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MikeGinnyGOLD Member
HOP Mad Doctor
13,925 posts
Location: San Francisco, CA, USA


Posted:
On Saturday, my nephew lost a 5-year-long battle with drug addiction and depression and took his own life. He was 21.

The family is in shock, obviously. All deaths are sad, of course, but this death is beyond that: it's tragic. I haven't even seen my sister yet. She took to her bed yesterday and didn't want to be disturbed. Not even my me.

I've been back in Detroit since yesterday morning. I guess that as much as I try to shake this place, I keep coming back. I'm never in town for much more than 24 hours; why would I want to be? This place is like my umbilical cord. It sustained me and kept me alive for my formative years, but now it's nothing to me. Nobody important to me other than my sister lives here anymore. Michigan is the only state left in the U.S. that's still in a recession for the simple fact that nobody wants to live here anymore.

To me, it's nothing now. Except it's a place I remember well.

-Mike

Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella



A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura


BansheeCatBRONZE Member
veteran
1,247 posts
Location: lost, Canada


Posted:
So sad. Sending a huge hug to your and your family...

"God *was* my co-pilot, but then we crashed, and I had to eat him..."


pkBRONZE Member
Lambretta Fanatic
4,998 posts
Location: United Kingdom


Posted:
:hugs:

If you need more electronical hugs please feel free to call on me.

My regards.

BirgitBRONZE Member
had her carpal tunnel surgery already thanks v much
4,145 posts
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland (UK)


Posted:
hug
Out of personal experience of seeing a relative battle addiction and mental problems and not being able to help, I'm so sorry to hear that your nephew has lost his fight frown

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(G.W. Dahlquist)

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PeleBRONZE Member
the henna lady
6,193 posts
Location: WNY, USA


Posted:
suicide, no matter the surrounding circumstances, are so hard, so tragic.
I'm sorry that your family has to go through this, that you have to be back where you don't want to be, that one more memory will keep the place from redemption, and that your sister is blocking you out.

I have only my love to send and wishes for eventual healing, especially to your sister.
call if you wish to vent love.

:hugs:

Pele
Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir
"Oooh look! A pub!" -exclaimed after recovering from a stupid fall
"And for the decadence of art, nothing beats a roaring fire." -TMK


faith enfireBRONZE Member
wandering thru the woods of WI
3,556 posts
Location: Wisconsin, USA


Posted:
hug to you and yours

Faith
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RaveRepresentSILVER Member
addict
567 posts
Location: USA


Posted:
I'm real sorry to hear what happened. I you and your family will be in my prayers. hug's to you and your family.

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_khan_SILVER Member
old hand
768 posts
Location: San Francisco, California, USA


Posted:
Doc, I'm so sorry for your loss, especially under these circumstances. My condolences to you & your family.

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fNiGOLD Member
master of disaster
3,354 posts
Location: New York, USA


Posted:
i'm so sorry doc

*hugs*

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pounceSILVER Member
All the neurotic makings of America's lesser known sweetheart
9,831 posts
Location: body in Las Vegas, heart all around the world, USA


Posted:
*hugs* if you need to talk, you know i'm here

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GlåssDIAMOND Member
The Ministry of Manipulation
2,523 posts
Location: Bristol, United Kingdom


Posted:
Mike,
So sorry to hear it.
:hugs:
Drew

jo_rhymesSILVER Member
Momma Bear
4,525 posts
Location: Telford, Shrops, United Kingdom


Posted:
Mike frown

I don't have any words. hug

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AdeSILVER Member
Are we there yet?
1,897 posts
Location: australia


Posted:
hug hug hug

MikeGinnyGOLD Member
HOP Mad Doctor
13,925 posts
Location: San Francisco, CA, USA


Posted:
Well, the funeral is over.

I didn't know David very well these last five years. I've kind of been a crappy uncle to my nephews, I suppose. But I got to see them again. I hadn't seen any of them since my father died four years ago. They're all grown up now; the youngest is 17 and greeted me with a huge bear-hug...and then by lifting me clear off the floor. biggrin

The funeral was one of the most difficult and awkward experiences of my life. I didn't know most of the people. Many of the people were in their early 20's, not surprisingly. A funeral shouldn't be such a young crowd. It's not right. The service lasted less than 20 minutes; I don't think anyone could have taken much more. The Rabbi read everything; nobody else could give speeches for fear of breaking down. I might have tried -- I shed only a few tears -- but I didn't know the kid very well. And that's sad.

My nephew, Bobby, David's brother, was angry at David for having done this to everyone. It's an understandible sentiment towards a suicide. But I'm not angry at David; I'm angry at myself. I'm angry at myself that I didn't take the time to get to know David better. After all, he was the gay one. But I barely knew him.

So, if you'd asked me Saturday morning, I'd have told you I had eight nephews.

I'm down to seven. And it's my mission in life to get to know all of them as well as I can, to be there for them, and to be the best "young and cool" uncle I can be.

I'm at the airport right now. The day, cloudy and grey, concluded with a gorgeous purple-pink sunset. I can only think that it was David's way of saying good-bye to us. I hope he found my dad. I hope they're having dinner now. I was really looking forward to moving to California. He lived in LA and I thought he might need a positive gay role-model in his life. I guess I'll have a bit of a delay before I get to meet him now.

Godspeed, Dave. And thanks for the sunset. ubbcrying

-Mike

Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella



A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura


pineapple peteSILVER Member
water based
5,125 posts
Location: melbourne, Australia


Posted:
thoughts are with you mike hug

hug

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BrennPLATINUM Member
Will carpal your tunnel in a minute.
3,286 posts
Location: Melbourne, Australia


Posted:
Condolences hug

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Neon_ShaolinGOLD Member
hehe, 'Member' huhuh
6,120 posts
Location: Behind you. With Jam


Posted:
It's definitely a sad thing that this has happened... frown

My thoughts go out to you and to your sister and her children. hug

Don't beat yourself up about it mate. He made his choice. Chances are he might not have listened to his 'Golden Boy Gay Jewish Uncle' anyway. Unless you were actually there stopping him there's nothing you could've done.

But you seemed to have gleamed some positivity out of it. Most of us are usually so wrapped up in our own lives that usually takes some tragedy or another to make us realise what we're missing out on. That you decided to get to know your remaining nephews before it's too late is a good thing. Imagine the posibilities of the 'Gay-Jewish-Uncle-who-IS-a-doctor' jokes that could come up smile Do what feels natural but don't force it too much.

If Detriot and Michigan in general is as bad as you say it is (I've heard the jokes) could you convince your sister to move? Then again, no matter how bad it is, you don't want to uproot them as they have undoubted built up a life for themselves where they live.

The sunset sounded lovely... Peace be with you mate hug

"I used to want to change the world, now I just wanna leave the room with a little dignity..." - Lotus Weinstock


hamamelisBRONZE Member
nut.
756 posts
Location: Bouncing off the walls., England (UK)


Posted:
hug



There's not much I can add to what everyone's already said.. but.. yeah.. my thoughts go out to you all.

At least you can get some good out of a tragedy, if it brings you closer together..



When my aunt took her own life a few years ago, I lost what little contact I had with her kids as well, my (half) cousins as well, as she was the only one who wanted any contact with my side of the family... still wonder how they are..
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FireTomStargazer
6,650 posts

Posted:
Doc - first hug and condolences, second: If that is the conclusion that you are drawing from this tragedy, then it's not for nothing. It has a purpose, as everything in life. He clearly got a message and one that (young) people need to understand: If you mess with drugs and struggle more and more, seek assistance, as much and as soon as you can. If you love life and what it has to offer (which IMO an addiction indicates) then search alternative ways for "natural highs".

Life has so much more to offer and drugs are not worth to "loose it".

You're a great guy, Doc - you will be a great uncle.

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PyrolificBRONZE Member
Returning to a unique state of Equilibrium
3,289 posts
Location: Adelaide, South Australia


Posted:
My thoughts are with you Mike.

I can only speak for myself when I say thankyou for sharing this with me and reminding me about the important things in life.

hug

Josh

--
Help! My personality got stuck in this signature machine and I cant get it out!


flash fireBRONZE Member
Sporadically Prodigal
2,758 posts
Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia


Posted:
hug

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AurinkoBRONZE Member
hello!
1,034 posts
Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands


Posted:
my impression is, that if someone wants to kill himself/herself, he or she will just do it. There's not much you can do about it. it's something about the state of mind or philosophy of life, and you can't change that that easily. It's just harder to mess with someone's head than to influence his or her momentary emotions or to keep an eye on him/her 24/7. apart from the fact that such a surveilance-behaviour also drags you down.



When a friend of mine committed suicide, of course I wasn't enthousiastic. However, she was a wonderful and intelligent person and I do respect this act as her decision. It was just her way of life.



This is of course easier with a suicide than when somebody dies in an accident (a classmate of mine when I was still at school) or when somebody is killed (example: Maiuki).



I'll cut out the rest of the possible discussion, I guess this helps more: hug

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The Tea FairySILVER Member
old hand
853 posts
Location: Behind you...


Posted:
hug It's always hard. My cousin took his own life about 20 odd years ago very unexpectedly. My aunt never really came to terms with it, she just won't talk about it as it's so painful for her. I think she still blames herself a lot even though it wasn't anyone's fault.

hug for your sister too... she will really need you to be there for her over the next few months doc.

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Take me disappearing through the smoke rings of my mind....

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AnonymousPLATINUM Member


Posted:
I'm sorry to hear about that Doc. *hugs*

LazyAngelGOLD Member
Carpal \'Tunnel
2,895 posts
Location: Cambridge UK


Posted:
hug

Because ActiveAngel sounds like a feminine deodorant

Like sex, I'm much more interesting in real life than online.

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GnorBRONZE Member
Carpal \'Tunnel
5,814 posts
Location: Perth, Australia


Posted:
hug hug hug hug hug

Is it the Truth?
Is it Fair to all concerned?
Will it build Goodwill and Better Friendships?
Will it be Beneficial to all concerned?

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Pink...?BRONZE Member
Mistress of Pink...Multicoloured
6,140 posts
Location: Over There, United Kingdom


Posted:
hug

You know we're all here for you should you need anything.

Thank you for sharing this with us too, made me realise i should spend more time with my family than i do, whilst i have the chance.

Never pick up a duck in a dungeon...


_Clare_BRONZE Member
Still wiggling
5,967 posts
Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland (UK)


Posted:
hug

Getting to the other side smile


BurdaASILVER Member
Sacrebleu
377 posts
Location: At the quiet limit, United Kingdom


Posted:
I'd like to offer you a one time only offer of grouphug from all hoppers everywhere. effective immediately.

Peace&love hug

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PyroWillGOLD Member
HoP's Barman. Trapped aged 6 months
4,437 posts
Location: Staines, United Kingdom


Posted:
Hi Mike,

Hope your sister is doing well, sorry to hear of your loss

hug

An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind

Give a man a fish and he'll eat 4 a day hit a man with a brick and you can have all his fish and his wife

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StoutBRONZE Member
Pooh-Bah
1,872 posts
Location: Canada


Posted:
I'm sorry to hear that Mike

I'm sure a lot of us have family that we only see at births, weddings and funerals, don't beat yourself up over it.

hug

David

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