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coleman
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Posted:i've recently given in and decided i need to give lots of money to aerotech for some poi that have lights on them and stuff. i've seen that as well as the clubs, they're doing poi and meteor now...

now i've used their clubs for spinning and although they look great, i can't wrap them at all.

the poi look quite good but from the pictures on the site, the meteor has full length illumination and heavier ends whereas the poi (at a similar size and weight) seem only to illuminate up to halfway and are an even diameter tube (no fat bit on the end). i am tempted to opt for the meteors and just change the strap for some strings to use them as poi.



has anyone tried either of these (preferably both) that can give me a recommendation of one or the other?


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Posted:Hello Coleman!!

Ahh the question of Aerotech poi options...
Ive got the clubs and yup you are right u cant do any wraps with them, A friend of mine has go the meteors and I must say that you are probably no better off with them for doing wraps either..
They are just as heavy as the clubs and they dont seem to be verry good with wraps..
Aerotech recon that their poi are good for wraps and they work on the same lighting system as their clubs and meteors but I must say that Im not verry impressed with their lighting..
I still think the best option if you wanna go for wraps would be to get the stobing juggling balls with the nets!!

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coleman
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Posted:cheers d

globalls do seem to be the sensible option - especially as i want to get some for juggling too... i'm just worried that with those heavy balls and shoelaces for chains, i'll only be left with bare bones for fingers! guess i'll have to get some *really* soft shoelaces aswell.

by the way, the video from friday night is 10 times better than the last one - should have the cd ready by wednesday.

peas man.


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Durbs
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Posted:I've nearly got enough for a set of aerotechs now and was wondering the same question. I know more people have them now so was wondering what to go for; GloPoi or GloMeteor?

And the worst thing is I'm not sure about the colours...
You can custom make them (although the price is then 85 each ) from the following colours:
Red
Yellow
Blue
Green
Orange
White

My original thought was Blue/Green (85 each) - but then this isn't particularly original. Red/Yellow is quite striking and cheaper (65 each)
But then to make matters worse, I borrowed some "ball in bag" GloBall poi and these were different colours per poi - One Red/Yellow, the other Orange/Green and they looked really nice.

Any thoughts people?
Matching Poi or different colours?
Can anyone compare brightness of the different colours?

The final idea I had was one poi Red/Green and the other Yellow/Green. Then you can have loads of combinations, which all look nice but also 2 green ones like Beamers.

Ooooooooooo - decisions, decisions - HELP!

[ 01. February 2003, 04:24: Message edited by: Durbs ]


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Posted:thinking about a super dangerous variation, lightbulb poi/metior.

use batteries as the weights with a standard lightbulb fitting on top. add yer carny lights of whatever colours and spin, just don' hit yerself.

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Durbs
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Posted:Hmmm - I think I'd rather shell out for some Aerotechs than risk glass fragments in my face.
But thanks


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DeepSoulSheep
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Posted:I'd say you should give PK a shout cause he was telling me he had the meteors and said they were way better for wrapping cause they have the same power unit as the staff and more weight at the bottom.

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Durbs
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Posted:yeah - I was edging towards the Meteors, Dom has some too and they were lovley to use...

But colours, my friends, what colours?


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Astar


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Posted:Blue and white are the brightest colours for LED's.

I think tourquise is the 2nd brightest and red is the third.


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Posted:Nix I've got photos of that with filament lightbulbs. and a big battery pack on the ground
late 1800's early 1900's I think.

Astar: are you sure white and blue are brightest???


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Posted:Why so many colors?
Each person has a unique visual acuity and, as a result, a personal color preference. Each color, which is pure spectrum color -- not dyed or filtered -- has different characteristics that allow for varied applications.

Beam color characteristics:

Red. Red is favored by pilots, sailors, fishermen, and astronomers for the excellent ability to preserve night vision and also for uses of safety, signaling, and map reading. Red is an internationally recognized attention color. 630 nm.

Yellow. Yellow is a traditional flashlight beam color, with good projection - up to 20 to 30 feet. 592 nm.

Orange. The orange beam combines some of the aspects of both the red and the yellow, making it very bright. It doesn't disturb night vision as much as yellow, and illuminates things better than red. 605 nm.

Green. The green light is nearly as bright as the blue, turquoise, and white lights but it has a longer battery life. The green light will run up to 20 hours with one set of batteries. 525 nm.

Blue. The blue beam is tremendously bright. The wide-angle bulb illuminates everything to the side as well as forward. Many people consider blue the most beautiful color. 470 nm.

Turquoise. The turquoise appears slightly brighter than the blue. The wide-angle bulb can light up an entire room. Turquoise is an excellent alternative to red for night vision preservation. 495 nm.

White. White is great for all around use as everything is viewed in full color. The narrow-angle bulb produces an incredibly bright -- and practical -- flashlight-style beam. 6500 K.

Purple. Purple bulbs create a black-light effect, making lighter colors appear bright. Purple bulbs do produce some UV light, which can be harmful if viewed directly. 405 nm.

Specialty Lights:

Infrared. Used by members of the Secret Service, this Photon light creates a powerful infrared beam invisible to the naked eye. Rated at 11mW, this light is more powerful than the average IR illuminator. When used in conjunction with night vision equipment, it will illuminate a large area. This Photon light is ONLY useful when used with night vision equipment or other equipment sensitive to infrared light. 880 nm.

Ultraviolet (UV). UV light has a variety of specialty applications. It can be used to: authenticate money, expose imitation art, identify minerals, follow blood, bacteria and protein trails, authenticate collector glass and stamps, and accelerate curing glue. Medical staff, law enforcement personnel, collectors, cashiers and model builders are the main users of UV lights. 370 nm.


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Astar


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Posted:Color
Color Spec.
Beam Angle
Battery
Battery Life*

Infrared:
880 nm.
12 (narrow)
1 x Lithium CR-2032


Red:
630 nm.
24 (wide)
1 x Lithium CR-2032
120 hrs.

Orange:
605 nm.
15 (narrow)
1 x Lithium CR-2032
120 hrs.

Yellow:
592 nm.
15 (narrow)
1 x Lithium CR-2032
120 hrs.

Green:
525 nm.
30 (wide)
2 x Lithium CR-2016
10-12 hrs.

Turquoise:
495 nm.
30 (wide)
2 x Lithium CR-2016
10-12 hrs.

Blue:
470 nm.
30 (wide)
2 x Lithium CR-2016
10-12 hrs.

Purple: (black- light)
405 nm.
(wide)
2 x Lithium CR-2016
10-12 hrs.

Ultraviolet: (pure UV)
370 nm.
10 (narrow)
2 x Lithium CR-2016


White:
full spectrum (6500 Kelvin)
20 (narrow)
2 x Lithium CR-2016
10-12 hrs.


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Astar


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Posted:Are there any LED spinning implements with white LED's?

I think the uncanny steady brightness and trail effects of LED's only with white light would look pretty cool on the end of a poi.


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Kinudin (Soul Fyre)


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Posted:What type of Aerotechs does Dom have?

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Malcolm
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Posted:quote:Originally posted by Kinudin (Soul Fyre):
What type of Aerotechs does Dom have? I saw his meteors. Not sure what others he has.


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Durbs
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Posted:Yeah, I played with his meteors, which I *think* were blue and red.
Which are pretty, but everyone's got them...

The only other plus for the GloPoi is they apparently last nearly twice as long...

Hmmmmmm


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Posted:Dag nabit.
I've only gone and gotten a job... I can afford some now - eek!

What would be REALLY helpful, would be if people could post some pictures/videos of the different colours "in action" for a direct comparison. The Aerotech site only shows Blue with Purple (maybe a blurred red?) and these aren't even moving.

I don't think I'll go for Blue/Red as these seem to popular - heck if you're going to spend this much on poi, at least be original right?

I was thinking about white too - it would be a very striking colour if it's as bright as the rest BUT any other colour would look crap next to it, as white is made up of all colours. Except maybe blue...

Green/Orange would certainly be "striking" (or sh!t depending on your point of view

My "art-inclined" friend tells me blue and green are too close together on the "colour wheel" (eh?) and this is apparently a bad thing. I still think it looks pretty

I remember the yellow being quite, erm, orangey/mustardy and don't think it would be good with anything other than red.

So, final choices:

Red / Green (85)
Green / Blue (85)
Red / Yellow (65)
or again one of one, one of the other?
Anyone?


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PK_
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Posted:green and yellow look sick, my mate has those colors in his staff.

color is up to you man, your dollars, your toys, your decission.

globalls in bags are way too fucking heavy dude.
P2 clubs as poi lol we tried this last week, not too bad either.... i prefere my clubs any day.
give Phil a ring at aerotech he's sound, talk over any questions you have.


any one wanting red and yellow clubs 10 cheeper than ordering from aerotech PM me for a web address.


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Durbs
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Posted:erm - "sick" as in good, or sick as in looks like a ring of vomit?
Pardon my ignorance


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coleman
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Posted:durbs - i'm pretty sure he means sick as in 'good'

i can tell you i went for globalls in nets in the end as per deviant's advice. they're blue/yellows and look wikid! my worries about weight and finger destruction have been put to rest by the wonders of callousses
they feel heavy but only because you can spin them so bloody fast - they're actually 10g lighter than the p1 clubs (the glopoi are the only lighter toys). i'm well pleased with my balls as you can obviously juggle with them too.

i've since seen the meteors and they are the shit! they weigh the same as the p1 clubs (200g) but are much shorter. they're basically the ends of the staffs so these will definitely be my next purchase from aerotech. i'm thinking white and blue (seen a staff in these colours - looks lovely) but this is unfortunately the most expensive colour combo - i was quoted 119 just for one ball

out of your choices i'd have to say i like the sound of green/blue best. good luck with your decision


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Posted:Definitely got a pair of orange/green meteors in mind for sometime this year!

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Durbs
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Posted:I played with "balls in nets" too and found them just too heavy - i attached some proper Poi handles on to them too. Maybe I'm just weak...

Can I just say - That none of you have been in the least bit helpful! I decide against blue and white and am told these look great, I decide against yellow and green and these apparently look "sick" and then green and orange is apparently good too

*sigh* I guess you're all right though - It's just down to personal choice. But I just know I'll be so p!ssed off if I'm the least bit dissapointed with them.


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Posted:Thinking about it some more Red and white could look cool in a candy-cane kind of way...
Maybe a bit girly though.

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Posted:Well, what with birthdays and all that, I will soon be the proud owner of a pair of
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Some Blue/White GloMeteors
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Posted:Does anyone know how the Aerotech balls hold up to, say, wraps? My biggest problem with the Beamers are that they tend to go out if I wrap them (battery contact I believe). I talked to an Aerotech rep and he said that they were holding off on the Glopoi because of stress testing, something about the recharging post coming undone... I'm wondering if I'll break them or not.

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Durbs
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Posted:The balls are fairly solid - they're designed for jugglers, and even the best of them drop balls occasionally. I'd have thought dropping a ball from a throw puts more stress on a ball than wrapping it... The problem I found (as have several others I think) is the nets you hold the balls in give way over time as the balls are quite heavy.

The GloMeteors and GloPoi aren't that much different. The original GloPoi (Which were on the website a while ago, before being withdrawn for further testing/development I believe) didn't have the "head" on the "shaft" (oo-er!) but that was the only real difference I think.

Unless you're a particularly fast spinner I don't think there would be that much stress on them, the GloMeteors were once advertised as "Ideal for Wraps", so I guess you can take their word for it. If you wrap the string (or whatever) more than the poi, I think you'd get a softer wrap rather than a "bounce".

Just my own personal thoughts mind you - Tempest is the guy you need to speak to I believe.

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Posted:You should check out Friendly Fires newest creation.
Fibre Optic Meteor Poi.
http://www.thefriendlyfirestore.com/LED-Poi.html


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