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i was wondering if any1 could tell me how to do flame body passes- you know, when u hav fuel on, lets say ur hand and light that with one wick then light another wick with ur hand? i really wanna know how to do this, thanx
i was wondering if any1 could tell me how to do flame body passes- you know, when u hav fuel on, lets say ur hand and light that with one wick then light another wick with ur hand? i really wanna know how to do this, thanx
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Posted:
hello there!
best to do a searcha s it has been discussed in the past
look for 'traces'
hello there!
best to do a searcha s it has been discussed in the past
look for 'traces'
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OOh I want to know how to do that too. not yet moved on to fire but it would make me look good.
OOh I want to know how to do that too. not yet moved on to fire but it would make me look good.
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I have seen it and I agree that it would probably be best if you searched...
I would like to get into it too but I am not totally sure if I am going to. I use the right fuel so...I think I eventually will
I have seen it and I agree that it would probably be best if you searched...
I would like to get into it too but I am not totally sure if I am going to. I use the right fuel so...I think I eventually will
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Oh goody, one I can answer (for those too lazy to search).
There's an identical technique in fire eating (seems all the "fire" performance arts have the same basics) that I'm actually pretty decent at. My instructor called it a body pass, I call it a good bit of stage presence.
The first thing to realize for this basic trick is that your wick is basically a sponge. It's holding a lot of fuel in reserve and if you "squeeze" it, it will let some out.
1.) To accomplish the "juicing" portion of the trick, slide your unlit wick down one of your body parts. For poi I guess this means intentionally bounce it off yourself, leaving a patch of fuel behind. You can pass fuel from a lit wick, but you need a bit of practice judging just how much fuel is still on it. You will get nothing from one that's been burning a while, and too much from a freshly lit one.
Assuming you used the unlit wick to apply a patch of fuel to yourself, you've got a bit of time to cover up the "accident" of hitting yourself. If you used the lit wick, jump to step three because you're already on fire and you need to fix that fast!
2.) Bring the lit wick right across the wet patch. Boom, now you're on fire. If you're using 95% Alcohol, Zippo fuel, Colemans camping fuel, or lighter fluid it should catch right away without physical contact. Kerosene, or 70% Alcohol, you're going to need a light brush.
3.) Bring the unlit wick just past the burning patch of fuel. The above notes on fuel carries over.
4.) In one smooth motion wipe the burning portion out with another body part. You're looking to smother the fire before it gets a chance to burn you. You're going to want to practice this smothering move very carefully before you need to do it while juggling fire too. Initially I wore thick denim jeans to practice my body passes but eventually you can do it on bare skin if you're fast enough. Bare skin is a crowd pleaser because of the danger.
Over time you'll get better at "juicing" your wicks and can probably integrate steps one and two. Perhaps you whack yourself in the shin with the lit one hard enough to leave a bit of fuel behind, bring the unlit one right over it (passing the flame), and while you spin on that toe your non-burning leg brushes right down and smothers the fire.
To the audience it looks like you're twirling, suddenly catch fire, pass the fire to the other torch, and miraculously stop burning all in one movement. A guaranteed crowd pleaser every time.
I highly recommend the book "The Professional's Guide to Fire Eating" by Brian Brushwood. It's chock full of good stage presence, important safety tips, and equipment advice even if you aren't extinguishing your wicks with your mouth. I own a copy, and have given away a few more, it really is a great book for those interested in putting on a fire based show.
Oh goody, one I can answer (for those too lazy to search).
There's an identical technique in fire eating (seems all the "fire" performance arts have the same basics) that I'm actually pretty decent at. My instructor called it a body pass, I call it a good bit of stage presence.
The first thing to realize for this basic trick is that your wick is basically a sponge. It's holding a lot of fuel in reserve and if you "squeeze" it, it will let some out.
1.) To accomplish the "juicing" portion of the trick, slide your unlit wick down one of your body parts. For poi I guess this means intentionally bounce it off yourself, leaving a patch of fuel behind. You can pass fuel from a lit wick, but you need a bit of practice judging just how much fuel is still on it. You will get nothing from one that's been burning a while, and too much from a freshly lit one.
Assuming you used the unlit wick to apply a patch of fuel to yourself, you've got a bit of time to cover up the "accident" of hitting yourself. If you used the lit wick, jump to step three because you're already on fire and you need to fix that fast!
2.) Bring the lit wick right across the wet patch. Boom, now you're on fire. If you're using 95% Alcohol, Zippo fuel, Colemans camping fuel, or lighter fluid it should catch right away without physical contact. Kerosene, or 70% Alcohol, you're going to need a light brush.
3.) Bring the unlit wick just past the burning patch of fuel. The above notes on fuel carries over.
4.) In one smooth motion wipe the burning portion out with another body part. You're looking to smother the fire before it gets a chance to burn you. You're going to want to practice this smothering move very carefully before you need to do it while juggling fire too. Initially I wore thick denim jeans to practice my body passes but eventually you can do it on bare skin if you're fast enough. Bare skin is a crowd pleaser because of the danger.
Over time you'll get better at "juicing" your wicks and can probably integrate steps one and two. Perhaps you whack yourself in the shin with the lit one hard enough to leave a bit of fuel behind, bring the unlit one right over it (passing the flame), and while you spin on that toe your non-burning leg brushes right down and smothers the fire.
To the audience it looks like you're twirling, suddenly catch fire, pass the fire to the other torch, and miraculously stop burning all in one movement. A guaranteed crowd pleaser every time.
I highly recommend the book "The Professional's Guide to Fire Eating" by Brian Brushwood. It's chock full of good stage presence, important safety tips, and equipment advice even if you aren't extinguishing your wicks with your mouth. I own a copy, and have given away a few more, it really is a great book for those interested in putting on a fire based show.
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Oh, a quick look at my book shelf shows that Brushwood broke this trick down and devoted a few pages to it. He just called it "Pants on Fire" and uses it as the basis for a few other tricks.
Oh, a quick look at my book shelf shows that Brushwood broke this trick down and devoted a few pages to it. He just called it "Pants on Fire" and uses it as the basis for a few other tricks.
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Well...I think you give a wonderful breakdown of it here, thanks very much for that
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Well...I think you give a wonderful breakdown of it here, thanks very much for that
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Searched "traces" but there were about 20 pages finding "nut traces"... not quite what I expected to find.
Thanks to TheCaitiff for the summary. I think I just try playing around with a torch, fuel and the ground
Also, not that I'm ever going to do it, but does the same technique apply for fire passes with the tongue?
Searched "traces" but there were about 20 pages finding "nut traces"... not quite what I expected to find.
Thanks to TheCaitiff for the summary. I think I just try playing around with a torch, fuel and the ground
Also, not that I'm ever going to do it, but does the same technique apply for fire passes with the tongue?
hm, pinecones, my favourits!
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That would be gutzy!
That would be gutzy!
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Wow, this mystery has had me baffled forever, thank you!
Wow, this mystery has had me baffled forever, thank you!
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Tried to set myself on fire with kerosene, but it didn't catch so I am going to try other fuel. On a website someone suggested mixing kerosene and another fuel which has a lower flashpoint. Anyone has any experience with that? What about lighter fluid, is that good for traces?
Tried to set myself on fire with kerosene, but it didn't catch so I am going to try other fuel. On a website someone suggested mixing kerosene and another fuel which has a lower flashpoint. Anyone has any experience with that? What about lighter fluid, is that good for traces?
hm, pinecones, my favourits!
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Some of the better stuff I have seen this done with is white gas, different alcohols and also a white gas and lamp oil mix. I could have guessed that Kero would not have done well for traces since it is a slow lighting fuel, though a mix might do better.
You will probably want something that ignites quick like the ones I described and also theCaitiff made up a very good description above on this thread that you should refer to.
Some of the better stuff I have seen this done with is white gas, different alcohols and also a white gas and lamp oil mix. I could have guessed that Kero would not have done well for traces since it is a slow lighting fuel, though a mix might do better.
You will probably want something that ignites quick like the ones I described and also theCaitiff made up a very good description above on this thread that you should refer to.
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kinda random thought, i just saw this video of a guy with a staff, both ends are on fire and he tosses it a little bit to get his hands on the ends, throws the staff WAY up in the air and uses his burning hands to spit fire. it looked WICKED it was on youtube "3 days in oregon" i tihnk i twas called, towards the end.
kinda random thought, i just saw this video of a guy with a staff, both ends are on fire and he tosses it a little bit to get his hands on the ends, throws the staff WAY up in the air and uses his burning hands to spit fire. it looked WICKED it was on youtube "3 days in oregon" i tihnk i twas called, towards the end.
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That was a totally awsome video and thanks for sharing it poje! I really enjoyed that!
That was a totally awsome video and thanks for sharing it poje! I really enjoyed that!
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Thanks for the info on fuels. You are right, it was already in the thread... doooh!
Thanks for the info on fuels. You are right, it was already in the thread... doooh!
hm, pinecones, my favourits!
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It is ok...we all have our moments! I know I do too!
It is ok...we all have our moments! I know I do too!
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Okay, read a bit more about fuels and stuff but it's very confusing so can anyone (from OZ?) tell me if it's "safe" to mix Kero and Shellite? And then do traces with it?
I read a Shellite thread but it did not really specify on traces but someone said it was actually fine (said it was "cold" fire ) but others said too volatile for safe use.
Okay, read a bit more about fuels and stuff but it's very confusing so can anyone (from OZ?) tell me if it's "safe" to mix Kero and Shellite? And then do traces with it?
I read a Shellite thread but it did not really specify on traces but someone said it was actually fine (said it was "cold" fire
) but others said too volatile for safe use. hm, pinecones, my favourits!
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ain't no way i'm letting kero touch my skin. yuck.
shellite is low flashpoint - ie unacceptably volatile. ouch.
i perform with firewater. look it up at juggleart
ain't no way i'm letting kero touch my skin. yuck.
shellite is low flashpoint - ie unacceptably volatile. ouch.
i perform with firewater. look it up at juggleart
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Thanks Bender... had a look at Firewater but it says it's got a high flash point so no good for traces either... still might get some for spinning.
Thanks Bender... had a look at Firewater but it says it's got a high flash point so no good for traces either... still might get some for spinning.
hm, pinecones, my favourits!
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Seriously I really think you should just get some alcohol or some white gas. Both have a good flashpoint, perfect for traces. Alot of the people that do traces around here mix ultra pure lamp oil and the white gas.
I think a good thing for you to do is maybe get a bit of the fuels you are thinking about using and try mixing them up, put them on some old cotton clothing and give it a trial run to burn on the ground.
Also you can try tracing on another surface, like a piece of metal, as well before trying it on the body.
Seriously I really think you should just get some alcohol or some white gas. Both have a good flashpoint, perfect for traces. Alot of the people that do traces around here mix ultra pure lamp oil and the white gas.
I think a good thing for you to do is maybe get a bit of the fuels you are thinking about using and try mixing them up, put them on some old cotton clothing and give it a trial run to burn on the ground.
Also you can try tracing on another surface, like a piece of metal, as well before trying it on the body.
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Probably because you used the Google search right at the top of the page. The small blue search next to Main Index and Who;s Online came up with quite a few leads.
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Searched "traces" but there were about 20 pages finding "nut traces"... not quite what I expected to find.
Probably because you used the Google search right at the top of the page. The small blue search next to Main Index and Who;s Online came up with quite a few leads.
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People do mix shellite with kero. Disgusting idea for usual spinning compared to odourless ef Firewater, but does work to get more volatility for a specific purpose.
As suggested, try on something else than your body first!
People do mix shellite with kero. Disgusting idea for usual spinning compared to odourless ef Firewater, but does work to get more volatility for a specific purpose.
As suggested, try on something else than your body first!
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"Nut traces" was in someone's describtion of themself as I did hit the HoP search...
White gas, okay. I'll give it a shot
better take the shellite back to the shop...
"Nut traces" was in someone's describtion of themself as I did hit the HoP search...
White gas, okay. I'll give it a shot
better take the shellite back to the shop... hm, pinecones, my favourits!
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cold fire
always a classic. The hydrocarbons in Shellite are more similar to Petrol than Kero (Shellite Flashpoint is -30 Deg C; Petrol is -43 Deg C, Kero is +40 Deg C).
Petrol in fact burns hotter than Kero - both comfortabley well over the 200 Deg C mark somewhere! So this concept of Shellite being cold is somewhat amusing... and dangerous for that matter!
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I read a Shellite thread but it did not really specify on traces but someone said it was actually fine (said it was "cold" fire
cold fire
always a classic. The hydrocarbons in Shellite are more similar to Petrol than Kero (Shellite Flashpoint is -30 Deg C; Petrol is -43 Deg C, Kero is +40 Deg C).Petrol in fact burns hotter than Kero - both comfortabley well over the 200 Deg C mark somewhere! So this concept of Shellite being cold is somewhat amusing... and dangerous for that matter!
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The advice to use white gas was given by an USAian.. due to the availablity of hight flash point odourless fuels here, white gas is rarely (never?) used here in Oz for fire play. IF you do want to use it, it is what we call camping gas.. butane. No safer than Shellite.
Highly volatile, explosive etc.
Also, do not confuse it with White Spirit which is useless for anything spinny.
A small story:
A local festival wanted to have a fire spinning section, and instead of asking local spinners, they contacted some people in the States for advice for fuel. Got told to use white gas, bought loads of methylated spirits!!
When the spinners they had engaged turned up they were most unimpressed. Lucky I had a spare 20l of Isopar G to sell them from our community venue...
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White gas, okay. I'll give it a shot
The advice to use white gas was given by an USAian.. due to the availablity of hight flash point odourless fuels here, white gas is rarely (never?) used here in Oz for fire play. IF you do want to use it, it is what we call camping gas.. butane. No safer than Shellite.
Highly volatile, explosive etc.
Also, do not confuse it with White Spirit which is useless for anything spinny.
A small story:
A local festival wanted to have a fire spinning section, and instead of asking local spinners, they contacted some people in the States for advice for fuel. Got told to use white gas, bought loads of methylated spirits!!
When the spinners they had engaged turned up they were most unimpressed. Lucky I had a spare 20l of Isopar G to sell them from our community venue...
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Thanks newgabe. I bought Colemans Premium Fuel, which is a well known camping fuel and we tried it out yesterday: works fine! On the MSDS it said the flash point is -18C. Also it didn't leave any marks on the tiles (as some other fuels do) or had the smelliness of kero (which of course doesn't really mean anything in terms of safety or health issues but it is a bonus). And of course it was hot...
Thanks newgabe. I bought Colemans Premium Fuel, which is a well known camping fuel and we tried it out yesterday: works fine! On the MSDS it said the flash point is -18C. Also it didn't leave any marks on the tiles (as some other fuels do) or had the smelliness of kero (which of course doesn't really mean anything in terms of safety or health issues but it is a bonus). And of course it was hot...
hm, pinecones, my favourits!
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That's the one! Well done!
Just be aware that it is volatile ie can catch alight from fumes rather than having to be intentionally lit. Mind you I am giving this advice never having used it, so if someone gives you tips based on their experience, listen to them, not me!
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That's the one! Well done!
Just be aware that it is volatile ie can catch alight from fumes rather than having to be intentionally lit. Mind you I am giving this advice never having used it, so if someone gives you tips based on their experience, listen to them, not me!
Cheers
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Dentrassi:
Thanks for the breakdown...I actually did not know what shellite was until now. Now I know what not to get when I can't find my fuel.
newgabe:
You are correct about white gas being very volatile and that it is the fumes that are lit very easily. I have used it a couple times and think it produces a wonderful bright flame, but I personally do not like to use it. I can say it is better than alot of other fuels in my opinion and preference, but it is definitely not at the top of my list.
Please note that even though this USAian did suggest two volatile fuels...that I did note the mixing of the white gas with lamp oil which in turn does lower the volatility a little. But in retrospect the lamp oil mix will burn a little longer than pure white gas, however I cannot say if it matters...and would speculate that if a person is juicing correctly the time difference will not be noticeable. Again if you decide to use the lamp oil mix...test it on the ground first!
Sprocket:
Part of the whole idea behind the white gas not leaving marks on the tile is due to the vapors being on fire and not the actual surface of the fuel like with kerosene.
The other part has to do with the amount of carbon contained in the fuel. For example Isopropyl alcohol which is common bathroom rubbing alcohol will leave brown suit on the sides of a bowl. Denatured alcohol, which is about 90% ethanol, will leave next to nothing in terms of suit due to it having about one third less the amount of carbon than the Isopropyl. This is the main reason I choose Denatured alcohol as my favorite fuel. I burned 6 times with my home-made staff and the kevlar looked brand new, which promotes fairly long wick life when compared to other fuels. Other reasons include, fast light, bright flame at night (but practically invisable during the daylight), inexpensive, clean burn, and almost odorless.
Denatured alcohol may be something else you might want to test out, just for kicks and personal knowledge if anything else. It is an alcohol so the vapors are what burn, and it tends to evaporate quickly which might be condusive to your tracing, but like everything else try it on the ground first. If you want to try it out go to the local hardware store and look in the paint department next to the paint thinner.
Dentrassi:
Thanks for the breakdown...I actually did not know what shellite was until now. Now I know what not to get when I can't find my fuel.
newgabe:
You are correct about white gas being very volatile and that it is the fumes that are lit very easily. I have used it a couple times and think it produces a wonderful bright flame, but I personally do not like to use it. I can say it is better than alot of other fuels in my opinion and preference, but it is definitely not at the top of my list.
Please note that even though this USAian did suggest two volatile fuels...that I did note the mixing of the white gas with lamp oil which in turn does lower the volatility a little. But in retrospect the lamp oil mix will burn a little longer than pure white gas, however I cannot say if it matters...and would speculate that if a person is juicing correctly the time difference will not be noticeable. Again if you decide to use the lamp oil mix...test it on the ground first!
Sprocket:
Part of the whole idea behind the white gas not leaving marks on the tile is due to the vapors being on fire and not the actual surface of the fuel like with kerosene.
The other part has to do with the amount of carbon contained in the fuel. For example Isopropyl alcohol which is common bathroom rubbing alcohol will leave brown suit on the sides of a bowl. Denatured alcohol, which is about 90% ethanol, will leave next to nothing in terms of suit due to it having about one third less the amount of carbon than the Isopropyl. This is the main reason I choose Denatured alcohol as my favorite fuel. I burned 6 times with my home-made staff and the kevlar looked brand new, which promotes fairly long wick life when compared to other fuels. Other reasons include, fast light, bright flame at night (but practically invisable during the daylight), inexpensive, clean burn, and almost odorless.
Denatured alcohol may be something else you might want to test out, just for kicks and personal knowledge if anything else. It is an alcohol so the vapors are what burn, and it tends to evaporate quickly which might be condusive to your tracing, but like everything else try it on the ground first. If you want to try it out go to the local hardware store and look in the paint department next to the paint thinner.
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You know something funny...I just looked up the "white gas on" wikipedia and found that an alternative name for it was shellite
newgabe:
How do you know white gas is mostly butane? I looked at a bunch of MSDS for it and found that it was composed of Paraffin mostly, which includes butane, but how do you know it is specifically butane? I am just curious, though it might be the fact that I am using Wikipedia for just a quick reference.
You know something funny...I just looked up the "white gas on" wikipedia and found that an alternative name for it was shellite
newgabe:
How do you know white gas is mostly butane? I looked at a bunch of MSDS for it and found that it was composed of Paraffin mostly, which includes butane, but how do you know it is specifically butane? I am just curious, though it might be the fact that I am using Wikipedia for just a quick reference.
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Denatured alcohol... hmmm... haven't seen that in the local store yet (actually someone looked at me funny when I asked for pure, non-citronella lamp oil). Thanks anyway.
BTW better stay away from Shellite as it is HIGHLY volatile, best to be used mixed with other fuels but you better be a chemist or a pyrotech.
Denatured alcohol... hmmm... haven't seen that in the local store yet (actually someone looked at me funny when I asked for pure, non-citronella lamp oil). Thanks anyway.
BTW better stay away from Shellite as it is HIGHLY volatile, best to be used mixed with other fuels but you better be a chemist or a pyrotech.
hm, pinecones, my favourits!
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Man that sucks. I can go to my local hardware store and pick out a gallon of denatured alcohol in the paint department. Though it might not be as cheap I have found it behind the counter of the pharmacy department and it is only a small amount.
As far as ultra pure lamp oil I can usually find that in my local Wal-Mart in the candle section. I tell you man...trying to find the right fuels in different countries is seeming to be a challanging thing. So many names for so many different fuels... it would get annoying.
Man that sucks. I can go to my local hardware store and pick out a gallon of denatured alcohol in the paint department. Though it might not be as cheap I have found it behind the counter of the pharmacy department and it is only a small amount.
As far as ultra pure lamp oil I can usually find that in my local Wal-Mart in the candle section. I tell you man...trying to find the right fuels in different countries is seeming to be a challanging thing. So many names for so many different fuels... it would get annoying.
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