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SaBBaS
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Location: Madrid, Spain
Member Since: 4th Jan 2002
Total posts: 215
Posted:i know this may have been discusse before, but im searching and i havent found what im looking for.
basically ive been called to do a fire breathing for a tv show (its gonna be recorded, no live tv to get burnt on wink ), and ive been asked how much i charge. thats the problem, I HAVE NOOO FRIGGIN IDEA!!
any ideas as quick as possible, please?
(theyre waiting for my call, if i dont get any answers im going to say about 120euro, do you think its ok?)
thx very much


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Yakumo
Yakumo

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Location: Oxfordshire
Member Since: 31st May 2006
Total posts: 1237
Posted:Bearing in mind it's for TV, and you cannot get insurance for yourself (to cover your own injuries) on fire breathing, I think your selling yourself short.

Blinded by Hyperlights, please donate generously grin

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Sym
Sym

Geek-enviro-hippy priest
Location: Diss, Norfolk
Member Since: 28th Sep 2004
Total posts: 1858
Posted:I'd say double it at least.

There's too many home fires burning and not enough trees

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PK_
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Member Since: 20th Dec 2001
Total posts: 4991
Posted:i'd say dont bother! .. its not worth your life.

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marco
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Location: uk
Member Since: 27th May 2004
Total posts: 328
Posted:Considering what the're asking for and that all professional requirements for a fire arts show still apply, risk assessments and public liability insurrance etc, fire safety and compliance with any and all local legislation regarding performing arts with fire and I'm assuming this comercial product (show) rather than a charity production, I would be charging in the order of around 400.00 plus any and all expences incurred.



Just to clarify, the production team would getting a set piece, for which they would be expected to get the filming right for, this would cover approximately between 5 and 10 minutes of 'performance'



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PK_
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Member Since: 20th Dec 2001
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Posted:100 billion Dollars (American) would see a secured signature from me.

120 euro.. 400 quid... rolleyes your life, your risk. hug


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In giving love there is an equal grace.
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Sym
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Geek-enviro-hippy priest
Location: Diss, Norfolk
Member Since: 28th Sep 2004
Total posts: 1858
Posted:But for the people who do it anyway, it is fair to ask what price is good. I wouldn't do it for any amount of money, but some people are happy knowing the risks and doing it anyway.



For those people, there is no harm in trying to get the price right and not charging too little so as to de-value the art.


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Pele
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Location: WNY, USA
Member Since: 15th Dec 2000
Total posts: 6193
Posted:How many takes and how many times will you be expected to do it?

The price should be determined on that, not on the thought that it is a taped tv show, but more on how many times you are expected to put your life on the line.


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FireTom
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Member Since: 20th Sep 2003
Total posts: 6650
Posted:make the math:

potential medical bills + cost for cuffin * your remaining life expectancy (without fire breathing) / by the IQ of the person who asks you (insert number below 0) * the number of people watching the show = minimum wage for fire breathers on TV

hug

hope that helps biggrin


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strugz
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Location: Southampton - Possibly...
Member Since: 6th Mar 2002
Total posts: 3964
Posted:ubblol

dude thats one sweet equation biggrin

ubblol

1000 - for 5 mins ubbrollsmile

id also say to the TV dude - firebreathing is crap - check this out:

*does huge staff burnoff*

Bigger - phatter, hotter and ill do it fo half the price wink


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Durbs
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Location: Epsom, Surrey, England
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Posted: Written by: strugz


Bigger - phatter, hotter and ill do it fo half the price wink




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strugz
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Location: Southampton - Possibly...
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Posted:only youd know wink

ubblol


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Mynci
Mynci

Macaque of all trades
Location: wombling free...
Member Since: 27th Apr 2005
Total posts: 8737
Posted:when asked I quote minimum of 500 to show up then charge 50 per breathe after an agreed number for the original price.

A couple of balls short of a full cascade... or maybe a few cards short of a deck... we'll see how this all fans out.

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SaBBaS
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Location: Madrid, Spain
Member Since: 4th Jan 2002
Total posts: 215
Posted:today was the recording, it went all well, im all right and nobody got hurt smile
ok, so i screwed up with the price... im not happy about it, but well, i guess it was their luck rolleyes
at least i made clear that it was the last time im going to do it for that price...
i had to breath two times, two takes... they liked it, so it was ok smile
i dunno if there is a difference between countries, but when i see your prices i have to think about one thing: do you get bookings at those prices? i know there are a lot of dangers involved, but i think i wouldnt get that for a full body burn here (i sometimes work as a stuntman). i know its different, in one you "just" rolleyes have the fire on your back and run around risking just some burns and in the other you risk chemical burns in the lungs, which aren't funny at all... dunno, i guess im in the wrong country for that confused
and now to top off, anybody from spain know anything about prices here? who knows, they could've been ripping me off without me even knowing frown (maybe its what happens when you trust the people who get you the jobs... redface)


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SaBBaS
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Location: Madrid, Spain
Member Since: 4th Jan 2002
Total posts: 215
Posted:oh, and thanks for the answers biggrin

i like this script -> fire breathing



P.S.: dunno if the script works EVERY time wink



Edited for the PS

EDITED_BY: SaBBaS (1170344108)


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GothFrogette
GothFrogette

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Location: Nuneaton
Member Since: 10th Oct 2004
Total posts: 3999
Posted:how much do you guys charge for other performances?
ie poi, staff etc. if there is a link i couldn't find it hug


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Mynci
Mynci

Macaque of all trades
Location: wombling free...
Member Since: 27th Apr 2005
Total posts: 8737
Posted:we charge about 300 day rate (workshop and fire show) depends what people want but rarely less than 100 per person

A couple of balls short of a full cascade... or maybe a few cards short of a deck... we'll see how this all fans out.

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