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ok, so who's heard of the tesco's "computers for schools" and "sports equipment for schools" promotions that tesco's has been running??
for those that don't know TESCO is the UK's largest supermarket chain ad the promotion is........ that if you spend so much money they give you a voucher that you can drop off at your local school for them to collect and send off for a new computer.
sounds ok dosen't it???
the fact is, each voucher is only worth 0.001pence
something as cheap as a football in tesco's sports stuff for schools promotion in fact costs £2000 and a new computer, as basic as you can get will cost £250.000
ok, so who's heard of the tesco's "computers for schools" and "sports equipment for schools" promotions that tesco's has been running??
for those that don't know TESCO is the UK's largest supermarket chain ad the promotion is........ that if you spend so much money they give you a voucher that you can drop off at your local school for them to collect and send off for a new computer.
sounds ok dosen't it???
the fact is, each voucher is only worth 0.001pence
something as cheap as a football in tesco's sports stuff for schools promotion in fact costs £2000 and a new computer, as basic as you can get will cost £250.000
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and how long has this been going on for... i remember tesco's computers for school started many many years ago...
how many vouchers do you get if the family shopping comes to £90 a week?.
And isn't that what school fees and tax payers money used for?... buying computers for schools???
IT was crap when i was at school... remember those old BBC's... ("fa una sega con quelli
")
my amiga was fookin ace though!, that paperboy and jet set willy games were far the best but Daily Thompson's decathlon was way way better.
and how long has this been going on for... i remember tesco's computers for school started many many years ago...
how many vouchers do you get if the family shopping comes to £90 a week?.
And isn't that what school fees and tax payers money used for?... buying computers for schools???
IT was crap when i was at school... remember those old BBC's... ("fa una sega con quelli
")my amiga was fookin ace though!, that paperboy and jet set willy games were far the best but Daily Thompson's decathlon was way way better.
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It's always useful, I think, to post a link substantiating stats like that.
Then, the info can be trusted and spread.
I am aware of the Tesco thing being a scam and think it would be really useful to spread info about just how much of a rip-off schemes like this are.
So much of UK business is scam-based- BBCs 'Watchdog' does good work on challenging them (eg, tonight, giving BTs management a grilling about their new extra charge for customers who don't wish to pay by direct debit); maybe you should get in touch with them.
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the fact is, each voucher is only worth 0.001pence
something as cheap as a football in tesco's sports stuff for schools promotion in fact costs £2000 and a new computer, as basic as you can get will cost £250.000
It's always useful, I think, to post a link substantiating stats like that.
Then, the info can be trusted and spread.
I am aware of the Tesco thing being a scam and think it would be really useful to spread info about just how much of a rip-off schemes like this are.
So much of UK business is scam-based- BBCs 'Watchdog' does good work on challenging them (eg, tonight, giving BTs management a grilling about their new extra charge for customers who don't wish to pay by direct debit); maybe you should get in touch with them.
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Are you confusing the "actual cash value" of the voucher with its exchange value?
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the fact is, each voucher is only worth 0.001pence
Are you confusing the "actual cash value" of the voucher with its exchange value?
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You know..that program has been running for 15 years and has generated in excess of 100 million pounds for school programs. Methinks you better find out what that cash value 0.001 pence really means, before considering this program a swindle.
We have the same sort of program here..it's good.
Bring up the tesco website..do the math..then tell me that it's inconceivable that a class of 30 students couldn't get enough vouchers to get a computer in a year or two.
You know..that program has been running for 15 years and has generated in excess of 100 million pounds for school programs. Methinks you better find out what that cash value 0.001 pence really means, before considering this program a swindle.
We have the same sort of program here..it's good.
Bring up the tesco website..do the math..then tell me that it's inconceivable that a class of 30 students couldn't get enough vouchers to get a computer in a year or two.
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quite possibley, but the fact remains a simpe £12 football in ANY sports store will cost £2000 in vouchers
quite possibley, but the fact remains a simpe £12 football in ANY sports store will cost £2000 in vouchers
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did anyone in the UK watch dispatches about tesco???
basicly tesco own so much land that if they decided to build oneach plot they wouls own 99.99% of the market share for supermarkets.
personally i dont use supermarkets, i preffer to go to a butchers, a fish mongers or a bakery individually rather than line the pockets of big businesses like tesco
did anyone in the UK watch dispatches about tesco???
basicly tesco own so much land that if they decided to build oneach plot they wouls own 99.99% of the market share for supermarkets.
personally i dont use supermarkets, i preffer to go to a butchers, a fish mongers or a bakery individually rather than line the pockets of big businesses like tesco
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I saw the doc.
Fact is that Tesco do not care about communities- their adverts try to give the impression that they do care, but that's only cos they believe it will lead to more business.
Their voucher schemes ads give the impression that they care about schools and communities- that is inaccurate.
Stout- I respect what you're saying, but the fact is that, if Tesco made clear exactly how much purchase is required for a given amount of equipment cash, that members of the public simply would not bother.
This thread has come up at a time when i personally am absolutely sick of the UK 'scam-ethos' that is part and parcel of the big businesses.
ie
1. the banks scam charges, now, thankfully, having to be repaid in full to those victims organised enough to threaten legal action
2. Royal mails shoddy service, millions of lost deliveris and a refusal to take responsibility
3. the increasing use of imposed extra charges for utilities customers who don't wish to use direct debit.
Yes, of course it's better for the companies if we pay by direct debit, but, for many customers it's not, often leading to accounts going into overdraft and hence falling victim to the above mentioned bank charges scam.
If I use x amount of gas, I should be able to pay for it with a cheque, without being penalised.
Tesco are just another example of this approach to business based on deception, truth-bending and a lack of regard for what people actually want.
I saw the doc.
Fact is that Tesco do not care about communities- their adverts try to give the impression that they do care, but that's only cos they believe it will lead to more business.
Their voucher schemes ads give the impression that they care about schools and communities- that is inaccurate.
Stout- I respect what you're saying, but the fact is that, if Tesco made clear exactly how much purchase is required for a given amount of equipment cash, that members of the public simply would not bother.
This thread has come up at a time when i personally am absolutely sick of the UK 'scam-ethos' that is part and parcel of the big businesses.
ie
1. the banks scam charges, now, thankfully, having to be repaid in full to those victims organised enough to threaten legal action
2. Royal mails shoddy service, millions of lost deliveris and a refusal to take responsibility
3. the increasing use of imposed extra charges for utilities customers who don't wish to use direct debit.
Yes, of course it's better for the companies if we pay by direct debit, but, for many customers it's not, often leading to accounts going into overdraft and hence falling victim to the above mentioned bank charges scam.
If I use x amount of gas, I should be able to pay for it with a cheque, without being penalised.
Tesco are just another example of this approach to business based on deception, truth-bending and a lack of regard for what people actually want.
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Yea..I just worked the football thing out to being about 0.6 % of the total value of goods purchased. An alternative would be to buy at shops who undercut tesco by the same percentage then just donate the savings to the school.
This is simply advertising..but I wouldn't call it sinister...like a major soft drink company offering to donate computers and sports equipment to a school in exchange for having their vending machines on the school grounds.
Yea..I just worked the football thing out to being about 0.6 % of the total value of goods purchased. An alternative would be to buy at shops who undercut tesco by the same percentage then just donate the savings to the school.
This is simply advertising..but I wouldn't call it sinister...like a major soft drink company offering to donate computers and sports equipment to a school in exchange for having their vending machines on the school grounds.
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vending machines are banned in UK schools so tesco has cornered the market and onewheeldave
i couldn't have put it better (without swearing) 
vending machines are banned in UK schools so tesco has cornered the market and onewheeldave
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The trouble is there are far fewer butchers, fishmongers or greengrocers around, and most people think it's just 'easier' to go to Tescos.
To be honest, I hate the place. So many times I've been in and the stuff on the shelves has been rotten, out of date and dripping, that I can't stand to even walk in the store anymore.
The trouble is there are far fewer butchers, fishmongers or greengrocers around, and most people think it's just 'easier' to go to Tescos.
To be honest, I hate the place. So many times I've been in and the stuff on the shelves has been rotten, out of date and dripping, that I can't stand to even walk in the store anymore.
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Ravehead, where did you get these stats from?
Ravehead, where did you get these stats from?
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from the dispatches program aired on national telivision will
from the dispatches program aired on national telivision will
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What it says is "Actual Cash Value 0.001p" - this is to prevent people buying/selling them, as you can't buy things above face value (e.g. Glasto tickets ).
Tesco will have bought a load of PCs at waaaaaaaaay below RRP.
Anyway, to qoute their own figures "In 2006 UK Schools received £9.5m of equipment" - so it's still delivering IT resources to school, which by fair means or foul is still a good thing IMHO.
No-one (well, very few people) is going to buy a new PC for thie kids school. But people will shop at Tesco at least once a week, spending around what - £60-80 on a weekly shop for a family of 4?
I don't personally see the harm (or the swindle)
What it says is "Actual Cash Value 0.001p" - this is to prevent people buying/selling them, as you can't buy things above face value (e.g. Glasto tickets
).Tesco will have bought a load of PCs at waaaaaaaaay below RRP.
Anyway, to qoute their own figures "In 2006 UK Schools received £9.5m of equipment" - so it's still delivering IT resources to school, which by fair means or foul is still a good thing IMHO.
No-one (well, very few people) is going to buy a new PC for thie kids school. But people will shop at Tesco at least once a week, spending around what - £60-80 on a weekly shop for a family of 4?
I don't personally see the harm (or the swindle)
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PS: www.computersforschools.co.uk
PS: www.computersforschools.co.uk
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it's a blatent marketing ploy aimed indirectly at children
https://www.supermarket-sweep-up.com/index.php?paged=2
just about sums up what i've been saying
it's a blatent marketing ploy aimed indirectly at children
https://www.supermarket-sweep-up.com/index.php?paged=2
just about sums up what i've been saying
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Marketing ploy or not - I doubt many people will change their shopping habits to collect computer vouchers (Sainsbury's are offering sports equipment ones anyway) - and people won't buy more to get more vouchers. They just do their regular shop, then get given the vouchers.
50% of customers probably turn the vouchers down at the checkout anyway.
It doesn't cost people anymore to get the vouchers and it's improving shools facilities.
It's not aimed at children, it's aimed at parents with children - who are subject to much more aggressive advertising campaigns by toy manufacturers anyway...
Marketing ploy or not - I doubt many people will change their shopping habits to collect computer vouchers (Sainsbury's are offering sports equipment ones anyway) - and people won't buy more to get more vouchers. They just do their regular shop, then get given the vouchers.
50% of customers probably turn the vouchers down at the checkout anyway.
It doesn't cost people anymore to get the vouchers and it's improving shools facilities.
It's not aimed at children, it's aimed at parents with children - who are subject to much more aggressive advertising campaigns by toy manufacturers anyway...
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to take a quote..........
"schools actively encourage parents to do this, as a way of getting equipment (which the GOVERNMENT should be providing anyway)."
not that it really matters, as local councles are selling off school land anyway, more than likely to tesco but thats nither here nor there
also...........
Tesco tower blights Kensington
"Tesco has yet again courted controversy by appearing to camouflage its involvement in the project, since the retail giant’s name was omitted from planning documents, reports and architectural drawings of the building available to the public. Tesco has offered the Council a “sweetener” of over £728,000 “towards education provision” if the project is given the go-ahead, and the inclusion in the plan of 155 “affordable units” may also add to pressure to pass the application."
this is typiclal of tesco, they have MP's in their pockets, they bully local planning departments into submission.
MP blasts Tesco over tunnel collapse
"Conservative MP for Beaconsfield, Dominic Grieve, has attacked Tesco over its handling of the rail-tunnel Collapse at Gerrard’s Cross in Buckinghamshire 18 months ago. He told a Westminster Comittee that Tesco was guilty of a “catalogue of failures and should never have had planning permission (for the superstore) in the first place” (readers will recall that the Deputy PM John Prescott waived through an appeal by Tesco in spite of rejection of the original application by two separate planning comittees and widespread local opposition). The MP maintained that the building had been badly constructed and that Tesco showed a lack of diligence and urgency in tackling the aftermath of the collapse"
to take a quote..........
"schools actively encourage parents to do this, as a way of getting equipment (which the GOVERNMENT should be providing anyway)."
not that it really matters, as local councles are selling off school land anyway, more than likely to tesco but thats nither here nor there
also...........
Tesco tower blights Kensington
"Tesco has yet again courted controversy by appearing to camouflage its involvement in the project, since the retail giant’s name was omitted from planning documents, reports and architectural drawings of the building available to the public. Tesco has offered the Council a “sweetener” of over £728,000 “towards education provision” if the project is given the go-ahead, and the inclusion in the plan of 155 “affordable units” may also add to pressure to pass the application."
this is typiclal of tesco, they have MP's in their pockets, they bully local planning departments into submission.
MP blasts Tesco over tunnel collapse
"Conservative MP for Beaconsfield, Dominic Grieve, has attacked Tesco over its handling of the rail-tunnel Collapse at Gerrard’s Cross in Buckinghamshire 18 months ago. He told a Westminster Comittee that Tesco was guilty of a “catalogue of failures and should never have had planning permission (for the superstore) in the first place” (readers will recall that the Deputy PM John Prescott waived through an appeal by Tesco in spite of rejection of the original application by two separate planning comittees and widespread local opposition). The MP maintained that the building had been badly constructed and that Tesco showed a lack of diligence and urgency in tackling the aftermath of the collapse"
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Well, the last 3 paragraphs are
It's a completely seperate debate about supermarkets, and Tesco's influence in particular.
"schools actively encourage parents to do this, as a way of getting equipment"
You mean, do their weekly shop and collect vouchers for their kids to give in at school? The bastards
Of course schools are encouraging this, it gets them more equipment. I really don't think parents are going to buy more food to get more vouchers. The schools aren't saying "spend £20 more per week shopping", they're saying "could you please collect the vouchers which you get given anyway".
I don't think people will go to Tesco instead of Sainbury's because of this - Sainsbury's are running a similair scheme anyway.
And even if it does "cost people" £250,000 for a PC - they're spending that money anyway, it's not being added to their bill. Asking people to run a fundraiser at school or donate money to a PC fund, would cost them more than this scheme.
To break it down to it's smallest parts:
Tesco want people to shop there, so they offer a voucher for every £10 you spend. People will spend that money there anyway. Tesco then give schools PCs...
I'd say the overall benefit far out-weighs the Tesco-hating rhetoric
Well, the last 3 paragraphs are
It's a completely seperate debate about supermarkets, and Tesco's influence in particular.
"schools actively encourage parents to do this, as a way of getting equipment"
You mean, do their weekly shop and collect vouchers for their kids to give in at school? The bastards Of course schools are encouraging this, it gets them more equipment. I really don't think parents are going to buy more food to get more vouchers. The schools aren't saying "spend £20 more per week shopping", they're saying "could you please collect the vouchers which you get given anyway".
I don't think people will go to Tesco instead of Sainbury's because of this - Sainsbury's are running a similair scheme anyway.
And even if it does "cost people" £250,000 for a PC - they're spending that money anyway, it's not being added to their bill. Asking people to run a fundraiser at school or donate money to a PC fund, would cost them more than this scheme.
To break it down to it's smallest parts:
Tesco want people to shop there, so they offer a voucher for every £10 you spend. People will spend that money there anyway. Tesco then give schools PCs...
I'd say the overall benefit far out-weighs the Tesco-hating rhetoric
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it must be one hell of a computer to cost £250 THOUSND what ever happened to school having jumble sales???
it must be one hell of a computer to cost £250 THOUSND
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Ravehead, the point is, if you do your normal shopping AND collect the vouchers ON TOP of what you'd usually do (i.e. jumble sales, cake sales, collection tins, or nothing), there's an additional benefit. Where's the problem with that? On top of that you get vouchers for handing in old mobile phones and empty ink cartridges, which some people still just bin... and the website states clearly how many vouchers you need to get a certain piece of equipment, so I fail to see the deception.
Ravehead, the point is, if you do your normal shopping AND collect the vouchers ON TOP of what you'd usually do (i.e. jumble sales, cake sales, collection tins, or nothing), there's an additional benefit. Where's the problem with that? On top of that you get vouchers for handing in old mobile phones and empty ink cartridges, which some people still just bin... and the website states clearly how many vouchers you need to get a certain piece of equipment, so I fail to see the deception.
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Your numbers dude...
It's basically saying people have to spend £250,000 in order to get a PC
The vouchers "value" is redundant. If it was actually worth 0.001p, then £250,000 x £0.00001 = 25p which I don't think even Tesco get their PCs for
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something as cheap as a football in tesco's sports stuff for schools promotion in fact costs £2000 and a new computer, as basic as you can get will cost £250.000
Your numbers dude...
It's basically saying people have to spend £250,000 in order to get a PC
The vouchers "value" is redundant. If it was actually worth 0.001p, then £250,000 x £0.00001 = 25p which I don't think even Tesco get their PCs for
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£2.50, but you're still right
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« Channel 4 dispatches Small shops strike back! »
Supermarket insider sounds off!
One respondent (who worked for a major retailer) wrote this recently on the BBC “Action network” response page about supermarkets:
“Don’t Give Your Money To This Greedy Company. Very Little Helps You, Every Little Helps Them:
1. Who Pays The Price For Two For The Price Of One? Supermarket or the Supplier, You Decide
2. How Can A Large Chicken Only Cost 99p? Either it’s a Quality Chicken or Its pumped full of Cheap water, You Decide
3. There is a nice Market down the road near you somewhere, Here they sell Quality produce, and your money is going into the hands of a small trader. You Decide
4. Did they pump 2 Billion Pound Profit Back Into Your Comunity Last Year? You Decide.
I have decided after working in there IT department: I decided this company is greedy; I decided this company is up to No good; I decided, they do label their customers despite their adverts, They profile you from your clubcard data.
Just think how much they know about you: They know you have a partner - you buy male and femail products; They will Know if you split up - you stop buying products for your partner ;They know when you have a baby - you start buying nappies; They have a good idea what hours you work; They know exactly when you shop; They know you have a pet - you buy pet products; They know all about your finances - you have their mortgage, you have their credit cards and you have their loan; They know what car you have - you have their insurance; They Know who your friends are - you have their mobile.
They send you three vouchers for things you buy and four vouchers for things they think you should by, Why do they think you should buy these things? They probably know more about you than you do.
I decided they won’t get my money anymore. Your Decide, Do your Own Research Like I Did”.
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« Channel 4 dispatches Small shops strike back! »
Supermarket insider sounds off!
One respondent (who worked for a major retailer) wrote this recently on the BBC “Action network” response page about supermarkets:
“Don’t Give Your Money To This Greedy Company. Very Little Helps You, Every Little Helps Them:
1. Who Pays The Price For Two For The Price Of One? Supermarket or the Supplier, You Decide
2. How Can A Large Chicken Only Cost 99p? Either it’s a Quality Chicken or Its pumped full of Cheap water, You Decide
3. There is a nice Market down the road near you somewhere, Here they sell Quality produce, and your money is going into the hands of a small trader. You Decide
4. Did they pump 2 Billion Pound Profit Back Into Your Comunity Last Year? You Decide.
I have decided after working in there IT department: I decided this company is greedy; I decided this company is up to No good; I decided, they do label their customers despite their adverts, They profile you from your clubcard data.
Just think how much they know about you: They know you have a partner - you buy male and femail products; They will Know if you split up - you stop buying products for your partner ;They know when you have a baby - you start buying nappies; They have a good idea what hours you work; They know exactly when you shop; They know you have a pet - you buy pet products; They know all about your finances - you have their mortgage, you have their credit cards and you have their loan; They know what car you have - you have their insurance; They Know who your friends are - you have their mobile.
They send you three vouchers for things you buy and four vouchers for things they think you should by, Why do they think you should buy these things? They probably know more about you than you do.
I decided they won’t get my money anymore. Your Decide, Do your Own Research Like I Did”.
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Which, by ravehead's math, would mean it was bought using 9.5 BILLION vouchers.
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Anyway, to qoute their own figures "In 2006 UK Schools received £9.5m of equipment" - so it's still delivering IT resources to school, which by fair means or foul is still a good thing IMHO.
Which, by ravehead's math, would mean it was bought using 9.5 BILLION vouchers.
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
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Nicely off-topic, well done
There's loads of arguements about all supermarkets, not just Tesco. They just attract the most criticisms as they're the largest.
They profile you on your clubcard usage? Is that a surprise? Your bank/credit-card company do that too. I've been called up twice by mine after I bought something, they said "You used your card to buy something out-of-character - just checking your card hasn't been stolen".
The reason they give you the Clubcard in the first place is to keep you shopping there - if you can't see their reasoning behind this, more fool you.
Everything they do is open, or at the least not at all concealed.
Tesco definitely aren't the only company keeping tabs on what you buy, what you drive, where you holiday... It's called market research and it's a multi-million pound industry.
1) 2-for-1 offers? Most of the time the suppliers aren't aware of it. The shop just absorbs the loss (although with a mark-up on some products as high as 80%, it's not a great loss), and sit back as you buy more complimentary goods and come back to them for more offers.
2) 99p chicken - who buys that and expects quality?
3) Yes...and...? This is the same with any independent retailer - compare small record shops with HMV, corner shops with WHSmiths etc.
4) No, but neither did my local greengrocer give a proportional amount. Something is better than nothing - and whether Tesco sponsor lots of charities and fund school initiatives out of goodwill or tax evasion, it's still of benefit to society as a whole.
It's called economies of scale - the bigger they are, the cheaper they're able to offer goods and services. Yes, the lower prices are inevitably passed on to people further down the chain, but those on lower incomes, who can't afford to shop at the more-expensive independent retailer down the road are the same people shopping at Tesco in the first place.
Nicely off-topic, well done
There's loads of arguements about all supermarkets, not just Tesco. They just attract the most criticisms as they're the largest.
They profile you on your clubcard usage? Is that a surprise? Your bank/credit-card company do that too. I've been called up twice by mine after I bought something, they said "You used your card to buy something out-of-character - just checking your card hasn't been stolen".
The reason they give you the Clubcard in the first place is to keep you shopping there - if you can't see their reasoning behind this, more fool you.
Everything they do is open, or at the least not at all concealed.
Tesco definitely aren't the only company keeping tabs on what you buy, what you drive, where you holiday... It's called market research and it's a multi-million pound industry.
1) 2-for-1 offers? Most of the time the suppliers aren't aware of it. The shop just absorbs the loss (although with a mark-up on some products as high as 80%, it's not a great loss), and sit back as you buy more complimentary goods and come back to them for more offers.
2) 99p chicken - who buys that and expects quality?
3) Yes...and...? This is the same with any independent retailer - compare small record shops with HMV, corner shops with WHSmiths etc.
4) No, but neither did my local greengrocer give a proportional amount. Something is better than nothing - and whether Tesco sponsor lots of charities and fund school initiatives out of goodwill or tax evasion, it's still of benefit to society as a whole.
It's called economies of scale - the bigger they are, the cheaper they're able to offer goods and services. Yes, the lower prices are inevitably passed on to people further down the chain, but those on lower incomes, who can't afford to shop at the more-expensive independent retailer down the road are the same people shopping at Tesco in the first place.
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Posted:
In order to get a "better" price at Tesco...do you need to have one of those club cards ? We have a local grocery chain that operates that way and although I don't shop there because I have to drive half way across town to get there, I don't like the idea of leaving a trail of what kind of food I buy.
I know it's not earth shattering information,,like my ISP knowing what type of porn I accidentally surfed once, or any of the "questionable" sites I've visited..like how to make crystal meth, or a pipe bomb but most of the information a company like Tesco is going to collect won't give them any special insight into your life other than what type of advertising they should target you with.
My credit card companies have the same sort of info, but I can't imagine that they'll be even remotely interested in the fact that I have an overweight cat ( from buying food for fat cats ) So they collect a bunch of useless information, it's the stuff that can earn you a trip to Guantanamo bay with a set of jumper cables hooked up to your gonads, that you want to keep really secret.
In order to get a "better" price at Tesco...do you need to have one of those club cards ? We have a local grocery chain that operates that way and although I don't shop there because I have to drive half way across town to get there, I don't like the idea of leaving a trail of what kind of food I buy.
I know it's not earth shattering information,,like my ISP knowing what type of porn I accidentally surfed once, or any of the "questionable" sites I've visited..like how to make crystal meth, or a pipe bomb but most of the information a company like Tesco is going to collect won't give them any special insight into your life other than what type of advertising they should target you with.
My credit card companies have the same sort of info, but I can't imagine that they'll be even remotely interested in the fact that I have an overweight cat ( from buying food for fat cats ) So they collect a bunch of useless information, it's the stuff that can earn you a trip to Guantanamo bay with a set of jumper cables hooked up to your gonads, that you want to keep really secret.
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Posted:
In that it related directly to the first post in this thread? Or in that it didn't relate to your tangent?
Written by: Durbs
Nicely off-topic, well done
In that it related directly to the first post in this thread? Or in that it didn't relate to your tangent?
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
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Posted:
The tesco online catalogue of school equipment says that an RM ecoquiet PC (the first one I found) costs 27,010 vouchers.
At one voucher for every £10 that's £270100 for the computer
The thing is though - to the school the only cost is the time spent counting out the vouchers that are handed in.
Even though it is still a fairly obvious marketing ploy, I reckon that any free equipment to schools is a good thing.
EDITED_BY: TheBovrilMonkey (1173969869)
Written by: ravehead
something as cheap as a football in tesco's sports stuff for schools promotion in fact costs £2000 and a new computer, as basic as you can get will cost £250.000
The tesco online catalogue of school equipment says that an RM ecoquiet PC (the first one I found) costs 27,010 vouchers.
At one voucher for every £10 that's £270100 for the computer
The thing is though - to the school the only cost is the time spent counting out the vouchers that are handed in.
Even though it is still a fairly obvious marketing ploy, I reckon that any free equipment to schools is a good thing.
EDITED_BY: TheBovrilMonkey (1173969869)
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Posted:
I feel like the wording you're all using is misleading. Isn't it really £270100 for £270100 worth of Tesco's groceries PLUS a computer?
You don't just hand Tesco's £270100 and they buy a school a computer right?
I understand it's probably not as high of a percent as you all donate from your salary to schools but it's still something.
[Note: I certainly agree with MANY of the arguements against Tescos and others. I'm not sure that "They donate more to schools than most other buisinesses" is on of my arguements against them.]
Written by: TheBovrilMonkeyWritten by: ravehead
something as cheap as a football in tesco's sports stuff for schools promotion in fact costs £2000 and a new computer, as basic as you can get will cost £250.000
The tesco online catalogue of school equipment says that an RM ecoquiet PC (the first one I found) costs 27,010 vouchers.
At one voucher for every £10 that's £270100 for the computer
I feel like the wording you're all using is misleading. Isn't it really £270100 for £270100 worth of Tesco's groceries PLUS a computer?
You don't just hand Tesco's £270100 and they buy a school a computer right?
I understand it's probably not as high of a percent as you all donate from your salary to schools but it's still something.
[Note: I certainly agree with MANY of the arguements against Tescos and others. I'm not sure that "They donate more to schools than most other buisinesses" is on of my arguements against them.]
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
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Posted:
"the GOVERNMENT should be supplying schools"
bov, if a school held a jumble sale where ALL proceeds went directly to the school then they could get a far better computer than anything ANY supermarket has to offer through a "computers for shcools" promotion
"the GOVERNMENT should be supplying schools"
bov, if a school held a jumble sale where ALL proceeds went directly to the school then they could get a far better computer than anything ANY supermarket has to offer through a "computers for shcools" promotion
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