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Dunc
Dunc

playing the days away
Location: The Middle lands
Member Since: 19th Aug 2003
Total posts: 7263
Posted:You know what I hate....SPAM! Not the meat, the unsolicited emails received in their thousands!!



the first email account I ever set up was my.name@provider.co.uk and over time it got spammed more and more and more. Now I decided to keep it (and apparently I'm the only person in the UK with my name so you'd think it'd not be so popular).

I never did forwarding or anything like that from it, it was my account for official stuff...you know, mailing the bank or confirming my tesco orders etc. Offical docs...you know the score.



So anyway it got so much I decided to leave it for 4 months to see how much SPAM got delivered. Within the first month it was packed to the rafters with spam so I just left it full for the remaining 3 months hoping that the spammers would give up on the address cuz it wasn't successful and they must get undelierable reports coming back all the time. So I went in and cleared out 600 of the 900 spam messages and within two weeks my account is full again! Poo!! 600 spams in two weeks!! eek



If there are any spammers reading this you're scum IMHO. Go get a real job and stop using bots to do your work for you and hassling us normal people who actually have a life all day every day. We don't want enlargement pumps or viagra or heart monitors or info about ourselves or pills without perscriptions or buying stuff in bulk or special mortgage rates or buying diplomas or starting a new life or making HUGE profits on eBay or any other crap. If I really need anything the internet is big and fast enough for me to find it myself from almost any country in the world. Go get a life...there really is a world out there.





Thank you, the RANT is over...no replies necessary but post at will....so long as it aint spam!! mad


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Pooh-Bah
Location: Bristol
Member Since: 30th May 2003
Total posts: 1662
Posted:Quote:


If the email meets the conditions above, you should unsubscribe from the email using either the unsubscribe link or address in the email. If you continue getting email after 10 days has passed, or if the email didn't meet the legal requirements above in the first place, then report the email sender to the FTC by emailing uce@ftc.gov.






part of an emil sent to me.

try the email address - admittedly you're probably not feeling like doing it 900 times, but it might help - you never know.


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it was the book of my dreams.

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Dunc
Dunc

playing the days away
Location: The Middle lands
Member Since: 19th Aug 2003
Total posts: 7263
Posted:Cool cheers Marth. I'll give it a go. I did the unsubscribe( like I ever subscribed in the first place?!?!?) but they just stopped and I got a whole lot of others.

hhmmm....rant is lessening somewhat now...slightly!


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simian
simian

110% MONKEY EVERY TIME ALL THE TIME JUST CANT STOP THE MONKEY
Location: London
Member Since: 11th Oct 2002
Total posts: 3149
Posted:i don't trust the clicky bits umm

i recently got two spams to my email. The first ones ever after a year and a half

leaving it for now, and seeing what happens...


"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."

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Pooh-Bah
Location: Bristol
Member Since: 30th May 2003
Total posts: 1662
Posted:i keep getting invitations to get my penis enlarged (do they even check if you have one?? NO!) but they sent it to an address that just forewards emails to my real address, so i can't reply from it - VERY ANNOYING.

so i reported them to the men and i hope they're going to come and take them away now.

there is a list that you can get put on that means you don't get any junk mail or anything or they get fined. I can't remeber what it's called, but my mummy's on it an apparently it really works. I'll try to find out for you.


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SpitFire
Mand's Girl....and The Not So Shy One
Location: Calgary, Alberta Canada
Member Since: 2nd Dec 2002
Total posts: 2723
Posted:Hey Bug...that unsubscribe button? Often it just confirms that they hit an active email account, so you make yourself more of a target.

I've got a yahoo acct. that I tend to forget about. I log into it once every month if that, and it's almost always full of "ENLARGE BODY PARTS" or "GIRLS GIRLS GIRLS" or "YOU CAN EARN ONE MILLION IN ONE MINUTE!!"

rolleyes

Too bad the one million in one minute is a farce. I could use the cash. biggrin



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mcp
mcp

Flying Water Muppet
Location: Edin-borrow.
Member Since: 20th May 2003
Total posts: 5276
Posted:Never click on the links - ESPECIALLY if you use IE, it will report that your e-mail address is valid and spam you more. The same with unsubscribing, by replying to their e-mail, you're confirming that it is a valid e-mail address.

spank spam


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Durbs
Durbs

Classically British
Location: Epsom, Surrey, England
Member Since: 23rd Sep 2001
Total posts: 5688
Posted:I used to get loads to my hotmail account, but it's recently dried up - partly due to the recent UK anti-spam laws perhaps - but I just went for the "delete as soon as they come in" option. Don't unsubcribe. don't click anything, just delete it.

Set up word filters to search the body of the text and send them straight to the trash bin - Mortgage, enlarge, pills etc. The more you set up, the fewer you'll have in your inbox. Especially as they're often the same thing just from different e-mail accounts...

There is certain reply that yuo can create that sends back an e-mail saying that the address isn't a valid. Not sure what it is though umm


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Dunc
Dunc

playing the days away
Location: The Middle lands
Member Since: 19th Aug 2003
Total posts: 7263
Posted:If you can get me that address Star that'd be great hug


I got a yahoo account I use most of the time for my friends etc and I find it's quite good as it'll automatically put the spam into a junk account you can empty in one go but the one I get spammed at is BT Talk 21 and it's shite at the best of times. I think that as soon as the big red house thing is finished for Pixie I'll just delete it. But why should I have to because of A-hole spammers! mad


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WryTerra
WryTerra

The reason we say "European"
Location: Cheltenham
Member Since: 13th Jan 2003
Total posts: 912
Posted:This is for *everyone*.

Try and find a free forwarder (or if you can set up your own email accounts, do).

A free forwarder is basically a "not@real.com" address, which sends mail to a real one.

Then, when you have to sign up to something legitimately (like bigredhouse) set up a forwarder.

bigredhouse@notreal.com which will forward to my@email.com

so when you check your mail if you have 100s of spams to bigredhouse@notreal.com then guess what? you have actually authorative evidence that a company has sold your address for spam, because that account has been used once and once only, to register with their system.

Think about how many times you sign up to things...

macromedia@notreal.com
even homeofpoi@notreal.com (not that i think home of poi would do anything so shady)

any company you've registered with, website you've signed up to, etc.

it basically gives you a very handy paper trail to trace back any spam that isn't sensible enough to disguise the address it's sending to.

Then what do you do? Forward every single spam to the complaints department of the company you can now prove sold your address.

But you're not spamming them.

Forward it and put "I received this to an email account that I only ever showed your company, why?" at the top, make it an actual complaint.

When enough people do it, they get the output of the spammers * the number of addresses they have sold as spam in their in boxes.

Think about it, 10 spams a day (low number) to 1,000 of their customers (low number) is 10,000 complaints a day.

Do you think they won't listen?


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vim
strange/r/st/-ish
Location: upside down
Member Since: 2nd Dec 2003
Total posts: 142
Posted:do not reply to spam - even when you're tempted to give them a piece of your mind.

do not 'unsubscribe' to spam - I tested this a long time ago and under a minute later I received a batch of 4 more spam messages - it's probably worse now

do not view potential spam while online. If the email is in HTML format it will often go off and get pictures etc from the web, which will validate your email address.

Spammers are scum. But you have to consider this - it works. People have made a _lot_ of money from spam. It's only because people buy what is sold that spam continues to fill your inbox.

You think it's bad now, but spam is only in its infancy. Just wait and be thankful its mostly limited to your email ...

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spritie
spritie

Pooh-Bah
Location: Galveston, TX
Member Since: 9th Sep 2001
Total posts: 2014
Posted:Another way to avoid spam is to avoid having your e-mail listed anywhere on the web.



Oh, and SpitFire, yahoo has one of the best spam blockers that any of my e-mail accounts have. These days, I only get real mail in my inbox and all the rest gets sent to a spam folder which I just routinely hit delete all on.


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vim
strange/r/st/-ish
Location: upside down
Member Since: 2nd Dec 2003
Total posts: 142
Posted:Quote:
Try and find a free forwarder.


ooh, I like that idea. Trouble is finding one, any suggestions?

Also keep in mind that often addresses are harvested by viruses so you can't be 100% sure that the company/organization deliberately sold or misused your email address (or even that they were the source). They could just have bad or nonexistent security or virus protection. Though negligence is no defense when dealing with personal information.


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WryTerra
WryTerra

The reason we say "European"
Location: Cheltenham
Member Since: 13th Jan 2003
Total posts: 912
Posted:No I don't because I set up my own. I manage my own mail server.

As for them making mistakes, they have a chance to answer that when I ask "why?"

As the data was in their hold, and if you read terms and conditions they if they are legitimate take responsibility for it, they *are* still responsible.


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"I can't tell the difference between an electron and a cat" - Brother of a friend

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GottaLoveIt
GottaLoveIt

Sponge
Location: Stevenage
Member Since: 21st Sep 2003
Total posts: 883
Posted:While I agree with you on the above rant my personal rant today would be Stupid boyfriends taking text messages the wrong way mad
Anyway... *breathe* Why don't you use filters? I put mine up as soon as I got my account and have had the good fortune of not suffering spamdicitus. (If you get an option of an Advanced one - use it! The other one's are shite!) beerchug


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Dunc
Dunc

playing the days away
Location: The Middle lands
Member Since: 19th Aug 2003
Total posts: 7263
Posted:cuz it doesn't have a filter on it. I've been through all the options and filtering isn't one of them.

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Narr
Narr

(*) (*) .. for the gnor ;)
Location: sitting on the step
Member Since: 15th Apr 2003
Total posts: 2568
Posted:
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I have three email accounts, 2 hotmail and one yahoo (cos hotmail was pi$$in me off at one point) now only one of my hotmails doesnt have a filter on it ..and everyday i get around 5 spams.. as some others have said .. if i dont recognise the address or that it could be from someone i know changing their addie etc .. off it goes into nasty bin land


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SpitFire
Mand's Girl....and The Not So Shy One
Location: Calgary, Alberta Canada
Member Since: 2nd Dec 2002
Total posts: 2723
Posted:yeah, spritie, I know yahoo has a good anti spam blocker, but with the acct in question, I've used up the number of blocks I'm allowed....and they keep coming!

ah well. As I said, I rarely use it.


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spritie
spritie

Pooh-Bah
Location: Galveston, TX
Member Since: 9th Sep 2001
Total posts: 2014
Posted:That's weird...mine just automatically go to a bulk folder when I have spamguard turned on. I never had to say some were spam and some weren't. They get deleted from that bulk folder automatically when they have been there for a month.

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DeepSoulSheep
DeepSoulSheep

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Berlin
Member Since: 25th Sep 2002
Total posts: 2617
Posted:Quote:
If there are any spammers reading this you're scum IMHO.



Such politcal correctness umm

Quote:
Spammers are scum.


Ahhh that's better.

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i keep getting invitations to get my penis enlarged



Me too. confused I don't know who's spreading these rumours but they seem to have told a lot of people like Dr Hardy and Woodrow Wilson. ubblol wink

Try bigfoot.com for free forwarding.


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Pooh-Bah
Location: Bristol
Member Since: 30th May 2003
Total posts: 1662
Posted:although seeting up a forewarding email address seems like a good idea i wouldn't try it. I have one, andf now i can't even legitimately unsubscribe from the lists because i can't send email from that address. very irritationg.

in my experience unsubscribing really does work. The official guidelines say that everyone has to have the option to unsubscribe, and the reason spam can keep going is because it is actually legal. As long as they provide an unsubscribe link that works they can't be arrested, so the links really do work.

if the link doesn't work and you keep getting them or there isn't a link in the first place, then email uce@ftc.gov and tell them - they should be able to stop it for you.


I had a dream that my friend had a
strong-bad pop up book,
it was the book of my dreams.

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WryTerra
WryTerra

The reason we say "European"
Location: Cheltenham
Member Since: 13th Jan 2003
Total posts: 912
Posted:my point is not to use it as a genuine address but as a "firewall" between you and potential causes of spam.

therefore you don't need to unsubscribe from it, simply delete the forwarder when you want the spam to stop.


"We have done the impossible and that makes us mighty" - Mal Reynolds

"I can't tell the difference between an electron and a cat" - Brother of a friend

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_Aime_

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Hastings
Member Since: 2nd Jan 2004
Total posts: 4172
Posted:grrrrr i hate spams too. cos i REALLY need organic penis enlargment and hot sexy MILF's in my area.

try putting a junk filter on?


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GottaLoveIt
GottaLoveIt

Sponge
Location: Stevenage
Member Since: 21st Sep 2003
Total posts: 883
Posted:Quote:
i need organic penis enlargment and hot sexy MILF's in my area.







ARGH! Aimee has a small peeny and she wants a bigger one to aid the MILF's!!!!



ARGH! ARGH! ARGH!



*Runs*

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Dunc
Dunc

playing the days away
Location: The Middle lands
Member Since: 19th Aug 2003
Total posts: 7263
Posted:heh heh...peeny....my Mom used to call it that when I was ickle....peeny ubblol

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GottaLoveIt
GottaLoveIt

Sponge
Location: Stevenage
Member Since: 21st Sep 2003
Total posts: 883
Posted:My maturity just shines through!!! biggrin

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Narr
Narr

(*) (*) .. for the gnor ;)
Location: sitting on the step
Member Since: 15th Apr 2003
Total posts: 2568
Posted:my sis and i when we were little used to call them winkles

and beebees were daisies biggrin


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GottaLoveIt
GottaLoveIt

Sponge
Location: Stevenage
Member Since: 21st Sep 2003
Total posts: 883
Posted:I think I just called them the rude names, the one's that should be censored. Or fanny! Haha! Fanny! (I don't think I knew the boys had something different! ubblol )

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Pooh-Bah
Location: Bristol
Member Since: 30th May 2003
Total posts: 1662
Posted:Quote:
my point is not to use it as a genuine address but as a "firewall" between you and potential causes of spam.




i got you. smile


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Doc Lightning
Doc Lightning

HOP Mad Doctor
Location: San Francisco, CA, USA
Member Since: 28th May 2001
Total posts: 13920
Posted:I keep getting spam informing me that

"I MAY QUALIFY FOR A DEGREE BASED ON THE WORK I'VE ALREADY DONE!"

Gee, no kidding? mad


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Dunc
Dunc

playing the days away
Location: The Middle lands
Member Since: 19th Aug 2003
Total posts: 7263
Posted:Quote:
my sis and i when we were little used to call them winkles

and beebees were daisies biggrin



Beebees were daisies? eh?! confuddled bug confused


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