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Kyrian
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Location: York, England
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Posted:For those of you who havn't heard, check out your favourite news feed. The Bush Admin has issued a supoena (months ago now) for google's records, a list of some or all of the sites indexed and either a week or a month or some similar amount of time... all the searches entered.

Google is fighting it of course, thank god, but still its worrying... and...

The (US) news media claims google's stock is falling "because its standing up for human rights" more or less... personally I would think its fallig because people are afraid it WILL start being used for surveillence.

Anyway, I'm sure you all have thoughts/worries/opinions....


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Posted:*has thoughts about using to google to search for 'How to make WMD's in Iraq' just for fun...*

ubblol


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Domino
UnNatural Scientist - Currently working on a Breville-legged monkey
Location: Bath Uni or Shrewsbury, UK
Member Since: 26th May 2004
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Posted:*is a tad unnerved*

Give me a lever long enough and a place to stand and I can beat the world into submission.

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Sporky
Sporky

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Location: Glasgow
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Total posts: 663
Posted:Tried it. I thought it moght be one of the "I'm Feeling Lucky" jokes but it just sent me to the CNN site.

*looks dissappointed*


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pricklyleaf
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Location: Manchester
Member Since: 7th Mar 2005
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Posted:I heard this on the radio. The US government want google to provide information on the most popular searches. I'm glad that google is standing up to this. I like google. biggrin

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Doc Lightning
Doc Lightning

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Location: San Francisco, CA, USA
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Posted:The reason for this is that someone in the Bush administration is trying to resurrect this online anti-porn law that would be terribly restrictive.

It's pathetic, really.


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Rouge Dragon
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Posted:It kind of reminds me of the restrictions they have in China. How all searches coming from a Chinese ISP are monitored for things like "freedom".

i would have changed ***** to phallus, and claire to petey Petey

Rougie: but that's what I'm doing here
Arnwyn: what letting me adjust myself in your room?..don't you dare quote that on HoP...

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NOn
activist for HoPper liberation.
Location: ffidrac
Member Since: 23rd Jun 2004
Total posts: 1643
Posted:ooh how funny, iwas watching a programme about google the other day and it mentioned the huge amount of information that they have... stored... i kind of wonder why they even need it, but it's good that they're not giving it away...

Aurinko freedom agreement reached 10th Sept 2006

if it makes no sense that's because it's NOn-sense.

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Domino
UnNatural Scientist - Currently working on a Breville-legged monkey
Location: Bath Uni or Shrewsbury, UK
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Total posts: 757
Posted:Hoorah for porn! Er... I mean Freedom!

Give me a lever long enough and a place to stand and I can beat the world into submission.

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KaelGotRice
KaelGotRice

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Location: Angel's Landing, USA
Member Since: 21st Jul 2003
Total posts: 1584
Posted:Actually, Google is one of the few fighting off the government. Yahoo and MSN have already given into demands.

Another reason to use google :]


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MiG
MiG

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Location: Bogged at CG
Member Since: 16th Apr 2004
Total posts: 3415
Posted:*wonders why there hasn't been any 'attempts' on the great white buttmunch*

can't say more than that, i might get visited by men in black suits...

Oh, no... they're here...

*vanishes*


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Mr Majestik
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Posted:MiG, youre no spook, and if you were we wouldnt know it anyway!

*searchs for WMD porn* wink that'll confuse them..........


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MiG
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Posted:no im not. but they might come to visit me and send me off to a black hole somewhere...

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"master"
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Rouge Dragon
Rouge Dragon

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Posted:the scary thing is that someone has probably made a site about that! I mean there IS lego porn and furniture porn! ubblol

sorry, offtopic


i would have changed ***** to phallus, and claire to petey Petey

Rougie: but that's what I'm doing here
Arnwyn: what letting me adjust myself in your room?..don't you dare quote that on HoP...

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Mr Majestik
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Posted:and you know this............how?

naughty naughty Rouge

and MiG, dont talk about assie like that :P wink


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DoktorSkell
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Total posts: 475
Posted:The goal of Google.

To organise, catologue and make available to the public all the information in the world.

And to destroy all that cant be organised, catologued and publicised.

Look, dont worry about google. They are going to be the next microsoft. Pretty soon they will be unstoppable.

Wait... did i say dont worry? i mean WORRY WORRY WORRY


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jeff(fake)
jeff(fake)

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Location: Edinburgh
Member Since: 15th Apr 2005
Total posts: 1189
Posted:Care to justify your attack on Google's motives?

I find it hard to imagine them destroying much of anything... umm


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Lurch
Lurch

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Location: Oregon
Member Since: 1st Nov 2003
Total posts: 929
Posted:I for one welcome our Google overlords..

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Kyrian
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Location: York, England
Member Since: 15th Mar 2002
Total posts: 4308
Posted:ubblol... google overlords.

Indeed, I think cataloguing and making available information to everyone is awesome. Its still a bit american-centric (you have no idea how hard I had to work to find lays mediterranea crisps images today....) but its a lofty goal.

And what can't be catalogued at all, if only as misc? tongue

seriously, whats your beef with them? They have issues on a personal level of course, but the coperation is still doing some pretty decent things. what are they destroying?


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Mr Majestik
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Posted:destroying peoples need to remember....................... ubbloco

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linden rathen
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Posted:it uses all that information to make better searches tongue

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Mr Majestik
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Posted:but what if old people dont remember anything, cause they could just store it in their short term memory, and then google it the next time they need it? only when they get old they might forget how to google, and then they will know nothing!!!!!!!!

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jeff(fake)
jeff(fake)

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Posted:Written by: Mr Majestik

but what if old people dont remember anything, cause they could just store it in their short term memory, and then google it the next time they need it? only when they get old they might forget how to google, and then they will know nothing!!!!!!!!


Wow, you're pretty paranoid.


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Total posts: 1626
Posted:Written by: Mr Majestik

*searchs for WMD porn* wink that'll confuse them..........


ubblol like it


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squarexbear
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Location: Hastings, UK
Member Since: 17th Apr 2005
Total posts: 585
Posted:ok, type in 'failure' and then hit 'i'm feeling lucky'

now ask yourself again why the bush administration is out to get google ubblol ubblol ubblol ubblol


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Lurch
Lurch

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Location: Oregon
Member Since: 1st Nov 2003
Total posts: 929
Posted:Oh google bombing has been around for awhile :P

http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2005/09/googlebombing-failure.html
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On that note though....


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Mr Majestik
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Posted:lol, i felt lucky when that came up, reminds me that not al corps are with him........

french military defeats biggrin nice..


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Patriarch917
Patriarch917

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Location: Nashville, Tennessee
Member Since: 2nd Oct 2005
Total posts: 607
Posted:This story is interesting, especially if you want to speculate as to google's motives.

If they are trying to portray themselves as "bad boy" countercultural rebels that want to help the little man against government control, they pretty much screwed themself by aligning themselves with Chinese communist censorship.


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Mr Majestik
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Posted:"Google officials characterized the censorship concessions in China as an excruciating decision for a company that adopted "don't be evil" as a motto. But management believes it's a worthwhile sacrifice."

a worthwhile sacrafice indeed, people for profits............


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KaelGotRice
KaelGotRice

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Location: Angel's Landing, USA
Member Since: 21st Jul 2003
Total posts: 1584
Posted:Actually the growth of the number of internet webpages in asia will soon far outstrip the english webpages. I forget where I read the exact figures and what they were.

So in a business sense, google is pretty smart, considering how China will soon own us all anyways...


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Mr Majestik
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Posted:"china wril gro rarger"

if you play c&c generals... wink


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