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Thumperabbit
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Posted:Recently i've gotten into Jo staffs. as currect I own a 4ft red oak Jo staff, anyone else interested in combat with staff's here?

The only reason i'm scared of little kid's is because I know in ten year's time they'll be mugging me.....

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Posted:I know a few HoPpers that use Bo Staff.

I've never heard of Jo staff though...


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The Misguided Oracle
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Posted:only if the staff is in all its flaming glory

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strugz
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Posted:played with Jo and Bo staffs - Jo staffs are small er FRD thats all dude smile

Combat - great fun as long as you have a willing partner - to get routines tight though so you can actually do the sequence of moves without thinking (only way to make it look like a real fight) takes hours and hours of repetative practice.

Well worth it though - if you got the time, which is something im sadley lacking these days rolleyes


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Charles
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Posted:I have some Taiwanese Killing sticks that I practice staff moves with. Well thats my name for them....

Don't know much about them except I bought them in a martial arts store sale, and dropped one on concrete once, to find that the concrete was broken and not the staff.

Shortly after that, and hitting myself in the shin twice, I prompt wrapped some padding aorund each end.

I say, learn the moves, but use the padding! ubblol


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Moka
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Posted:More like wear gloves... I love fooling around with all kinds of stick fighting in my martial arts but I find the worst thing is getting hit in the hands and fingers by wayward strikes... :P
Cheers, Moka


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Posted:These might help. smile

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entheogen
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Posted:Hmmmn, Taiwanese killing staffs you say? What kindave wood is that and where do you get them?

My performing partner is notorious at bending his contact staff faster than you can say 'Its a bird, no its a plane!', which becomes my problem since he then grabs my sticks as soon as my back is turned.

He bought a Red Oak staff at the local martial arts store... it lasted ten minutes.


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Posted:My partner and I use staffs and swords in lit combat.

We have leather gloves that were made for us, as were the leather doublets we wear for combat. Our pants are also leather and were purchased at a local biker store.

It's a LOT of fun, hell on your safeties, and requires hours and hours of choreography.


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Stone
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Posted:Try a search on stick fighting.

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Posted:i bought a three section staff online a while bk and converted it to fire, by adding redbull cans and kevlar, works really well (falmouth) but i also have a tapered bo white oak bo staff which is ace! use to have a graphite but it got stolen, STAFF'S KICK ASS!

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gwydion71
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Posted:i started with the bo staff now thay are flaming

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GeoffonTour04
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Posted:used to do reenactment with a 7' staff with a hook on, they're pretty good weapons but there're a lot of ways to get caught out against swords/axes

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mcp
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Posted:oxford is farrrrrrr away, and I want to learn quarterstaff. frown

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GeoffonTour04
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Posted:hold it diagonally, hands opposed, and block with the nearest part with as little movement as possible. When you blocked hit back with the opposite end in an undefended area, or if no such opportunity presents itself, set yourself up a feint or something tricky. That's the basics, there should be loads on the web.

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Posted:OH OH OH I DO I DO PICK ME OH PLEASE

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Mr Majestik
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Posted:i choose devilsarmy!...........wait, why was i choosing people???

how about just fighting with a sword in its sheath? i've heard of some pretty cool techniques using that


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Posted:BEWARE THE MIGHTY WOODEN SPOON!!!
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stiched_up
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Posted:hey thumperrabit i train with the philipino martial atrs called kali whitch is stick fighting. very co-ordination based!! what do you think??

mmmmmmm fire.... he he he!!!

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Bender_the_Offender
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Posted:i magine that staff combat choreo would look somewhat like this...

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mcp
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Posted:I think this should have a caption competition...

"Ha evil ninja using the fire element style! I will steal it from you and fight you on your own terms!"

"You can try, but I have combined the fire element style with the hipthrust! You never defeat me! Muahahahahahahahhaha"

<fight ensues>


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Posted:Written by: lukestone

hey thumperrabit i train with the philipino martial atrs called kali whitch is stick fighting. very co-ordination based!! what do you think??


Is Kali the same as Escrima?

If so I have considered trying to learn the basics for fire performing but I imagine it would be too dangerous to hit someone that many times with a burning stick. wink

Its incredibly impressive to watch anyway though. The knife fighting looks amazing too!


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ado-p
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Posted:I thought they used Kali Sticks in Escrima?

Im not sure about that though and have no evidence to back it up. Its merley a distant memory of heresay that i chose not to investigate any further smile

Hope that helps


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mcp
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Posted:I thought they used escrima sticks in escrima? Obviously to mimic the form of a machete without cutting other peoples limbs off.

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Seye
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Posted:I think (if I remember correctly) that escrima / kali are the same thing. They are just names from different reigions. I think there is one more name too but i cant remember it at the moment.

Meg - they do sticks and knives the techniques are slightly different.


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Bender_the_Offender
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Posted:Kali (Silat) is a malay/indo martial arts, and the name of the hindu goddess of destruction, and a pretty decent psytrance DJ.

Escrima is a Phillipino stick fighting martial art. i don't know more than this re: escrima that doesn't go into bruce lee flicks.

Vegemite is an incredibly nutritious yeast-based spread that fortifies the mind and sharpens the senses, whose benefit is doubled when you eat it on wholemeal, gluten-free bread.

combining at least two of the three would be quite a beautiful thing.


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Posted:Kali is filipino. Silat is malay/indonesian. Due to the influence of Guro Dan Inosanto, many people teach a blend. Therefore, Kali-Silat.

Escrima, Arnis, and Kali are used interchangeably in the west to describe filipino stick/knife arts.

Some of those stick arts use the baston just as a stick. Others are using it in place of a sword.

Cheers!
Patrick

p.s. Bender if you're ever interested, I can give you contact details for a good teacher of Kalis Ilustrisimo in Melbourne.


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Posted:Thumperabbit, back in my aikido days we used to mess about* with jo staffs quite a lot.

There's a HUGE aikido presence in South Wales, including this club in Swansea if you're interested. It's a bit of a roundabout way of getting to learn proper jo techniques, but pretty durn cool in it's own right!


*for "mess about" read "train diligently" ;o)


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BEWARE THE MIGHTY WOODEN SPOON!!!


HAHAHA


when i saw this forum ithought you meant real fighting cos ive had a 2 bad experiences like that frown not good, even if you do win, if you do get in a fight run.......now back to the more happy things in life FIRE ubblove....1 of my thousands of friends ubblol and i fight with fire staves but we have never performed publicaly


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jonathan


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Posted:yeah bender, im into a bit of biffo with weapons.........

its all good fun so long as one bears in mind its gonna hurt when accidents happen........

we used to make staffs with padding so we could hit with impunity, but we found that skill and timing were replaced with 'bashing' for want of a better word. same with shinai too. not the same with swords though, not the same at all. they scary and pointy and hurty.

i like staff for teaching people confidence with weapons as you can be a fair distance from danger and still get the excitement and feel of what its all about.

and having fun is what its all about i guess.


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Bender_the_Offender
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Posted:power and precision are two important goals in marital arts - it doesn't require too much skill to hurt somebody, and it takes the utmost skill to not hurt someone!

precision is honed with practice, so let's start building wooden men! heh


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