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Login/Join to ParticipatePosted:Well, I was reading this because I couldn't sleep and I got to thinking. For example, given a choice between random white wines I know nothing about, I'll tend to take a moscato first and then a pinot grigio. But a lot of people I know almost always like the chardonnays best.
It depends on your individual tastes, and if you're drinking with dinner it depends on what you're eating as well, but people are hearalding these numbers (that is, the ratings assigned to these wines by various sources) as if they're some kind of bible (in some cases without even considering the source!)
I'm more apt to read the tasting notes than anything else, really!
So what do you think? Is the 100 point rating system a useful thing to include with wine, or is it pretending a percision which is both a)silly and b) keeping people from discovering a lot of things they would like. Or you can have your own answer, of course!
It depends on your individual tastes, and if you're drinking with dinner it depends on what you're eating as well, but people are hearalding these numbers (that is, the ratings assigned to these wines by various sources) as if they're some kind of bible (in some cases without even considering the source!)
I'm more apt to read the tasting notes than anything else, really!
So what do you think? Is the 100 point rating system a useful thing to include with wine, or is it pretending a percision which is both a)silly and b) keeping people from discovering a lot of things they would like. Or you can have your own answer, of course!
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Posted:It's interesting. There are like twenty people in the world who can grade cotton. You hand one a sample and he'll feel it and say, "Well obviously it's grade such-and-such" and then the next one will agree with him a startling fraction of the time.
Are wine graders as consistent? That's what I would wonder.
Are wine graders as consistent? That's what I would wonder.
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Posted: Written by: Kyrian
So what do you think? Is the 100 point rating system a useful thing to include with wine, or is it pretending a percision which is both a)silly and b) keeping people from discovering a lot of things they would like. Or you can have your own answer, of course!
One of the first things I thought of when I read this post was that if anyone could give this system the stamp of approval, it would probably be the French.
I wasn't surprised to discover that Robert Parker, who devised this system, is not only American, but also apparently tends to be unpopular with the French because of the power he seemingly wields over their wine industry with his opinion. I think they'd be more inclined to trust Franois Mauss: not just because he happens to be French
but because he heads a panel of tasters from across Europe.
I think I'd also tend to trust the opinion of a group than an individual, especially if they did "blind" tasting.
This amused me during my searching: Had enough of the 100 rating scale?
So what do you think? Is the 100 point rating system a useful thing to include with wine, or is it pretending a percision which is both a)silly and b) keeping people from discovering a lot of things they would like. Or you can have your own answer, of course!
One of the first things I thought of when I read this post was that if anyone could give this system the stamp of approval, it would probably be the French.
I wasn't surprised to discover that Robert Parker, who devised this system, is not only American, but also apparently tends to be unpopular with the French because of the power he seemingly wields over their wine industry with his opinion. I think they'd be more inclined to trust Franois Mauss: not just because he happens to be French
but because he heads a panel of tasters from across Europe. I think I'd also tend to trust the opinion of a group than an individual, especially if they did "blind" tasting.
This amused me during my searching: Had enough of the 100 rating scale?
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Posted:Oh well I would say, who am I to doubt these people? They are experts on the matter (and what a matter it is!), so I would happily put my trust into them. I like clear structure and regulation, I think if there was no grading to wine it would be rather...messy? (insert better word here)
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Posted:Hi Kyrian, I think I would go for a Riesling.
Id suggest doing a wine appreciation course, as rating systems are ultimately flawed because they come down to peoples taste and preferences.
Id suggest doing a wine appreciation course, as rating systems are ultimately flawed because they come down to peoples taste and preferences.
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Posted:Whilst I agree that it would be a rating system for the quality of certain things so that the customer isn't buying reconstituted cat-pee or antifreeze, the rating system seems to be nothing more than a marketing tool so that certain people can justify charging God-knows how much more extortionate prices for their wine. (is Dom Perignon REALLY that much tastier or are people just buying the name brand?)
Plus it keeps the critics in business! It's a symbiotic relationship. Reviews are just there for marketing purposes... Public service announcements are useful (aforementioned antifreezeand cat-pee) but anything else is just pure self-indulgence...
Plus it keeps the critics in business! It's a symbiotic relationship. Reviews are just there for marketing purposes... Public service announcements are useful (aforementioned antifreezeand cat-pee) but anything else is just pure self-indulgence...
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Posted: Written by: Doc Lightning
It's interesting. There are like twenty people in the world who can grade cotton. You hand one a sample and he'll feel it and say, "Well obviously it's grade such-and-such" and then the next one will agree with him a startling fraction of the time.
Are wine graders as consistent? That's what I would wonder.
Yes. From what I understand about wine graders, yes.
And more importantly, if you can't taste the difference, then it obviously doesn't matter to you.
I think rating systems are a fantastic way to get a ball park figure. Obviously individual tastes will vary. That doesn't make the rating system flawed.
Personally, I treat my Zagat guide (restaurant guide) like a bible. I certainly disagree with some of the ratings but it doesn't make it any less useful.
It's interesting. There are like twenty people in the world who can grade cotton. You hand one a sample and he'll feel it and say, "Well obviously it's grade such-and-such" and then the next one will agree with him a startling fraction of the time.
Are wine graders as consistent? That's what I would wonder.
Yes. From what I understand about wine graders, yes.
And more importantly, if you can't taste the difference, then it obviously doesn't matter to you.
I think rating systems are a fantastic way to get a ball park figure. Obviously individual tastes will vary. That doesn't make the rating system flawed.
Personally, I treat my Zagat guide (restaurant guide) like a bible. I certainly disagree with some of the ratings but it doesn't make it any less useful.
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
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Posted: Written by: Neon_Shaolin
(is Dom Perignon REALLY that much tastier or are people just buying the name brand?)
Having been around a few camels in my life, I can say in my expert opinion that most champaigne (or sparkling white) tastes something like how camel piss smells.
But I actually like Dom.
(is Dom Perignon REALLY that much tastier or are people just buying the name brand?)
Having been around a few camels in my life, I can say in my expert opinion that most champaigne (or sparkling white) tastes something like how camel piss smells.
But I actually like Dom.
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Posted: Written by: NYC
I certainly disagree with some of the ratings but it doesn't make it any less useful.
Indeed, especially if you consistantly disagree.
I used to read the film reviews in the local paper knowing that if the film critic hated a film then I'd love it, and vice versa.
I certainly disagree with some of the ratings but it doesn't make it any less useful.
Indeed, especially if you consistantly disagree.
I used to read the film reviews in the local paper knowing that if the film critic hated a film then I'd love it, and vice versa.
But there's no sense crying over every mistake. You just keep on trying till you run out of cake.
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