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Whiffle Squeek


Whiffle Squeek

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Location: Hartford, CT USA

Total posts: 416
Posted:Just thought this might be helpful if anybody had any questions about any of the photos up...

come here and ask...


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flash fire
BRONZE Member since Jan 2001

flash fire

Sporadically Prodigal
Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia

Total posts: 2758
Posted:I actually have a question, however it may be a little controversial....

I do not intend to offend anyone at all with this, but I'd really like to know how a picture like Number One can get 92 votes when all it is is a simple fire photo similar to ones we have all seen a million times? Especially when there are so many other truely beautiful and unique pictures to choose from...

A few of the pics in teh top 10 have caused me to question whether the photo comp turned into a popularity contest? Those that have the most friends with internet access are the ones most voted for? Defeats the whole purpose of the contest.

O - and before anyone suggests that I am bitter about the rank of my photo, please save your energy. When pics like #44, #38, #11 etc mine stands no chance!!


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Kyrian


Dreamer
Location: York, England

Total posts: 4308
Posted:I'm actually seconding flash..... it's been bugging me for awhile. pics like 44 are amazing, i think we agree? but there's a lot of photos up top which really arn't all that good, imo.... as flash says, there's some very unique and interesting photographs out there.

i'm also a little curious about the "as many votes as you want" thing??? it seems like a set number per person would be more fair?


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Cassandra


Cassandra

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Location: Back in Paris... for now !

Total posts: 4224
Posted:it seems that one should not be able to know whose pic is which in order to make less "personal".

Some of them did make me smile and I liked them a lot, but I must say flash's a bit right about it ... but the competion was opened to anyone just like the video competion. it's amateur anyway ...

and i do remember that the first time I saw fire pics >I got all excited and mesmerized (and they were not that good) which explains why people voted maybe ?

just my two cents of euros

shine on
Cassandra


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Malcolm
SAPPHIRE Member since Nov 2003

Malcolm

HOP admin
Location: HOP

Total posts: 1012
Posted:I have made a few changes. Hopefully it will make a difference in the time left.
Sad that some people have used as a popularity contest.


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NYC


NYC

NYC
Location: NYC, NY, USA

Total posts: 9232
Posted:It's not a popularity contest. It's a scam.

I could have easily submitted a photo of me holding a candle, then given every kid in my school an extra credit point for voting for me with a bonus point for whoever went to the computer lab/library/internet cafe and voted the most times. Heck, I could have told all my other teacher freinds about it and easily had a few thousand votes. Plus, link this page from one of my other hobbies' website and ask others to vote for me.

I think our next competition should be purely a "who can scam the most votes" competition. I'd be down for that.

Stuffing the ballot box with all of your friends names is a popularity contest. Stealing $150 by getting your friends/relatives/co-workers to vote for you is a scam.

How many people voted anyway? Is it more than HoP members?

-I didn't submit so my disappointment is not motivated by sour grapes.


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NYC


NYC

NYC
Location: NYC, NY, USA

Total posts: 9232
Posted:Which brings me to my next point (so different it needed a different thread.)

Cass and I were talking about COL3 and I came up with an idea for COL4... Inside/with each video purchased you'd get a postcard addressed to malcolm which would have a "Viewers choice" category. This way everyone who purchased a video could stick a stamp on the card and vote (once) for such things as:

Best Poi Spinner
Best Staff Spinner

and even silly categories like...

Prettiest location
Best Costume
Best Technical Spinner
Best Fire Dancer
Best Original Music

Of course there wouldn't be money associated with each winner or Malcolm would go broke BUT it would kick everyone in the pants to spin somewhere other than behind the trailer park bathrooms in my AC/DC shirt.

I think that having a "peoples champion" as well takes some of the pressure off of the judges. The judge could still pick the grand winner.

And by including one vote in each video you'd encourage sales too! If someone wants to buy 500 videos to win and that money keeps HoP up and running, SO BE IT! Granted, you'd still have pockets of unscrupulous people voting for friends but I dont' think it'd be as bad.

[There Cassandre, I said it! Happy? ]


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Allie


member
Location: Manchester, UK

Total posts: 30
Posted:Now that sounds like a cool idea

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Malcolm
SAPPHIRE Member since Nov 2003

Malcolm

HOP admin
Location: HOP

Total posts: 1012
Posted:NYC and Cassandra

Excellent Idea
Thanks

Malcolm


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Kyrian


Dreamer
Location: York, England

Total posts: 4308
Posted:I like NYC's idea, i don't want to overwork Malcom tho, don't take on more of that than you can handle sweetie!

I also have a suggestion for col4 (shoudl we be on a new thread?)

can we do a section of non-competition submissions? perhaps you can put safeguard in that section, i.e. sponsors, right to refuse, etc, but my hope is that might encourage video footage from some people who don't want performance arts to be about competition, so that we could still watch them and learn from them.(examples including glass and dom).

just a thought.

peace & love, kyri


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Malcolm
SAPPHIRE Member since Nov 2003

Malcolm

HOP admin
Location: HOP

Total posts: 1012
Posted:Continue suggestions for COL4 here [new thread]

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Whiffle Squeek


Whiffle Squeek

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Location: Hartford, CT USA

Total posts: 416
Posted:bah, sorry to have raised such a negative topic, but i guess there were things that needed to be said...

(i had originally meant questions like "what the hell is happening in that picture?")

however, since were here, i applaud malcolm's quick reaction to this, and would like to say, that no matter what, voting is going to be flawed, it will never be perfect, especially when its online...


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Cassandra


Cassandra

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Location: Back in Paris... for now !

Total posts: 4224
Posted:As always : much respect to you Malcolm !!!! Don't be please... you know you do help and provide us with that amazing place that is HOp and all the amazing things that happen in it so THanks very very much and much respect as always

NYC ... your point is quite hard , I would not have gone that far ... but considering it from Malcolm's point of view it does make me feel a bit ...

good thing is , this is how we learn

shine on
Cass


"I want brown bread... no, that is diesel oil..."
"So I was raised in Europe, where History comes from ..."
"NON !!! La Plume de mon oncle n est pas Bingibangibungi !!!"

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Malcolm
SAPPHIRE Member since Nov 2003

Malcolm

HOP admin
Location: HOP

Total posts: 1012
Posted:Congratulations to

1st - Flynt
2nd - Phusion
3rd - Mark P
4th - Sparx
5th - Julz

Great pictures

Thanks everyone else who entered. Providing so many awesome pictures to select from.

Much respect to all

Regards

Malcolm


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THE UNITED CHAINS OF FIRE


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Location: London

Total posts: 192
Posted:WELL DONE GUYS!

I don't dance. I move to music - Some dumb schmuck, Blue Peter 16/9/02-------------------This morning, I sat on the TV and I watched the Sofa

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Fire_Emanator


member
Location: Australia

Total posts: 96
Posted:I don't think it is/was a scam ...hell I tried o rig it but I only have about 10 friends, not hundreds. I was thinking the same at some point, then in the end I guessed the public will decide. People like nice twilry wirly pics, and even prefer glow to fire... The contest was for what the public deemed the best photo, and the masses have spoken. At the end of the day it is great to have a photo up in a public place where a jury of ones peers can view you at work, and enjoy the sight.
(Think about the music charts...how the hell does that crap get on there, I aint buyin it....but someone is!)


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flash fire
BRONZE Member since Jan 2001

flash fire

Sporadically Prodigal
Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia

Total posts: 2758
Posted:I still feel my points from earlier this month were valid, but in the end some really great pics won!

I'm pleased to see that justice and good taste prevails

Well done all, especially Flynt!!!


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Flynt
SILVER Member since May 2002

Flynt

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Total posts: 5635
Posted:thanks!

i think next time it'd be really good if everything was anonomouse from day one... make it totally impartial!

*hugz malcolm for putting on the comp*

fanks again!


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Bram....


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Location: the arms of the Ganja Goddess

Total posts: 1551
Posted:or mayhap you have to get a registered voting account and can only have 1 vote per person

You. Its whats for dinner!

As time passes, you realise all the mistakes you amde and the ones you wish you never did make.

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Rozi
SILVER Member since Jan 2002

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Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia

Total posts: 2996
Posted:1st - Flynt
2nd - Phusion
3rd - Mark P
4th - Sparx
5th - Julz

Congrats & welldone for some very pw-etty piccies!!!



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Cassandra


Cassandra

Froggie ... Ribbit !!!
Location: Back in Paris... for now !

Total posts: 4224
Posted:Congrats to all of you

shine on
Cassandra


"I want brown bread... no, that is diesel oil..."
"So I was raised in Europe, where History comes from ..."
"NON !!! La Plume de mon oncle n est pas Bingibangibungi !!!"

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Mark P
BRONZE Member since Oct 2001

Mark P

old hand
Location: Bath, England

Total posts: 1031
Posted:Congratulations Flynt, that truely was an excellent photo.

Thankyou Malcolm for running the competition, I can now get my first set of tailed poi to practice indoors with

Thankyou everyone who voted for my piccy, I know Flynts was the best by far but it was lovely to come in the top 5

Mark P


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dangerboy


dangerboy

original member
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada

Total posts: 205
Posted:the one thing reading this string over that no one seems to have mentioned is that this competition was supposed to be of sexy photos. not who can weave the most geometrically precise spirograph patterns (lovely tho they are). let's try to stay on topic for the next photo comp.

db.


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DeepSoulSheep
GOLD Member since Sep 2002

DeepSoulSheep

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Berlin

Total posts: 2617
Posted:I haven't seen these pictures in ages and I'd love another look. Are they gone now?? Anyone know where they are?? Malcolm??

I live in a world of infinite possibilities.

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Malcolm
SAPPHIRE Member since Nov 2003

Malcolm

HOP admin
Location: HOP

Total posts: 1012
Posted:See pictures here

Hmmm. I must organise another one of these in the next month.


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Brannigan


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Total posts: 1
Posted:I'm sorry, I'm new to this site. Where do I post the photos at?! =/

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