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Posted:website gone.... The pics are in my gallery now.



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Fire By Riz tm
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Posted:Jo
those look awsome job well done


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onewheeldave
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Posted:They're cool.
I've recently made some monkey fist meteors and poi(non fire) and I spend a lot of time messing with knots/macrame.
The chunky poi sixth picture down are interesting; is it the knot that uses four ends in a symmetrical swastica like pattern? (I know its got a name but I can't remember it)


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Posted:pwooor.
really inpressed with the poi heads
quality

wanna try wanna try


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Posted:Nice! Knots are definately the way to go.

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Tempest
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Posted:don't I get any credit for my hours of hard work

oval grip boy

your toys are daft anyway, got burns just from looking at them today. Only for the hardcore or the daft


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Posted:Mmmmmm very nice!

How much rope did you use on the twirly ropes, 4th pic? & how long are they? I made some foot long ropes by folding the rope in half, twisting it up, & doing that again. Nice & easy, but the tension in the rope means it holds less kero & only burns for a few mins.



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Astar
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Posted:I really like the idea of those crazy knots on the staffs. Kind of like cathedral wicks for staff.

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Posted:well...not exactly..

Well i most like the gravel they are photed on..

where can i get some?


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Jo
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Posted:Cheers for the complements!

Liam, I've credited you now - are you happy?

Dave, it is similar to that swastica knot, but with 6 ends. Liam thinks they're incredibly ugly, and I kind of agree, but the flame is bigger than him and lasts for ages.

Firemorph, 15' each of the 3/8" rope. The wick is about 16" long. I was going to try the twisty type you made but I'm glad I didn't if they go out real quick. However, I don't think the tension is the reason. In fact, I think the more taught the rope, the longer it seems to burn for. Maybe there just isn't enough kevlar in them.

UCOF, that there is the Tempests' gravel. It is the most photogenic gravel on the market and its origin is a closely guarded secret available only to Tempests and me. So there.

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Posted:Yea, they're real nice, so they are

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Posted:I want some of thoes bad style poi heads, as drew says pwoooor.

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Posted:BAH! I thought of making macrame fire ropes the other day and planned to make them with the kevlar I'm hoping to get for my BD...

One day I'll have an original idea...then you'd all better watch out...
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onewheeldave
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Posted:Jo-

if it's the same six cord swastica knot that I know then you can make some beautiful wool things with three colours.

I used to make dolls that I called 'Holy Boys' (they were inspired by a south american shamanic spirit known as Holy Boy).

They had three colours (red, yellow and blue) and dreadlocks down to their feet.

Next time I'm near a digital camera I'll get some photos.


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Posted:new combo for you Dave, macramimuni

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Posted:I hear you Paddy...I was thinking about a way to make a monkeyfist of kevlar rope on the end of a staff and now Jo has transcended even that idea.

Can I embarass myself and ask, as a person whose not up to much not, knotwise, how to make these awesome toys?

(Purely theoretical of course, I wouldn't DREAM of actually making such wick'd up toys)


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Jo
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Posted:Since it's you Charles. For anyone else the answer would be no.

http://www.knotingwork.com/Pages/knots.html


Try any of these knots that look like they'll work and it's bound to turn out looking great. The one I used on the short staffs is a half-knot sinnet, and it is incredibly easy and quick.

Basically, just try any repeated knot, using any number of kevlar ends, and 3 out of 4 times it'll make a nice pattern of some kind.

Jo.

PS. The only issue you'll have using these knots is, ur..., ending them. I'ld be interested to see what ideas people come up with if anyone has a go.


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Posted:TEMPEST

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new combo for you Dave, macramimuni

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What a great idea, downhill rough terrain racing on Munis with the added challenge of having to create a plant pot holder on the way down!

(I'm assuming that you weren't suggesting making a unicycle out of macrame knots- that would be silly!)


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Posted:is it just me, or is that first link down? I love knots.. I wanna see the neat knotted fire toys.

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Posted:Here's a link to my new meteors made from braided line with monket fist ends: -

http://www.geocities.com/combatunicycle/wash/washingline.html


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Posted:Nice one Dave, they look great!

Jo.

PS. the website with the piccys is down.
shit.


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Posted:your crazy

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Posted:Coming a bit late to this thread...

Jo--I made a set of knot-wicked staffs a while back. For unrelated reasons, I haven't burned them yet, so I can't attest to the quality of this approach, but...I knotted my way from the tip towards the center. I had pre-drilled a small hole through the shaf at the point where I wanted to stopt, and when I got to that point with the wicking, I passed a stout piece of stainless wire through the hole, wrapped that over the tips, and twisted it down.


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Jo
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Posted:Sweet idea mate!

I've just relied on the knot and a bit of PVA glue - they've done ok but an end came off once (at a gig too ) . That sounds like it'll work nicely - thanks a lot.

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Posted:Bump for Strugz smile

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Posted:Wicked stuff Dude hug

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Posted:biggrin

*hurls her wool and beads into a corner and cracks out the kevlar.....*


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Posted:right im going to get on to these as well

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Posted:you are now you know how to knot............ biggrin

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Posted:i was already going to use that knot, but i had guessed taht was the knot, not knowing it was the one biggrin

thanks roz


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Posted:i did the same knot as you, jo, making a flag, only i used 1/4" rope instead of 3/8", and it is a little itghter and the spiral around the staff is more pronounced, though i bet the burn is pretty much the same...

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