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Why the hell is philosphy reserved only for poi?



"Poi is life"...... where the hell is staff in that equation?



Poi gets all the "There is no move" BS... what do we get? Nowt.



S'not fair. I want to be able to terrify newbies with such confusing words of wisdom, but yet there doesn't seem to be any spiritual side to staff... Lame!



Is it because staffers are, by default, meat heads? Is it beacuse philosophy is reserved only for the wussier side of object manipulation?



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The existance of flamethrowers says that someone, somewhere, at sometime said "I need to set that thing on fire, but it's too far away."

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The existance of flamethrowers says that someone, somewhere, at sometime said "I need to set that thing on fire, but it's too far away."

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on a personal note, I'm learning poi before I learn staff just to get used to spinning with fire itself. Don't get me wrong, I like the poi but definately want to learn the staff (soonish)
Poi is just easier....(to start with) IMO

On a side note, I've laughed alot more reading this thread than half the poi threads. I guess more men then women tend to do staff & vice versa with poi.....

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A couple of balls short of a full cascade... or maybe a few cards short of a deck... we'll see how this all fans out.

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you were there Meg - were we that bad youve forgotten already

"...We don't stop playing because we get old, we get old because we stop playing......."

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I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

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*pouts* see it does work *strikes manly pose* and the trick looks better when I do it.....

A couple of balls short of a full cascade... or maybe a few cards short of a deck... we'll see how this all fans out.

Id call it total contact i may even post it in the new moves thread "conveyor belt to someoneelses balls"

difficult move to pull off - i must be good

"...We don't stop playing because we get old, we get old because we stop playing......."

"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

hard to catch anything when you laugh that hard afterwards...

A couple of balls short of a full cascade... or maybe a few cards short of a deck... we'll see how this all fans out.

I also picked up staff much quicker.

But have you tried contact yet truespin?

Took me ages just to get a bloody half steve!

The existance of flamethrowers says that someone, somewhere, at sometime said "I need to set that thing on fire, but it's too far away."

is this why there's no staff philosophy?

Staffers get distracted and start talking about what steves are?
(search for a vid in this very forum called "Drew and Staff", it's labelled in the vid as 'Steve's move', funnily enough...)

Do staff threads go more than poi threads?

Is this a sign of staffer's greater ability at lateral thinking than the constricted and narrow minded poi spinners?

Is this also the cause of our planes generally being shitter too?

All these and more will be answered by God during a small Q&A session in the tea room at 11:45.
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"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

Meg: how about 'MORE CHEESE!'

hmmm... I think a lot of the philosophy stuff comes from people talking about spinning at an advanced stage of the evening when they are under the influence of one or more recreational drugs, cos its kind of interesting to see what people can come up with, and its kind of fun.

And being philosophy, you can say anything you want about it. It's just fun to look for wider patterns in things.

Plus you can philosophise while in a very small space, whereas it is much more difficult to spin iin this condition.

sooo.... philosophy of things is an excuse to talk about spinning on a level which everyone can participate in, rather than talking about technical stuff which just confuses everyone.

Getting to the point, here's my little piece of staff philosophy:

The staff is rigid, and therefore represents that in your life which is unchangable. Learning to manipulate the staff represents the way in which we deal with our current situation.

Just as some situations seem great and then come to bite you on the arse, some of the greatest staff moves often lead to *bonk*

Thus a staff spin is a reflection of our ability to deal with life and to apply skills we have learnt in the past to avoid getting twatted in the head today.

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The problem is...

Poi are much harder to use than staffs.
They have a life of their own and will happily swing by themselves.




Now thats a load of bollox. Failing with a poi may be more potentonaly faital but staff is not easier in any way. But most staffers never get beond just twearling the staff over your head or ether side of you in diffrent ways. Take using 2 staffs vs 2 poi for instans. where two staffs has 4 points of Flames to keep in mind while poi only has 2. Try to do a 360 rotation throw in front of you both two staffs, and now try the same thing with 2 pois. Whats easy and not depends purly on how far your willing to take it. How hard somthing is compeard to somthing else has only to do with what lvl you want to take it to.

Philosophy is important to. Staffers just tend to be a bit more secure in there ways and dont need to spend houers at end talking about it instedd of enjoing the art.

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If you were to compare poi to staff, it would be more sensible to say single staff vs a pair of poi, and double staff to quadruple poi.

Planes for both comparisons are pretty much the same

I disagree with you on saying poi is harder than staff. I've been ding poi and staff for roughly the same period of time, and staff has come to me a lot quicker than with poi. Poi requires an almost 6th sense to help you guide were you want the poi to go. Staff is far more obediant, and the points follow each other.

The existance of flamethrowers says that someone, somewhere, at sometime said "I need to set that thing on fire, but it's too far away."

Keep your dream alive
Dreamin is still how the strong survive

Shalom VeAhavah

New Hampshire has a point....

Because ActiveAngel sounds like a feminine deodorant

Like sex, I'm much more interesting in real life than online.

'Be the change you want to see in the world around you' - Ghandi

*no moves there are no moves there are no moves there are no moves there are no moves there are no*

"Oooh, what a shiny new move!"

I like chrono's....

I think when we get beyond "try not to damage anything when you hit yourself" the next step is just yoda:

Do or do not, there is no try.

or drew:

Don't TRY to do it, Just do it.

Keep your dream alive
Dreamin is still how the strong survive

Shalom VeAhavah

New Hampshire has a point....

"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

Interesting? Does interesting mean "free of contact staff" these days?

Keep your dream alive
Dreamin is still how the strong survive

Shalom VeAhavah

New Hampshire has a point....

"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

Reading this thread reminds me of a zen proverb...

novice rushes up to staff jedi;

"Master, I finally understand. There is no staff! "

!!! BONK !!!

"So how do you explain the lump on your head? "

*no moves there are no moves there are no moves there are no moves there are no moves there are no*

"Oooh, what a shiny new move!"

is this thread still going? if anything it seems staff spinners are to busy cracking jokes, talking absolute rubbish and dissing poi to come up with any decent philosophy...

It is our fantasies that make us real. Without our fantasies we're just a blank monkey' - Terry Pratchett