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Richee
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Posted:http://www.worldbaton2005.com/index_english.htm
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Well this championship is over. Id like to know if someone was there and can comment it.



There is preview from Osaka too

http://www.worldbaton2005.com/movie_promo/worldbaton2004clips.wmv
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with nice addings to Osaka vid.



:R



Edit: The next one is in Roma so Europeans can dream about smile


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Posted:God thats good stuff. Do they ever have competitions like that with long staffs?

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Richee
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Posted:No just with short baton staff, but you can try it with long staff too, cause what they do is almost inpossible with long staff smile. You can find video from the last year called "Official results Osaka 2004" is the best staff video I saw ever.

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mcp
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Posted:biggrin



almost impossible? Nahhhhhhhhh. You be careful with these impossibly words eh richee... wink



I decided to learn a frontside angel roll cos that the only thing on that video (along with the end holding stuff) that I haven't seen anybody do with a firestaff. [ There was a video of somebody doing it with a firestaff at nottingham, but I didn't see it, so it doesn't count. ] in terms of individual moves. Linking them up that way I haven't seen.


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Mynci
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Posted:meg...have you seen the elbow shuffle pops with a neck catch.. eek that was impressive (by the chinese girl) i tried and nearly broke my skull...

A couple of balls short of a full cascade... or maybe a few cards short of a deck... we'll see how this all fans out.

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mcp
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Posted:I've seen neck catches and throws, but only by very stupid boys...

"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

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Mynci
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Posted:I DO fall into that catagory wink
the elbow shuffle works all pretty though, just tricky popping it high enough to catch without ugliness.

but a lot is doable I recon


A couple of balls short of a full cascade... or maybe a few cards short of a deck... we'll see how this all fans out.

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shoonya


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Posted:Written by: mcp

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almost impossible? Nahhhhhhhhh. You be careful with these impossibly words eh richee... wink

Your so right mcp!! Its all just a matter of training and feeling.
And there are some contact staff spinners you have never seen...
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mcp
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Posted:So arashi thinks I'm not totally [censored] now eh? Oh I'm soo glad. wink

Man, I wish it wasn't so cold here, staff is not so much fun when you can't feel your fingers...

I've never met you, but hope you have fun in india... biggrin


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"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

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Posted:Written by: mcp

Man, I wish it wasn't so cold here, staff is not so much fun when you can't feel your fingers...





Hypocrit ubbloco

isnt that what contact staff is for wink

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Posted:Almost everything that a baton twirler does is easier with a long staff, it's greater length and weight give you more control and the staff more momentum & stability. Try doing the matrix with a devil stick for comparison.

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mcp
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Posted:you'd think eh? First time I did loads and loads of fishtails was with a baton.

Weird contact is much easier when you have a small metal thing with rubber ends approaching your face, rather than a large metal thing with metal ends, and screws and [censored].

Yes, you can feel a heavier stick more, and you have more room for contact, but well a baton is a nicely weighted device with the one heavy end giving you more options when it comes to contact.

And yet, people can matrix with devilsticks and batons. So it can't be that hard can it?


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I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

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Richee
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Posted:aton is faster so you can think more further, its like playing chess.

"The good spinner has good sense what will happen after."

What you learn with short staff, will not brings you with long staff bigger problem .

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mcp
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Posted:apart from bad planes.

Planes come for free with long staffs.


"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

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Mynci
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Posted:that propellor above the elbow would be well tricky with a long stick because you would have less room for error.

A couple of balls short of a full cascade... or maybe a few cards short of a deck... we'll see how this all fans out.

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Posted:Absolutely Richee, If you learn a contact move with a short staff you're so much smoother when using longer one.

Meg, I've spent much of my summer practising with a baton twirler and playing with her toys. The 3/4 weighting of a baton does make some movements easier than they appear, but not as easy as doing them with a long staff.


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mcp
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Posted:alright. I guess you would know then.

"the now legendary" - Kaskade
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I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

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shoonya


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Posted:Written by: mcp

Man, I wish it wasn't so cold here, staff is not so much fun when you can't feel your fingers...

When I started staff spinning in1991 we were in the Alpes with snow and -5 degrees C... so just spinn for 5 minutes before you start contact biggrin biggrin



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shoonya


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Posted:Written by: Richee

Baton is faster so you can think more further, its like playing chess.

"The good spinner has good sense what will happen after."

:R



A really good spinner doesnt think anymore...
he is getting in tune , getting one with the staff not thinking of the next move.
So if you try contact staff sloooooww down and feel what is going on... This is the only way to really get control... rolleyes


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Richee
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Posted:Yup, i ment not thinking of next move rather intuition, like 6th sense smile.
Meghan > i agree, you are right.

Well back it topic, have you been there, hear about it?


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mcp
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Posted:I finally warmed my fingers up, I have bad circulation, it doesn't help...

1991! wow, So you've been spinning, for like, longer than arashi? Man, that's a long time.

I'm not at the stage where I can just let go and flow about in my moves. When I do this, I usually find something new, so it distracts me and I have to explore it. It's a bit of a pain.


"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

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shoonya


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Posted:Ok, I have to admit that we used really heavy wooden sticks 38mm diameter and 2,30 m long and were spinning for hours til there was no more flesh on the hand .. but finally we threw away all clothes (not the underwear!) wink

But I have bad circzulation as well so I am looking forward to spinning in South India with temperatures above 25 C ubbrollsmile



Hey isnt it good to find something new? Next time when you feel the flow in your move try not thinking about what is happening, if you ever did that move or is it a new one, how to name or repeat it. Your subconsciousness will register and store the move you dont have to care but the flow will go on what will lead to a different dimension of playing where there is no more distraction between you and the staff but oneness.... ubblove

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mcp
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Posted:I wish.

unfotunately, I'm making up a routine too, so that's a massive distraction...


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"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

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Posted:Written by: mcp

I've seen neck catches and throws, but only by very stupid boys...



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Maybe I should change this too something abit nicer, humm no I still think your all Ccensoredt

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entheogen
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Posted:Needing a longer heavier stick for contact is bogus. Its all about what you get used to. I think the only difference is that when you use a bigger stick, the movement is going to be slower.

I personally prefer a 1.1meter staff that I can use for contact and multiple staff manipulations. A friend of mine was always trying to talk me out of practicing the half steves with such a small stick, but nowadays I find it much easier with the small stick than with the bigger one.

OK, granted, I still haven't managed to get the matrix with my small staffs, but for that I can hold elbow propellors.


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