK. You gotta go find what makes you smile. If it's not here, it's somewhere.

Maybe spending LESS time on HoP and commiting to find your smile or your 'mojo' or 'get your groove back' or whatever makes you giggle would be a good idea.

I've seen a very different Cantus since you've 'reappeared'. Maybe it's just a very different HoP since you've disappeared.

Pounce is no Cassandra.
UCOF is no Superman.

It's a different world in here these days. Maybe stepping back and looking for things in the real world to put your energy into would be a good idea.

I've been trying to take my own advice with that too... I do get much more joy out of hugging a friend in real life than pining over people I never get to see.

There's never any reason to blow us off completely. We'd miss you and we want to hear all of your adventures. But maybe you need to put more energy into things that will make you smile. But first you gotta find out what those things are... and that's the hardest part.

Peace and Love,
NYC


Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]

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Rozi
100 characters max...
Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia
Member Since: 11th Jan 2002
Total posts: 2996
Posted:Ummmmmm, its generally kinda predictable to find a Rozi post following an NYC post that says "I'm saying what he is saying"... but...

C@ntus, you have had a tremendous year out exploring the world. And I hope you have found many things that delighted and inspired you.

The net, and especially HoP, can often provide a safe haven at times where we need to rest and recuperate. And sometimes it puts us in touch with people like us, just at the time when we are feeling isolated. HoP has done both these things for me.

Then there are times when you don't need it so much. The outside world beckons, and sometimes the net world seems too restrictive.

There is no need to say goodbye. I haven't done. I have said, "I will see you around, and I still love you all". I visit from time to time, but right now my energies are exchanged elsewhere.

So go and paint. Or travel some more. Teach a monkey new tricks wink Or learn some yourself.

Then pop your head round the door and say "guess what I have been doing!!!"

We care about you deeply and want to see you seek out your happiness wherever it takes you. So go and seek out joy. And come back and share it with us.

hug


It was a day for screaming at inanimate objects.

What this calls for is a special mix of psychology and extreme violence...

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Pink...?
Pink...?

Mistress of Pink...Multicoloured
Location: Over There
Member Since: 6th Apr 2002
Total posts: 6140
Posted:Pretty much what i was going to say has been said above....

You'll be missed but i agree with NYC - the answer is within yourself.

I personally hope you don't go though hug


Never pick up a duck in a dungeon...

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stroo
stroo

trusty sidekick to superman
Location: oxford, england, uk
Member Since: 23rd Feb 2003
Total posts: 799
Posted:hay baby, see how many people would miss you! i would...your the one person on here that talks to me most, and your the one who made the biggest effort to get to know me when i started posting a while back.

Tis your decision, but I truely hope you stay hug

Big love


Livin' on dreams and custard creams

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Dom
Dom

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Bristol, UK
Member Since: 19th Dec 2001
Total posts: 3009
Posted:As you decided to make a public thread of this instead of just emailing or PMing me...

</font><blockquote><font class="small">Written by: C@ntus</font><hr />



But it seems I was misguided in this belief as a senior member of the admin team chastised me the other night for doing just that.





C@ntus - this is a load of censored and you're being overly melodramatic.



I did not 'chastise' you. In fact, I used the word 'appreciated' - specifically in regard to a user posting just to get a gallery. Ye, you do use the notify button a lot, which is fine as you probably read more of HoP than anyone. But some of the notifications are on old threads or multiple notifcations about one thread.



Personally, I'm not one to dress things up in cotton wool or appeal to your damaged self esteem and tell you that you shouldn't leave because there are other people to do that for me. Instead I'll be frank:



You spend too much time on Home of Poi. This is obvious from your high post count and the fact you must spend ages digging out old threads to bump. HoP is not a substitute for real life, not even a poor one. People you meet on 'HoP' are very real, but most of them are not really a part of your everyday 'real' life. Conversations and threads on HoP are not real conversations: face to face, with facial and tonal emotions.



So if you left HoP, or cut down your surfing hours and did something more vaired then in so many ways you'd probably get more out of your time.



Really the decision is yours, leave or stay. But do it for your own, real reasons.


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Dentrassi
Dentrassi

ZORT!
Location: Brisbane
Member Since: 9th Apr 2003
Total posts: 3044
Posted:nothing stays the same for ever.

you change, friends change, life changes. sometimes you move onto new things without even realising, sometimes you need to make a conscious choice about what is best for you.

birth, life, death. its one big cycle that applies to everything -relationships, hobbies etc. sometimes a fresh start is just what you need - life a midlife crisis. sometimes not - that loss of stability can be hard.
do whats best for your own peace of mind, and happiness.
hug


"Here kitty kitty...." - Schroedinger.

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NYC
NYC

NYC
Location: NYC, NY, USA
Member Since: 26th Aug 2001
Total posts: 9232
Posted:Written by: Rozi

Ummmmmm, its generally kinda predictable to find a Rozi post following an NYC post that says "I'm saying what he is saying"... but...



That is kind of funny you know. ubblove

Miss you Roz (Went looking for your intro thread but noted you don't have one...)


Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]

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andythepoi
andythepoi

addict
Location: manchester, uk
Member Since: 4th Jun 2004
Total posts: 508
Posted:Written by: Dom


But it seems I was misguided in this belief as a senior member of the admin team chastised me the other night for doing just that

this is a load of censored and you're being overly melodramatic.

I did not 'chastise' you. In fact, I used the word 'appreciated' - specifically in regard to a user posting just to get a gallery. Ye, you do use the notify button a lot, which is fine as you probably read more of HoP than anyone. But some of the notifications are on old threads or multiple notifcations about one thread.

Personally, I'm not one to dress things up in cotton wool or appeal to your damaged self esteem and tell you that you shouldn't leave because there are other people to do that for me. Instead I'll be frank:

You spend too much time on Home of Poi. This is obvious from your high post count and the fact you must spend ages digging out old threads to bump. HoP is not a substitute for real life, not even a poor one. People you meet on 'HoP' are very real, but most of them are not really a part of your everyday 'real' life. Conversations and threads on HoP are not real conversations: face to face, with facial and tonal emotions.

So if you left HoP, or cut down your surfing hours and did something more vaired then in so many ways you'd probably get more out of your time.

Really the decision is yours, leave or stay. But do it for your own, real reasons.



all i can say is if you talk to him like this in PUBLIC mate no wonder he was upset after private correspondence with you. I don't think i've seen such a judgemental, arrogant, mean spirited post anywhere on the net. Not suprised he is considering leaving if they let people like you look after us!


It's smashing to be back x

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Spanner
Spanner

remembers when it was all fields round here
Location: in the works... somewhere...
Member Since: 27th Feb 2003
Total posts: 2790
Posted:C@ntus - did you change the title to "C@ntus' public sulk - please return the pacifier to his pram on way out"? I hope so - for admin to do so would be out of order confused

First of all, I think it should be noted that C@ntus wrote: Written by:
I think Im just tired/lonely/grumpy/etc
Feel free to ignore me. I would if it were you posting this



I can see Andypoi's point, Dom. C@ntus didn't name anyone. Nor did he mention that he uses the notify button a lot. If I use the notify button, whether once or often, I wouldn't want that fact broadcast publicly. I thought that kind of information was supposed to be confidential, otherwise what's the point?

And what's wrong with bumping old threads? We're constantly being encouraged to search for old threads instead of making new ones about the same subject: why is this any different? Personally, I enjoy being reminded of the more classic threads.

I'm not sure what the probelm is with multiple notifications either. Does that mean if we notify admin about one occurence in a thread, we're not supposed to do so again if something else happens in it?

Maybe C@ntus spends too much time on HoP, maybe he doesn't. I don't know how well you two know each other, or whether he agrees with that aspect. But I think, when discussed past the point of jest, that's something for him to decide. He does have a high post count, but would you be saying the same if it was another of our higher posters concerned?

Dom, you posted the FAQ...can you honestly say it applied to your post? frown


"I thought you are man, but
you are nice woman.

yay,

:R"

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gita
gita

.:*distracted by shiny things*:.
Location: brizvegas
Member Since: 13th Oct 2003
Total posts: 3776
Posted:hug

do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and good to eat!

if at first you do succeed, try not to look too astonished!

smile! grin it confuses people!

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