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Malcolm
SAPPHIRE Member since Nov 2003

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Posted:I have just found out from ICoN that someone called "Victor" from this site has previously told a new spinner to purchase a Fluffy practice poi from this site and set it on fire eek
"Victor" apparently said that they wont burn long so they're great for beginners
The newby used white gas and was told that after one or two burns she would have to break off the melted outside and then continue to burn the core.

Victor this is not a joke thing to do!

I am very angry that someone could be representing themselves as a HOP employee and getting new spinners to do something very dangerous.

If anyone knows anything about this please contact me at info@homeofpoi.com or PM me.


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gita
SILVER Member since Oct 2003

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Posted:eek holy crap! i didn't think there were people that stupid in the world! (meaning victor) i hope the newbie didn't take his dangerous advice!!! eek

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animatEd
BRONZE Member since Aug 2004

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Posted:Who was the new user that was told to do this? Maybe They could help you out more? Any idea of a Country of origin?



I'll keep my ears open, though.



edit: Just realised that if you know this has happened, you've probably already spoken to 'the new user'. All in all, a useless post. Sorry.

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Malcolm
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Posted:Don't know who the new user was. ICon is trying to get more information from her.

Trying to find out if anyone else has been contacted by a "Victor" telling them to do the same thing? or a "Victor" representing themselves as a HOP employee.


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MikeIcon
GOLD Member since Mar 2003

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Posted:The customer in question doesnt post here. She simply bought a set of poi from the site after getting some advice from "Victor." She did indeed burn the fluffy poi but luckily she wasnt injured in the process. She did note some rather dazzling flame colors as they began to ignite however. eek



I will post any additional info I get here.


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We'll blaze a new trail,
and torch the rough patches.

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Bird
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Posted:Man, I can't believe someone would give out advice like that, and worse still, claim they were part of your organisation!

I hope you sort this out, and I'm glad the newbie affected wasn't hurt!

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UCOF
SILVER Member since Apr 2002

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Posted:rolleyes

There are some silly people about....
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Fine_Rabid_Dog


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Posted:Is this him?

http://www.homeofpoi.com/ubbthreads/show...vc=1#Post544891
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Just a suggestion. Not an accusation. His name is victor... shrug


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Igirisujin
SILVER Member since Jul 2005

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Posted:What are fluffy poi made out of anyway? Seems kinda silly to me anyone would believe this type of poi is supposidly the type you set on fire in the first place to be honest.

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nearly_all_gone
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Posted:People are surprisingly naive about firetoys in general, though. Like the people who made fire swords out of cloth and lit them with petrol.

People really have no idea. I can imagine a set of fluffly poi looks like the sort of thing which would take on fuel, if you don't know much about poi. Despite the fact it's so glaringly dumb to those of us who know better.


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v_i_c


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Posted:It's NOT me for sure!

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Sakura_Moon


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Posted:Why would someone do that?!
How immature can yo get?


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Fine_Rabid_Dog


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Posted:d'ya think iy was immature?

What if it was just stupidity? What if Victor thought this was true; that he did it himself?


The existance of flamethrowers says that someone, somewhere, at sometime said "I need to set that thing on fire, but it's too far away."

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pricklyleaf
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Posted:It sounds more Naiive than malitious to me too. From the fact they were saying that after the first few burns you need to break the melted outside sounds like the person in question had done it themselves. Seems a seriously stupid mistake to make, seen as the shop has a whole section dedicated to fire poi, that surely, if you were going to buy fire poi, you would look at.

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PyroWill
GOLD Member since Aug 2004

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Posted:so he was definately posing as an empolyee? sorry just from your initial post you said someone from this site so i assumed you meant a member of the community

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Igirisujin
SILVER Member since Jul 2005

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Posted:I think maybie this calls for a warning to be put on the shop , Fire poi REQUIRE a speacial type of poi, or something simalar.

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PyroWill
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Posted:Its a shame that shouldnt have to happen, the word FIRE poi should give it away, and this is the first time ive heard of this being said so it would be a shame to put a warning on non fire toys that they shouldnt be used for any kind of fire performance, i'd just end up going well duh!
what a shame frown


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bender
GOLD Member since Nov 2001

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Posted:exaggerating one'saffiliation with HoP in giving bogus advice on a potentially dangerous art always runs the risk of being caught.

nevertheless i would hesitate in passing judgement before this individual gets a chance to explain himself...


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Zauberdach


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Posted:At least he didn't tell them to soak it in petrol... jeez some people are complete b******ds frown

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MikeIcon
GOLD Member since Mar 2003

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Posted:Well, she used white gas which isnt a whole hell of a lot better.

Let's turn those old bridges we crossed into ashes.
We'll blaze a new trail,
and torch the rough patches.

-Me

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GothFrogette
BRONZE Member since Mar 2017

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Posted:
i know of people who were going to set sock poi on fire... so unfortuently this doesn't shock me.

its just a good Job that it was acted on and drawn to our attention. You have to love HOP... this thread just shows people how caring you all are hug


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LazyAngel
GOLD Member since Jul 2004

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Posted:actually I have met people who told me about experimentation with tennisballs dipped in paraffin when they were drunk. Fortunately no one was hurt, but it did make quite a mess. I find myself constantly despairing of people who want to spin fire but have not put any thought into the safety aspects of it.

I mean, is the need to spin fire really so urgent that you can't spend 15 minutes searching for info, reading it up and then checking you're actually going to be safe when you light up? that brief period of time could make a difference on the whole of the rest of your life...


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Rozi
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Posted:One of the most common things I get asked by passersby when I am spinning is "so you light those <points at tennis ball/sock poi> on fire?". I have to take great care when I answer and say "not these ones, I have some fire poi. But I do this with fire, yes."

People who have not seen real fire poi will leap to the (il)logical conclusion that you must be able to light practice poi somehow. And that's when they bring out the tennis balls of fiery doom.

Although it does worry me that someone has visited the HoP shop and not made the connection, cos the firepoi are all there to see!


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PK_
BRONZE Member since Dec 2001

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Posted:Written by: somber

toys: everything that i can set on fire : poi (fire & comet)






confused so that link does say some thing along these very same lines.

I totally agree with you Rozi, people just assume because they do not know.
I would have thought with how big the community is now that there would be more informal information being passed to the general public from this community... people talk you know. wink

hope you get to the bottom of this malcolm hug


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bender
GOLD Member since Nov 2001

still can't believe it's not butter
Location: Melbourne, Australia

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Posted:sometimes we aren't simply twirlers,
we are also fire safety ambassadors with fantastic legs
:glints in eye:


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