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NewOrleansTwo
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Member Since: 16th Dec 2006
Total posts: 5
Posted:i was just wondering if any one had a helping hand they can give me with this? eek

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Drudwyn
Drudwyn

Forget puppy power, Scrappy's just gay
Location: Southampton Uni
Member Since: 27th Aug 2005
Total posts: 632
Posted:Replace the threads?

Spin, bounce, be one with the world, because it is yours to enjoy...

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oli
not with cactus
Location: bristol/ southern eastern devo...
Member Since: 24th Jul 2003
Total posts: 2052
Posted:this reminds me of something rev was talking about ages ago. never quite did get to the bottom of what they were, but its something butterfly ttn based ish, possibly tending towards being inverted.... ask rev, although im not sure if hes about here much these days, also im sure i saw a video he made of them up on here somewhere... good luck.

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They push+pull tactics are driving me loco
They shouldn't do that no no no

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KaelGotRice
KaelGotRice

Basu gasu bakuhatsu - because sometimes buses explode
Location: Angel's Landing, USA
Member Since: 21st Jul 2003
Total posts: 1584
Posted:may help if you spell threads right. wink

To do: More Firedrums 08 video?
Wildfire/US East coast fire footage
LA/EDC glow/fire footage
Fresno fire

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fNi
fNi

master of disaster
Location: New York
Member Since: 8th Mar 2004
Total posts: 3354
Posted:if I recall correctly it was a combination of an inswing and an inside...or at least so I've been told

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itchelj
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Member Since: 1st Apr 2006
Total posts: 1
Posted:two, way are U making sh*t up. You know theres no such thing as split threads. biggrin Like oli said, GOOD LUCK ubblol
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NewOrleansTwo
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Member Since: 16th Dec 2006
Total posts: 5
Posted:well what is the move called matter of fact you told me this was the name and why does everone else on the page seam to know what im talking about !!!! buddy !!!

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NYC
NYC

NYC
Location: NYC, NY, USA
Member Since: 26th Aug 2001
Total posts: 9232
Posted:Sounds like you guys got it under control.

Glad we could be of assistance.


Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]

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Richee
HOP librarian
Location: Prague
Member Since: 15th Jan 2002
Total posts: 1841
Posted:Split time thread the needle?

bump,

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Rovo
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(the person actually known as Chris Bailey)
Location: Austin, TX, USA
Member Since: 30th Jul 2003
Total posts: 544
Posted:Rev posted 3 videos a while ago, one showing what he called inswings, the other showing what he calls insides and the third being a combination of the two which he called split threading.

In the videos these moves are done from bf/ttn but you can use parts of them in weaves to create some neat effects.

If I have access to a camera when i get home from Virginia tomorrow I'll try and post a clip because I don't think I could successfully describe them in text.


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Richee
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Location: Prague
Member Since: 15th Jan 2002
Total posts: 1841
Posted:Recomended: Reverse weave



The inswing is the inner part of this move.



Split treds is its BF variation.



[Nx?], where are ya?



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Naganootch
AKA CLERIC
Location: Staten Island , NY. USA
Member Since: 30th Aug 2001
Total posts: 172
Posted:Here you go... reverse split-thread to inversions to fwd split-thread


http://www.gsccleric.com/~clericvids/splitthreadninversions.wmv


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Richee
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Location: Prague
Member Since: 15th Jan 2002
Total posts: 1841
Posted:Just to describe the reverse BF

aka revese split thred:



Base: Buttefly 'inside reel'(wall plane)



Inaswing Buttefly



----

[left side half]

Left Poi: revese (over -> inside) -> outside

Right Poi: outside -> outsid

----

[right side half]

Right Poi: reverse (over -> inside) -> outside

Left Poi: outside -> outside

----



The inswing I see to be,

the over -> inside cross-over

motion.



(What a name Rev!)



The 'reverse' will I place to

cross-over family.



It is called split cause

extra beat you can add

(from 6B TTN cross-over)

tend to be missed.



It is also pre- for BF

inversion that I do not.



Naganootch, Well done!



GS = good S.



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NewOrleansTwo
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Member Since: 16th Dec 2006
Total posts: 5
Posted:thank you good guy that cleric so i see you on H.O.P to huh lol good job

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[Nx?]
[Nx?]

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Europe,Scotland,Both
Member Since: 5th Nov 2001
Total posts: 3749
Posted:i still dont understand a word confused

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This is a post by tom, all spelling is deleberate
-><- Kallisti

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Rovo
Rovo

(the person actually known as Chris Bailey)
Location: Austin, TX, USA
Member Since: 30th Jul 2003
Total posts: 544
Posted:Thanks for beating me to the punch Cleric. wink

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Richee
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Location: Prague
Member Since: 15th Jan 2002
Total posts: 1841
Posted:[Nx?] ok follow:



1] Wall plane. Still Poi, closer to each other.

2] Cross right hand over left, still still.

3] Make 'inside' backward circle, with your right hand.

4] Reverse!



1] Wall plane. Backward Buttefly.

2] Reverse right over left.

3] Reverse Backward Butterfly half!



1] Wall plane. Backward buttefly.

2] Reverse right over left. Back to buttefly.

3] Reverse left over right. Back to buttefly.

4] Revese Backward Buttefly.



1] Wall plane. Backward Buttefly.

2] Reverse right over left.

3] 3 beat Backward TTN.

4] Reverse left over right.

5] 3 beat Backward TTN.

6] Reverse Backward TTN.



that's it!,



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TheWibbler
old hand
Location: New Zealand
Member Since: 11th Apr 2003
Total posts: 920
Posted:*so i'm gonna edit this to clarify*



Split threads is a bad name for this, they are just talkin about adding inside beats *AND INSWINGS* to butterflies.



Take any butterfly



take any beat, normally it's 'Outside plane', ie [body][both arms][poi]



bring it inside your arms (so where i say inside your arms, rev would call it an 'Inswing') ie [lert arm][poi][right arm]



Then you also have the option of bringing the poi between your body and your arms. ie [body][poi][both arms]



mix them all together and you get what everyone is talking about here



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Richee
HOP librarian
Location: Prague
Member Since: 15th Jan 2002
Total posts: 1841
Posted:But, not at all! Two things that make it different

from low wave or BF inside beating:



1) The inside beat comes from cros-over.

2) The cross-over goes to inside.



Usually you can, reel inside or butterfly

(that is first degree cross-over).



It wouldn't be called even inside TTN.

Because it does one TTN 'half' inside,

one TTN 'half' outside.



It can be called, Reverse TTN. Name

is GS original I think.



lightning,



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TheWibbler
old hand
Location: New Zealand
Member Since: 11th Apr 2003
Total posts: 920
Posted:oh yeah,



Reverse Butterfly is also very misleading cos that's what a lot of people call spinning backwards, or outwards.



And that 'Reverse weave' thread is an old name for what i think became known as anti-spin.



And that video http://www.gsccleric.com/~clericvids/splitthreadninversions.wmv
isn't antispin, it's just mixing outside, inswing and inside:



Edit to clarify this a bit more:



the first part of the vid, spinning outwards butterfly, 4 beats:



1 = do the outside beat

2 = then inside

3 = then inswing

4 = then outside again



changes to some 3bt inverted weaves, (barrel rolls the inversion a couple times) exits on the inside before entering the second inversion.



then starts to do the forwards version of the above 4bt butterfly



1 = do the outside beat

2 = then inswing

3 = then inside

4 = then outside again



SO anyway, by 'split threading' rev means mixing up outside, inswing, inside and inverted beats.



But i still think the name is poo cos it implies split time thread the needle



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Richee
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Location: Prague
Member Since: 15th Jan 2002
Total posts: 1841
Posted:I'd like to clasify the cross-over inside-out,

the entrance is new. Reminds notcole5,

inswing is good name.



sleepy,



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