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smallrussianmonkey


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Location: oxford, uk

Total posts: 10
Posted: OK... have only really just started using Poi, and i've just about mastered the basic few butterfly moves and I can happily do the 3 beat weave until the cows come home.

I've been trying to to do the 4 (or 5?!) beat weave for about a week and its not working! I'm really not sure what I'm supposed to do, do the strings actually cross and uncross or is that a hyperloop? I'm getting a bit lost and the video isn't very clear, and I couldn't find any old posts that made sense! (i find learning something spinning on the left hand side a lot easier than the right which might be my problem) Any tips or help would be great... biggrin

thank you!


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WorlDDestroyeR

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Location: LeHavre, Normandy, France

Total posts: 4
Posted:if you ogt 5 beats waves , you can do 6in putting Poi on the last phalanx and cross it , it's not possible in front , only side to side(for me , so you ...)
good luck


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philtre
SILVER Member since Jul 2005

philtre

member
Location: Manchester, United Kingdom

Total posts: 38
Posted:yesssss! I finally got it nailed.

I lost.

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PerfectlyNormal


newbie


Total posts: 4
Posted:Oh man im struggling with the 4 beat and 5 beat weave too, i can do alot of other moves, just not that one!! Ive been trying for a long time now and i still suck, it all goes tits up and gets wrapped around my hand.

:-(

going to go out the garden and keep doing it.

ill be back


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Drudwyn


Drudwyn

Forget puppy power, Scrappy's just gay
Location: Southampton Uni

Total posts: 632
Posted:when you're wrapping your hands around each other (I find wrist to wrist easiest), if you find they come back and smack you in the head, or wrap around your arms, the problem you're having is leaving your hands in one place for too long. You need to bring your hands across your body faster. That was seriously unhelpful, but it's true. It's all about bringing your hands across your body faster.

Pretty much as soon as your hands lock together, you need to drag your hands across your body, letting the Poi spin rather than wrapping your arms.

I hope that's a bit better.


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fire_fairy_liquid
BRONZE Member since Oct 2005

fire_fairy_liquid

enthusiast
Location: manchester, United Kingdom

Total posts: 287
Posted:is it me or does any one else think that HoP needs a better video for the 5 beat weave lessons???

thanks for burning with me

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UCOF
SILVER Member since Apr 2002

UCOF

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Location: United Kingdom

Total posts: 15414
Posted:ubblol

yes.. it has been said for years.



Go and make one tongue



I have no camera to do so is my excuse.. ubbangel


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gothic


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Total posts: 29
Posted:well i will try n explain the 4 and 5 beat weave for u's am struggling on the 3bt btb weave is a pain for me !!

so...
i take it that u's can do the 3 bt weave !!

3 beat wave
each Poi is doing 1 full turn on 1 side but 1 Poi is following behind the other E.G as the right Poi is 3/4's of the way into the turn on the right side the left Poi is following its path. as the right Poi exits to change to the left side mirror this action on the left side.

4 beat weave
for argument sake ur right hand is above and the left is below.

each Poi is doing 1 spin on its OWN side and 2 on its OPPOSITE side within the chase ... E.G. the right Poi (the leader) is comin out of the rotation on the right side and the left Poi (the chasing 1) is behind it... when u cross ur Poi to rotate on the left side the right Poi should spin TWICE and the left ONCE...now u will find ur that ur right hand is on the bottom and ur left hand is on the top !! also the LEFT Poi IS THE LEADER and the RIGHT IS THE CHASING. just repeat on the right side (the left rotates twice n the right once)

5 bt weave
ok this weave isnt as hard as it looks, begin to do the 4 bt weave...same situation and starting postion as the other weaves above this !! the right Poi (the leader) is comin out of the rotation on the right side and the left Poi (the chasing 1) is behind it...

SO...THE LEFT Poi is doing exactly the same as in 4 beat weave, meaning its doing 2 rotations on the right side!!

THE RIGHT Poi instead of 1 rotation in the 4 bt weave its now doins TWO ROTATIONS

keep the number of rotations in ur head ...
left=2
right=2

(How to do it)
the right Poi (the leader) is comin out of the rotation on the right side and the left Poi (the chasing 1) is behind it... rotate the right hand 1 more time as u do this u will find the Poi going around the left arm !!DONT PANIC!! ))..lil TIP..(( make sure the left hand is almost out of rotation (so the left Poi is above ur arms). also bend ur left wrist upwards and around the right arm and the right wrist is bent around the left arm as much as u can. now its is time to switch to the other side. to do this rotate the left arm to the right side because the left hand is now the leader and the right is the chasing!!

well i hope the way i explained it will help yea's it sounds right in my head anyways haha :P

l8r's \m/Joe\m/


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Avikus
GOLD Member since May 2005

newbie
Location: Canada

Total posts: 9
Posted:ok so ... I mastered the 3beat weave on day one of my first Poi experience (last june) ... since then the 3beat weave (foward and back and 360 and all) is a joke ... can do it with my hands tied up ... tho I can't do it behind my back but anyway... should I have a problem trying to get 4 and 5 beat weave? or it'S a whole other concept?

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Drudwyn


Drudwyn

Forget puppy power, Scrappy's just gay
Location: Southampton Uni

Total posts: 632
Posted:As with learning any trick, it's about the timing. The hand wrapping shouldn't be too difficult, but it's learning the timings that are hard. When you're learning the basics of Poi, the timings are everything. And they're bloody hard!

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Mint Sauce
BRONZE Member since Sep 2003

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Location: Lancs England

Total posts: 1453
Posted:humm until I just made a vid of myself I have always called this a 4 beat redface but I realize the error of my ways smile sorry to all who I have convinced to my way of thinking I was wrong biggrin



ps vid link on the way you will just have to ignore the incorrect title wink



before i met those lot i thought they'd be a bunch of dreadlocked hippies that smoked, set things on fire ,and drank a lot of tea but then when i met them....oh wait (PyroWill)

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Teppic


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Total posts: 5
Posted:as far as i was always concerned a 4 beat feels like going from 3 on one side to 5 on the other then3 on the other again, at least that i find produces 4 beats on each side...

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Mint Sauce
BRONZE Member since Sep 2003

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Location: Lancs England

Total posts: 1453
Posted:5 beat weave (vid clip)

humm until I just made a vid of myself I have always called this a 4 beat but I realize the error of my ways sorry to all who I have convinced to my way of thinking I was wrong

so This is a small vid of me doing the 5 beat weave. Its a bit messy but you can see what I'm doing I hope it helps any one who is trying o learn it.



Notice each Poi dose 5 beets 2 on one side 3 on the other.



juggle beats of five you say juggle


before i met those lot i thought they'd be a bunch of dreadlocked hippies that smoked, set things on fire ,and drank a lot of tea but then when i met them....oh wait (PyroWill)

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Sporky


Sporky

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Location: Glasgow

Total posts: 663
Posted:cool vid.

I'm still struggling to keep my 5bt weaves in perfect split time. the last beat on my right hand side normally pushes the Poi into 1/4 time so I guess I just need more practice.


Have faith in what you can do and respect for what you can't

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coleman
SILVER Member since Aug 2002

coleman

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Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay, United Kin...

Total posts: 7330
Posted:you want to play with offset 2 bt weaves more mr finalstep - they will help your timing issues no end smile

great video by the way mint sauce - i forsee it will be referred to many times...


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UCOF
SILVER Member since Apr 2002

UCOF

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: United Kingdom

Total posts: 15414
Posted:Thumb be rock?

confused


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Asena
GOLD Member since Aug 2005

Asena

What a Bummer
Location: Shatfield, Hertfordshire, Unit...

Total posts: 3224
Posted:noooo silly its a toe!! or very hairy thumb

but blatently a toeeee! like, toby rocks!!


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Mint Sauce
BRONZE Member since Sep 2003

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Location: Lancs England

Total posts: 1453
Posted:how about

finger wasp pebbles



that would be a coolname

hi im finger wasp pebbles. lol lol lol ubbrollsmile


before i met those lot i thought they'd be a bunch of dreadlocked hippies that smoked, set things on fire ,and drank a lot of tea but then when i met them....oh wait (PyroWill)

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melon
BRONZE Member since May 2005

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Location: Swindon!!!!!!!, United Kingdom

Total posts: 162
Posted:im workin on the 5 beat weave, over the arm diablo and behind the back weave, tis not goin too good

im alan partridge........AHA!

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JayKitty
GOLD Member since Nov 2004

JayKitty

Mission: Ignition
Location: Central New Jersey, USA

Total posts: 534
Posted:btb foward and reverse five beat. ick.

Don't mind me, just passing through.

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spangle


newbie


Total posts: 6
Posted:mint sauce... your vid did it for me... i watched it a bunch (for about a week:) and now i can do it! ....

what worked for me: is copying the hand movements without the Poi first.... and then adding the Poi later ... it was sloppy and the Poi twisted at first, but then i just got used to switching my hands back and forth like in your video... and then i read the h.o.p. directions again... and eventually it clicked


now i cant imagine trying it in reverse.....


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jaero
SILVER Member since Jun 2004

jaero

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Location: over the river, through the wo...

Total posts: 246
Posted:when you do it in reverse... keep your hands next to your face so the Poi ends won't hit you there. and be prepared to move your shoulders alot. I got the reverse 4 almost immediately. the reverse 6 came next. then the reverse 5. it took me about 2 months of beating the crap out of myself to get the reverse 5 beat weave.

I'll get there too late if I shorten my stride, I'll get there too soon if I find me a ride, I'll never move forward if I try to hide this path that I've troden one step at a time.

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