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Posted: Definitive List:::: http://lab.firestaff.net



L.A.B. Reports.



A scientific exploration of the possible patterns created by the gestural and physical manipulation and activation of dual stiff linear props, with emphasis (added) in this report as to the connectional patterns.



Experiment 01 - HQ 100mb



Experiment 01 - MQ 50mb





Addendum 1a



A brief exploration of the clash between desired movement and it's actualisation and bridging the gap through the use of non-reflective mental states.



Addendum-Sequence 1-MPEG-4 800Kbps.mp4 ~20mb





L.A.B. 02 - Complete and Utter...



The reinstatment of post-modern irony into a normal everyday actualisation of curiosity in the realm of exploratory objectorial manipulative beliefs.



lab 02 - 90mb.



lab 02 - medium - 45mb.



L.A.B. 03 - IN LEEDS



Me n'Strugz went to leeds and met Chronos, and had a whale of a good hardcore contact time.

One of the most enjoyable videos I've made. Hope you enjoy! I did...



LAB 03: IN LEEDS (large) ~100mb



LAB 03: IN LEEDS (small) ~25mb





L.A.B. APPENDIX 3A - MC-PO-SEPH



me and mostly dave spinning in our lunchtimes. Dave has a unique style amougst unque styles, which he doesn't show much in this video, instead just concentrates on new and hardcore doubles.



MC-PO-SEPH - 43mb



L.A.B. 04 - UBER UNWRAPPED



Uber Europe! This is a video of a super diverse range of staff, from hard hard throws, dual fishtails, doubles contact, fei-cha and uber single staff contact and spinning. As well as a little bit of sillyness and negative space. I'll write a little more later... when i have screenshots... biggrin



L.A.B. 04 - UBER UNWRAPPED (large) ~100mb



L.A.B. 04 - UBER UNWRAPPED (small) ~40mb





L.A.B. 05 - Church of Staff



Leeds too! me, chronos, t&b and sandy, in leeds, lots and lots of contact and some doubles.



L.A.B. 05 - Teaser (small) ~16mb



L.A.B. 05 - Church of Staff (large) ~220mb





L.A.B. 05.1 .2 .v and . [Meg Minus Hair]



All Doubles.

Section 1: Anti-spin

Section 2: Spin

Section 3: Contact

Section 4: Freestyle



LAB 05.1 126mb



LAB 05.1 small - 36mb





LAB 06. WoW



Me n'Simian. Happily Mostly Simian doing stuff that I still don't quite understand after having watched it like ten times during editing. g'damn.



Enjoy:



LAB 06 - Wow ~40mb.





THE LAB



this is what I call geeky. A staff video without any people or actual footage whatsoever. Just animated staffs. One size fits all.



THE LAB ~47mb



google:



http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=1183563926305758390





L.A.B. 06.%



Poi in the Park, 2006 Birthday party. What it was like for me.



Lots of poi in this one. Like what?



http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-6205197087321942253



download link to follow. (thou google lets you download.)





Recently I've been mostly watching anime....



http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-4061169031942253106



dl: http://videos.tepookatoys.com/media/lab/cowboyfishbop.wmv





L.A.B. 00 - ROUTINE



It's retarded meg occassionally in the first one, and mostly stagefright-meg in the second.



http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=2122116747381067643



dl: http://videos.tepookatoys.com/media/lab/lab00.wmv





L.A.B. 07 - Meg talks to herself.



doubles, singles and some other props....



http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-3196487358216134432



dl: http://videos.tepookatoys.com/media/lab/lab07.wmv





LAB 08, part 1, Aidan @ Winter with MCP



dl: aidan / ado-p

gootube: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Uwub_Mxzu7g



yup, a whole video dedicated to the irish iron fist!



I thought afterwards that maybe the song is a little cheeky, but the boy is a good dancer, and I wouldn't make an entire video of him, if I didn't like his style.

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"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

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Pyrolific
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Posted:oh well I found that last one quite disappointing.



c'mon Meg - at least put something worth d/l'ing in there...



Josh

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Posted:But you can lite the old car tire's on fire too!

'There are two mantras in life, yum and yuk. I choose yum.'

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Gayle......!
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Posted:You lot are bloody mental! Enjoyed. Lots. biggrin

Gayle.....!

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Posted:Looked like an advert for band-aid. Why not just run with the scissors? wink

But I do like the idea of getting served with gymnastic ribbons!


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Posted:Gotta say, this is the singularly best set of videos I've ever made. For the sheer quality of the spinning in them. I'm actually a little bit proud of these ones. Thanks to everyone who's in them!



L.A.B. 03 - IN LEEDS



Me n'Strugz went to leeds and met Chronos, and had a whale of a good hardcore contact time.

One of the most enjoyable videos I've made. Hope you enjoy! I did...



LAB 03: IN LEEDS (large) ~100mb



LAB 03: IN LEEDS (small) ~25mb





L.A.B. APPENDIX 3A - MC-PO-SEPH



me and mostly dave spinning in our lunchtimes. Dave has a unique style amougst unque styles, which he doesn't show much in this video, instead just concentrates on new and hardcore doubles.



MC-PO-SEPH - 43mb



L.A.B. 04 - UBER UNWRAPPED



Uber Europe! This is a video of a super diverse range of staff, from hard hard throws, dual fishtails, doubles contact, fei-cha and uber single staff contact and spinning. As well as a little bit of sillyness and negative space. I'll write a little more later... when i have screenshots... biggrin (and none of me in it! RESULT!)



L.A.B. 04 - UBER UNWRAPPED (large) ~100mb



L.A.B. 04 - UBER UNWRAPPED (small) ~40mb


"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

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Posted:IN LEEDS

chronos:


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"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

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Posted:MC-PO-SEPH


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"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

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Posted:UBER UNWRAPPED

etheogen: Does nothing badly. Taught me a wee bit o fei-cha and was generally cool, expecially seeing another girl doing contact exceedingly well. The bit at the end in the video, I shouted at her: "Pretend you're a baton twirler!" and that's what she came up with.... ubbrollsmile


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olive: Master of many sticks. Absolute cross MASTER.


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richee: I finally met you! WOOO! This is Richee everyone! Incredibly smooth spinning style.


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Marcus: ATOMIC CONTACT! eek eek eek eek Need I say more?


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Meast: What's there to say? Spinning for a year and half, I'm going to try using his learning style, and see what happens. biggrin Might have to learn a side tuck salto too....


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Sebastien (Bastl): Amazing body throws. And thank god somebody else is doing stupid things with dual fishtails.... You made me practise them again.... hug


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Rob: YAY! GOOD JOB! gotta love the cheeky smile and surreptitious nipple squeezing.


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"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

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Posted:MCP dropping bombs! Reprezenting with a triple phatt selection of the hottest staff porn this side of amsterdam! biggrin

You're a legend!

*Hoists Meg onto shoulders, runs around demanding passers by kneel to the glory*


*no moves there are no moves there are no moves there are no moves there are no moves there are no*

"Oooh, what a shiny new move!"

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Posted:biggrin is all I have to say to this Meg...

hug


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Posted:Ya Meg so great you filmed Etheogen.. she's a lovely lovely spinner...and you mentioned baton twirlers..saw some vids recently of young baton twirling troupes and it occurred to me that most of what 'us lot' do with staffs is about as graceful/skilly as rolling in the mud compared to what those girls have been up to for years. Sigh.



This is going to be a very unpopular comment, but I am generally underwhelmed with the style of contact I have seen in Europe. (as compared to the amazing poi/juggling)

Lotsa Tricks but so often stiff, static, and very just upper body. Some very smooth single staff play to be sure (with the occasional step!!) Loved the 'from above' sections in LAB3...



But when I get home I am going to light a match under a few bums and try get some vids made of people whose 'contact staff' style is a meeting of multiple staff skills (eg Kyle's triple magic) and contact dance...sort of like the lovely Meast is heading for, but with more than one person...and flow...and whole bodies...



Meanwhile you have put together some great footage of the various styles around at the moment so well done...

ubblol staff porn indeed. Keeps me up all night anyway... rolleyes


.....Can't juggle balls but I sure as hell can juggle details....

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Posted:Do it, do it. I've wanted to see Kyle doing triples for f***ing ages.

biggrin biggrin biggrin

As for the comments. Nah, that fair enough as far as I'm concerned. It's pretty much that assesment that's spurring me on...


*no moves there are no moves there are no moves there are no moves there are no moves there are no*

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Posted:Screw baton twirlers. The only one I've heard of who got into fire spinning never really got into it, cos they didn't enjoy spinning anymore. I guess years of training will do that to you. I don't want to be a baton twirler. All the rules, ugly movements and routines completely devoid of artistic integrity. Yes there is some amazing gymanstics and throws and contact and such like, but if removed your love of spinning, what's the point?

Plus: I like to do whatever I like with a staff. For me it's object manipulation, not just spinning. Screw rules.

Otherwise: yeah, a hella lot of upper body spinning going on. I would also second any video of kyle one two or three sticks. FILM KYLE! FILM HIM!!!!!!! (Get Ben-ja-men to pose in the background.) biggrin

I still want to find out what staff is before I start mixing it with other styles. I think staff wants to have it's own style, and I'm going to find that. (well apart from the odd bit of japanese dance... redface )


hug to gabe... send me a DVD! musak! biggrin ubbrollsmile


"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

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Posted: Written by: mcp

Screw baton twirlers.



Mmm... Some of those Japanese lads are pretty cute. ubblol

Definately don't want to go down the baton twirler route, but I do feel that I'm amassing a body of technique that wants to go somewhere...

Does anyone else feel that staff is approaching one of those critical mass situations of technique? Over the next year I'm fully expecting an explosion as people take it in all sorts of unexpected directions. I'm trying to push my own limits and I can see others doing the same.

Can't wait to see what happens. biggrin


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Posted:chrono i totaly agree. I have been spinning for a few years now and im getting borred with doing 'just moves'.

I've been trying to push the breakdance side for the last couple of months cos i think that is the next step forward but i think there will also be a huge explosion from capowera (spelling?)and wu su style martial arts.

Basically i think the next level of staff has to be manipulating your body as much as the staff to amalgamate something very cool.

This is something that needs to be worked on when we come to Leeds. ooooh the anticipation.


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Posted:*much drooling*

Not much to say about the rest... Just that: a prop is a just a prop and the manipulator is what's amazing to watch


You see things; and you say, 'Why?' But I dream things that never were; and I say, "Why not?" George Bernard Shaw

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Posted: Written by: newgabe


saw some vids recently of young baton twirling troupes and it occurred to me that most of what 'us lot' do with staffs is about as graceful/skilly as rolling in the mud compared to what those girls have been up to for years. Sigh.

This is going to be a very unpopular comment, but I am generally underwhelmed with the style of contact I have seen in Europe. (as compared to the amazing poi/juggling)
Lotsa Tricks but so often stiff, static, and very just upper body. Some very smooth single staff play to be sure (with the occasional step!!) Loved the 'from above' sections in LAB3...




interesting to heard this, I've often watch batonist and thought there movement although clean was abit dead and not particularly insparing. I reckon it all depends on the spinner and how long they been at it. Contact staff is in it's infinncy in europe and you've got the lean the move before you can dance with the move.

Anyhow definately film Kyle i've got about 10sec of footage of his triple staff contact from when I meet him at the EJC in Paris which is awsome but I need more biggrin

MCP: wicked vids watched all three yesterday in quick sucession and didn't even get bored (something which is unfortunatly rare these days for single vids and pretty much unheard of for three longish ones)


Maybe I should change this too something abit nicer, humm no I still think your all Ccensoredt

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Posted:screw all of that stuff. I need to clean up my spinning. I'm going to back to standing still and spinning for a while. Feet planted like roots into the ground style. That and working on exact footwork while turning, and spotting. While knowing what the hell my other arm is doing and keeping my posture straighter than jane eyre.



for sandy: it's capoeira and wushu



Thanks T&B, I know that boredom feeling....



Having to dance and move around just means you're spinning isn't interesting enough. Screw dance. wink

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"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

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Posted:I need to find a good area to practice staff which isn't

* My bedroom/living surrounded by the ever-present fear of breakages (might need advice on how to make those padded-staffs of yours Meg!

* My back yard - so small and again surrounded by breakable windows and furniture.

* A local park round the corner populated by smackheads...

*wiggle* biggrin


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Posted:I get obsessed with finding the absolute minimum amount of movement required for a move, it's not quite the opposite of dance but it is a search for my own "pure" staff style.

But if I want to learn a cartwheel matrix, or even just to dance while staffing I have to practice that. It doesn't just happen by itself.

Watching the Leeds video has helped me loads. What strikes me is that if my practice consists of just standing there and repeating the same move over and over, that's what comes out when I spin. So if I want more variety and movement I need to deliberately practice long combinations and dancing.

It's not that I'm going to stop drilling "static" moves, it works for one thing. But I am trying to be more aware of my practice so that I can get more out of it.

The answers going to be different for everyone, depends where you want to take it...

meditate


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Posted:@Dave- I used to do most of my practice in a space six foot square. It helps loads with refining your control if you can't move your feet.



In general though I've found abandoned buildings endlessly usefull. If you look round you can usually find a large indoor space and secure it with your own locks to keep out "undesirables". Tadaah! your very own practice space.



Can require a bit of research if you want a long term space, how long it's been abandoned, security, that sort of thing. I've got my eye on an old sports hall at the mo. Sprung floors!



bounce2


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Posted:Nice vid...

Its true that people dont dance enough... Its because there not dancers... confused

etheogen ubblove your style... and all the rest in that vid... its sick... sick!!!

you should all be ashamed wink

hug

thanks meg

again


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mcp
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Posted:dance with your prop or make your prop dance?

"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

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Posted:Aidan - your coming to leeds right wink biggrin biggrin

Gabe - please please please get kyle to do a video, i mean ive heard good things, but hey where is the proof until i see something im going to say its all just talk wink ubblol

Meg - tongue

Uber europe video, sexy as **** biggrin that fenfire lot kick some staffing ass dont they ubbrollsmile

Dancing or poncing about like a girl?

So i guess the general jist of this is to use legs more....... which is good as i pulled of a lynx last night - for the first time ever (probably the last too as it was fluke! ubblol).........

Static spinning has always helped develop smooth control, flailing around like a monkey on acid makes for interesting spinning really varied, but messy also (imo)

But hey again, its all just style, one way or the other smile

cool


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Posted: Written by: Chrono333


I get obsessed with finding the absolute minimum amount of movement required for a move



i was obsessed with that for a long time with poi smile

it may not make you a 'dancer' but it gives you a super clean style and to me (and tonnes of others), clean technique is infinitely more beautiful than dancing with okay technique.

bending your knees? moving your feet?

totally overrated biggrin wink


cole. x


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i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
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Posted:Dancing a la prancing is not what I am talking about (my bad for mentioned anything to do with polyster tiny stick highspeed batons in a staff thread ... twas just a wandering thought.. the next one was 'what happens to all those girls later'!!)



The mix that has so intrigued me brings together the skill and discipline of:

contact movement technique ie following/directing/passing movement impulse between people (not posey 'shape' based dance) with:



the added challenge of the weight of the staff (or hoop or teacup or whatever other prop gets involved)



Multiply by multiples...



I guess you have to see it to imagine it...



Meanwhile 'feet planted in ground' drilling, preplanned routines, solo impro etcetc, all have their wonderful place in the unfolding fractal of where everyone's taking all this stuff...



Me, I like to watch...



oh yeah and I am glad to hear you mention attention to posture Meg cos sometimes I get affeared for the postural strains I see. Wouldn't like to see peeps in pain in a few years...


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Posted:well good posture for me is all about making my belly look smaller than it actually is... Oh the joy!

"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

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Posted: Written by: newgabe





Multiply by multiples...



I guess you have to see it to imagine it...









video kyle video kyle video kyle video kyle video kyle video kyle etc...........



Gabe i love you anyway, you rock lots, but if you can do the above........ well, youd more than rock and id more than love you!! biggrin ............ so i guess that would kind of make you a euphoric mountain to me or something........ubblol



anyways......... hug


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Posted: Written by: mcp


well good posture for me is all about making my belly look smaller than it actually is... Oh the joy!



me too! biggrin

chin up, shoulders back, chest out, BELLY IN, hips forward and remember to breathe... wink


so, the dancetech debate rises again... ubblove

i reckon "i appreciate and aspire to total control of body dynamics, combined with clean object manipulation techniques" covers most viewpoints (even when standing still you should look good doing it), so i'm sticking to that from now on.


cole. x


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i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
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Posted:*comes out from cold shower* ......what?



Meg loving the music choices - most of them seem to be from films biggrin



LOVE the use of Hans Zimmer's theme from 'True Romance' (can't stop whistling it now!)



Love the overhead shots, especially the spirals the flames make when you throw them...


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