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georgemc
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Posted:There's always been talk about allowing longer video clips and other sections etc (well there's always talk about the should and should not's for COL! wink ) So we listen and learn and investigate possibilities. and now we can actually do something about it without breaking everyone's bank!

Double layer DVD printing technology is now sufficiently stable and cost effective that we will be able to produce a one disk COL DVD of extended duration for not much extra cost. This allows us to open up new categories and also provide the option for increased duration clips. So we have:
http://www.homeofpoi.com/articles/video_compilation.php

New category: CoL4Kids - for the under 13's. Not a competition, but a chance to show everyone what you can do and learn and improve. We hope this section will encourage the next generation of object manipulators.

Amended rule around duration - new maximum of 5 minutes. This is a reasonably arbitary number (any number would be arbitary), but we feel we need to put "a" limit and 5 mins is as good as anything as a starting point. We don't want to encourage looooong video clips just for the sake of filling up the time so the rule says something about a target average of 3 minutes per clip and tell us your reasons if you go above 3 mins.

We've been listening and thinking about the other suggestions for new sections, professionals/amateur, hoops/juggling/staff/poi etc... at this stage, like some have said, we don't see how these can be readily distinguished between and the lines will always be blurry, so we prefer to keep everyones options open by having the one "general" category until such a time as other sections become more obviously in need of seperation from a general category.

Your continued feedback is always welcome and will help shape the future. The Rules are not fixed in stone so please, kick this around and let's see if anything needs changing...
ubbrollsmile

Oh, and in case you hadn't noticed before, I wrote a few pages about the history and philosophies of CoL into what I optimistically call an "e-book". There's some information gaps (even Malcolm's brain doesn't hold all the info wink !) so any feedback to complete and improve it would be appreciated. http://www.homeofpoi.com/articles/e-book_Circles-of-Light.pdf

George


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Posted: Written by: e-book

Malcolm has really only one rule he demands of his judges they are not allowed to disclose to anyone that they are a CoL judge. Its not about status, its about helping the community.



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 Written by: Pele


But what I am understanding from your post Durbs is that I am not allowed a personal opinion outside of being a judge.
And let me tell you, my personal opinion varies greatly from the judges eye that I view it with.




 Written by: Pyrolific


BTW - I judged in this too - and I have specifically not given crits because of this



spank bad judges wink


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Posted:rolleyes

If Josh comes to Spunout can I spank him and Katinca? wink


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Is it Fair to all concerned?
Will it build Goodwill and Better Friendships?
Will it be Beneficial to all concerned?

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georgemc
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Posted:please do! :-D
but in fairness, some of Malcolm's rules were kind of "unwritten rules" ...


Written by: Doc Lightning talking about Marmite in Kichi's Intro thread

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Posted: Written by: georgemc



but in fairness, some of Malcolm's rules were kind of "unwritten rules" ...





The kind of unwritten rules you can totally and utterly break? ubblol


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Posted:Totally

Is it the Truth?
Is it Fair to all concerned?
Will it build Goodwill and Better Friendships?
Will it be Beneficial to all concerned?

Im in a lonely battle with the world with a fish to match the chip on my shoulder. Gnu in Binnu in a cnu

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LazyAngel
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Posted:I'm planning an entry for CoL 2008: how far are we allowed to take this 5 minute rule? i.e we have plans for a 3 part performance, to sort of 'tell a story' with costumes, variety of props, performance styles, camera angles, etc: would around 5 mins be ok then?

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Durbs
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Posted:I'm planning one as well...

As I do every year *sigh*


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Posted:is it that time of year again?

Time for baiting durbs about making a video?

Time for bated breath over who gets off their ass to make an entry?

Time for worrying about when and where and how to make a COL video? It seems like the controversy has barely cleared over the last one! ubblol

Woohoo!

Not quite time for looking back and remembering just how crap you were when you made the video and how much better you are now... never mind thoughts of how much better you could have made it with just a little bit more effort...


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"the still legendary" - Kaskade

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Posted:No really, this time... wink

Anyway, you've entered one now - i'm sure that means you can sit back on your laurels until CoL 10 (Not that I'm trying to remove competition wink )


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Posted:its not worth you entering durbs. they don't let people from surrey win.

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Posted:Gosh, that deadline's creeping up ain't it.
Should probably go and do some filming at some stage....


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Posted:there's a deadline? eek

better get editing then....


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Posted:Dear orgamanizers...

Would you accept a link to an uncompressed .avi / .mpg file?

File size would be pretty darn large - but still quicker than post wink


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Posted:oooh yea that would be good.....

"Don't do it naked!"

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Posted:Or even a zipped/split file..?

Haven't got a final file size yet, but i'm guessing close to 5gb? (Non-HD uncompressed vid w/ stereo 44khz sound approx 3 mins?)


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Posted:e-mail the link to me Durbs and we'll test it out. Then we can say if it's an idea that we can go with or not.

I understand this would be good for entrants to save postage/courier cost and essentially extend the deadline a little more wink but may end us costing us excessively for download bandwidth.
We'll still need to cut the file to disk for the editing process so for us it will be more cost and effort than currently, but let's test it out as there may be benefits I haven't thought of.


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Posted:Cool - my video won't be ready for a while yet, but yeah, I can see that if everyone did this you'd get silly bandwidth usage smile

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Posted:woo hoo! I finished my entry for this year over the weekend. I think it's better than my last entry video-wise...the skills on display I'm not so sure ubblol

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Posted:frown whereas my beautiful snowy tape has become corrupted frown

ubbcrying


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Posted:Any excuse, crumbling under the pressue I think wink (hug cos I don't really)



Second draft of mine done now - already bored of it wink

Doesn't show all I wanted to show, and not as arty as I'd hoped, but still a nice vid (I hope)



Best one I've entered into CoL before that's for sure ubblol


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Posted:No way... you made a COL entry.... I DON'T BELIEVE IT!!!!!!! eek eek eek eek


eek

hug hug hug hug


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Posted:Ewwww - Meg hugs! wink

Yarp - filmed, edited, re-edited, cool FX added, cool FX removed, re-edited...
Now just got to put cool FX back on and it'll actually be almost nearly ready eek

How's your coming along?


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Posted:Dude, I've still got a month and a half... and I've got two DVD's to finish and another one for Rob come to think of it, ten tapes to edit... so it'll be maybe filmed sometime in june I reckon...

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"the still legendary" - Kaskade

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Posted:Take your time - why not wait till July? wink
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Posted:What's the deal with CC music? I mean, if I find music on jamendo say, and it's free for commercial use with attribution. Do I have to still get a peice of paper signed by the artist, or is the fact that the artist put it online under CC AT 2.5 good enough?

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"the still legendary" - Kaskade

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Posted:When is the deadline?

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poxe679
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Posted:hay if i wanted to use a really top notch dj's song how would i find out how to ask him to use his song?

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Posted: Written by : The RULES


What? Send us your video clip of Staff/Poi/Glowstick/Fire Poi/Juggling etc
When? posted to us before 30th June 2008 (we will allow 2 weeks after that for your entry to arrive)
How?
Please post your video/VCD/DVD/video cassette to
Home of Poi - circles of light
PO Box 6271
36A Sonter Road
Christchurch 8004
New Zealand.

You must also include a video submission form
and a performers release form for each performer appearing within the video
and amusic release form if your video submission includes any music.




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Posted:so i dont need his permission i just have to say who sings it and all the info???

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Posted:no, you DO need his permission, in fact you have to get him to sign on the music release form where it says

'Signature of musician/singer'


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