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flash fireBRONZE Member
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Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia


Posted:
This space is for all those funksters busy improving their technique by learning new moves - made-up or traditional.



Tell us all about it! We love hearing about our fellow poiers/staffies/misc. toyers succeeding with new things biggrin

It's just hard to keep up with it all sometimes, so if we keep it together you'll be certain to get a little feedback.



here a pat on the back in advance from me



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MidkiffBRONZE Member
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Location: Carmi, Illinois, USA


Posted:
well the way i learned it, it is a split time butterfly hip reel alternating to a split time butterfly shoulder reel and back one hand up and one hand down

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SpinnerofDetroitGOLD Member
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Location: Trenton, MI, USA


Posted:
What my friend is a Wiggle? I'm interested now and can't find it on Youtube.

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Sister ElevenGOLD Member
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Location: Seattle, WA, USA


Posted:
Originally Posted By: Midkiffwell the way i learned it, it is a split time butterfly hip reel alternating to a split time butterfly shoulder reel and back one hand up and one hand down

Oh, that. Yeah, I love that one. Feels great, and makes an easy turn in split time butterfly.

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JamethGOLD Member
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378 posts
Location: NSW, Australia


Posted:
Originally Posted By: SpinnerofDetroitWhat my friend is a Wiggle? I'm interested now and can't find it on Youtube.

I've never specifically looked for it on YT, I don't recall seeing it - I got it from Michal Kahn's book.

Pretty much as midkiff describes, with an extension in front for the third beat so you don't dislocate your shoulder.

So, imagine split time inwards butterfly: right arm goes once behind your hip, extend up to once behind your shoulder, extension in front back to behind your hip. Left arm follows 1/2 beat behind, which leads to the wiggle.

Either hand can lead and if you do it outwards it's reverse so behind shoulder- behind hip-front-behind shoulder.

SpinnerofDetroitGOLD Member
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Location: Trenton, MI, USA


Posted:
I have no idea what was just described crazy

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Sister ElevenGOLD Member
owner of the group property
1,277 posts
Location: Seattle, WA, USA


Posted:
It's just raising a hip reel into a butterfly windmill and back, except one hand goes up while the other goes down.

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TeamoGOLD Member
Almost again
124 posts
Location: Finland


Posted:
I haven't heard of the term before either, but from the description I'm thinking that the thing I do in the collab video around 4:32-4:35 would be considered turning with Wiggle (though extremely sloppy) ?

Smurf24029GOLD Member
Poi Master Smurf
343 posts
Location: Tacoma, Washington, USA


Posted:
I just put some kind of weight in the handles on a pair of poi, and have really started to explore throws more. Can do the cool toss each poi to the other hand during an upward stall while spinning opposites.

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Sister ElevenGOLD Member
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1,277 posts
Location: Seattle, WA, USA


Posted:
I'm coming along slowly with throws, but I just got the hang of putting a random toss into a weave. It's a big step for me to A) not change the direction of the poi when I catch it, and B) to be able to spin with the other hand at the same time.

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JamethGOLD Member
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378 posts
Location: NSW, Australia


Posted:
Originally Posted By: ReVoI haven't heard of the term before either, but from the description I'm thinking that the thing I do in the collab video around 4:32-4:35 would be considered turning with Wiggle (though extremely sloppy) ?

It looks like it to me.

I think most experienced poisters would include that combo in passing now and then, without thinking about it, but to me as a beginner it was a milestone.

It's also one those moves 'lay' people like, especially when done with light or fire, because of the variation in circle size and the way it wraps around you.

GrooveBRONZE Member
Groove is the key .
1 post
Location: Memphis, Tennessee, USA


Posted:
i am very new to poi. just made my first sock poi last week, and i love them.
i have been hooping since last summer so i am just getting te hang of both arts.

i hope to learn from each person i meet on here. :]

SpinnerofDetroitGOLD Member
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2,280 posts
Location: Trenton, MI, USA


Posted:
Split-time same direction stalls behind my back

The only luck is bad luck.

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Sister ElevenGOLD Member
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1,277 posts
Location: Seattle, WA, USA


Posted:
Just starting to get those myself. Also got the notcoleman weave, which I don't really like tongue2

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SpinnerofDetroitGOLD Member
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2,280 posts
Location: Trenton, MI, USA


Posted:
what is the notcoleman weave? it's not on youtube

The only luck is bad luck.

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Sister ElevenGOLD Member
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1,277 posts
Location: Seattle, WA, USA


Posted:
It's an inverted 3bt weave. For the forwards, when you bring one arm over the other, instead of taking it back to the other side of your body you bring it up between your arms. Basically instead of the single beat on that arm's side of your body, you bring it through the buzzsaw plane.

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Nonsensestranger
11 posts
Location: North Carolina


Posted:
ok this is gonna sounds so lame but im very happy i just learned how to do bw 2bt weave grin i just never did anything bw and its very hard for me frown

but next step bw 3bt weave wooooo!!!

JamethGOLD Member
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378 posts
Location: NSW, Australia


Posted:
Congratulations! smile

SpinnerofDetroitGOLD Member
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2,280 posts
Location: Trenton, MI, USA


Posted:
Awesome grin Don't worry, going the other way is harder for everyone. I still suck a buzzsaw flowers the opposite direction than I normally do.

The only luck is bad luck.

Shut up before I stall my poi up your ass grin


Nonsensestranger
11 posts
Location: North Carolina


Posted:
thankkk youuuu grin

yea its very harddddd shocked i still keep hitting myself on occasion but its getting better lol
i got Reels down too grin

SpinnerofDetroitGOLD Member
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2,280 posts
Location: Trenton, MI, USA


Posted:
I suggest while getting ur 2-3bt weaves, learning all your reels. Your low and high turns, turning with them. And also turning with reels is nice. Learn flowers as early as possible because it opens up freedom of movement around your body which helps a ton in learning new things and is just very important to learn. And I didn't do this, but take it from me, learn your flowers in both directions early on or it bites you later.

The only luck is bad luck.

Shut up before I stall my poi up your ass grin


Nonsensestranger
11 posts
Location: North Carolina


Posted:
yea i got all the reels down they not perfect but alright i can turn with them and stuff i've been practicing a lot of 360 turns both directions just to gain a little freedom with my movements.
Also i've been playing with flowers but i havent really practice them yet and thank you for your advice smile im learning everything by myself pretty much so it kinda sucks and advise from experienced people always a very good help smile

ecaBRONZE Member
member
197 posts
Location: Minneapolis, MN, USA


Posted:
I just realized that I've been able to do the windmill for weeks and had no idea. lol.

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"What's a pussy-weevil?"


gypsylotusstranger
2 posts

Posted:
Can someone tell me where I can get VIDEOS that teach the moves... close up enough to see and slow enough to catch??? All the viideos I see on youtube suck! Oh and.... I've begun with glow balls....they seem long and hard to control....any suggestions?

Sister ElevenGOLD Member
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1,277 posts
Location: Seattle, WA, USA


Posted:
IMO, Derek's videos on this site and on YouTube are about as good as it gets. Nick Cann's videos are also pretty good for being able to see the motion. The only thing better is being able to spin with other people.

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ecaBRONZE Member
member
197 posts
Location: Minneapolis, MN, USA


Posted:
gypsylotus: Glow balls tend to be really light, I would suggest adding weight to them if you can. Otherwise, you can make a decent pair of poi out of a pair of socks and some rice.

Everyone one says to use 1/2 cup of rice and that worked great when I was just starting but I now find that to be way too light, I'd say try a full cup.

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"What's a pussy-weevil?"


SpinnerofDetroitGOLD Member
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2,280 posts
Location: Trenton, MI, USA


Posted:
I've always learned the best from Nick Woolsey's videos. But he doesn't have everything so for other think I almost always look at Derek's videos.

The only luck is bad luck.

Shut up before I stall my poi up your ass grin


JamethGOLD Member
enthusiast
378 posts
Location: NSW, Australia


Posted:
I found Nathaniel Everist's YT vids helpful when I was starting - he does a fair bit of beginner stuff, and that was before meenick had his beginner stuff up.

eta: for some of the more complicated stuff I capture the video then play it back slowed up. A DVD would be easier but apart from the HOP one all the DVDs I'm aware of are intermediate or above.
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Nonsensestranger
11 posts
Location: North Carolina


Posted:
Nick Woolsey's videos helped me a lot with basics, he explains really good and hes method of teaching is amazing.
but it takes a lot of practice to learn from videos and when you dont have anyone there to show you how to do it frown

ecaBRONZE Member
member
197 posts
Location: Minneapolis, MN, USA


Posted:
I just got the reverse 3 beat grin Now, gotta work on turning with the weave and linking the weave more smoothly with other moves.

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"What's a pussy-weevil?"


Mother_Natures_SonSILVER Member
Rampant whirler.
2,418 posts
Location: Geelong, Victoria, Australia!


Posted:
Nonsense, as someone that taught themself how to poi from some videos and a lot working it out on my own, I must say that the best option is to work out how you learn best.

I learned best by breaking down the components and looking at WHY things worked.

The 3 beat has components with both hands on top, so I learned the 2 beat with right hand on top, 2 beat with left hand on top, then put it together for the 3 beat.

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