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NYC
NYC

NYC
Location: NYC, NY, USA
Member Since: 26th Aug 2001
Total posts: 9232
Posted:While traveling abroad this summer (and having the time of my life!) it hit me that every country I went to had different names for different fuels, different stores and different logistical problems/advantages for fire twirling (after searching through Paris for a store I couldn't find and a fuel I couldn't spell ). Perhaps if we all stuck our heads together we could make a thread for our own city for others to use as a resource... As I always say: "A local is worth a thousand guidebooks"

Feel free to add any other topics I forgot. And maybe I'll have to bump this thread up before next summer.

For example... My input would be:

CITY:
New York City (Lower Manhattan)

PLACE TO GET FUEL AND FUEL NAMES:
KMart: 8th street and 4th Avenue ("Lamp oil"-by lamps, "White gas"-in camping section)

Also some other local "Hardware stores"

PLACE TO SPIN:
Washington Square Park, Union Square.

LOGISTICS:
I never heard of a problem or arrest in a public park but have been shut down by the police in Union Square. I've also heard of people spinning in Central Park but that's a bit uptown and perhaps dangerously large at night. Technically it is illegal and sometimes the police will let you know that.


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Kyrian
Dreamer
Location: York, England
Member Since: 15th Mar 2002
Total posts: 4308
Posted:Great Idea NYC!!!

LOCATION: South Central CT Shore

PLACES TO BUY FUEL/FUEL NAMES: Walmart, Home Depot, Most Local Hardware Stores, some gas stations. (call them first.)

"Lamp Oil (parrafin)" but lamps or in a special section lablelled "fuels."

"Kerosene" at some gas stations or in the "fuels" section of a hardware store.

"White Gas" Coleman's Camping Fuel.... availible in the Camping section or sometimes in teh cooking section.

PLACES TO SPIN:
New London- Ocean Beach.
East Lyme/Niantic- Rocky Neck State Park (closes at sundown)
Old Saybrook- Harvey's Beach (did i screw up that name?)
East Haddam- park (i need the name)
Westbrook- (need name of beach still) Madison/Clinton- Hammonasset State park
Norwich- park (need name)
Some private houses/beaches availible.

LOGISTICS: open flame is illegal in the state of CT, but no one has had a problem with it so far that i know of. the smaller the town you are in, the more careful you should be about the cops.


Keep your dream alive
Dreamin is still how the strong survive

Shalom VeAhavah

New Hampshire has a point....

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Raymund Phule (Fireproof)
Raymund Phule (Fireproof)

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Location: San Diego California
Member Since: 31st Dec 2001
Total posts: 2905
Posted:HMM

USA: Name your place

Place to get fuel:
Wal*Mart and any other store ending with Mart.
Any hardware store, True Value, Lowes, Ace, Home Depot

Camping sections and out door furnature.

Place to spin:
Well in San Diego, any beach. In New Mexico, any parking lot, avoid anything not paved due to wild fire hazerd.

Logisitics:

Cops in New Mexico, they are more worried about underage drinking and drugs then your fire.

San Diego, I have never been botherd.


Some Jarhead last night: "this dumb a$$ thinks hes fireproof"

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Mark P
Mark P

old hand
Location: Bath, England
Member Since: 26th Oct 2001
Total posts: 1031
Posted:Nice to see you back NYC - damn teachers get far too much holiday

Nice Idea for a thread.

Area :
Bath (UK)

Fuel Purchase :
Homebase (most expensive about 4.50 for 4 ltrs)
Guildhall Market (3.50 for 4 ltrs)
Garage Pump (lansdown) (0.50 per ltr but need container)
24 hr garage (lower bristol road) (4 something for 4 ltrs but it is a 24 hour supply )

Spinning :
Just about any of the parks seem to be ok. Queens Square is a good central place, tend to meet regularly on a Monday night.
The Circus is slightly darker, has good acoustics if anyone sings and pretty surroundings.
Would like to spin in front of the royal cresent too (victoria park area)

Logistics :

Well never had a problem while spinning, police cars, fire engines and ambulances quite often pass us at Queens Square and we have never been stopped. I have once been stopped by the police at about 3am but that was when we were on the way to play with the fire sword and a friend was waving the sword around, just got asked what it was and when we explained it was for fire performances we were asked not to wave it in the street and sent on our way

Mark P


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SmokyDavy
Do my poi look too small in this?
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Member Since: 17th Jan 2002
Total posts: 394
Posted:Area :
Toronto Canada

Fuel Purchase :
Camping Fuel or keroscene(stinky) from:
Canadian Tire (CDN$3.99/3.8Litre container)
Wallmart
any camping shop

Spinning :
Trinity Bellwoods park on tuesdays, or any park whenever you want. Or Cherry beach(right side) on sundays

Logistics :
So long as you're not busking they probably won't bother you, but they don't allow people to busk without a city permit.

[ 23 August 2002, 15:27: Message edited by: FieryFlow ]


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Cassandra
Cassandra

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Location: Back in Paris... for now !
Member Since: 8th Jun 2001
Total posts: 4224
Posted:::hugs NYC and thanks him for that great thread::

CITY:
Paris, FRANCE

PLACE TO GET FUEL AND FUEL NAMES:
BHV shopping mall near the Hotel de ville but that'd be expensive. Try almost any supermarket like Franprix, Casino, etc ...
Also most local "Hardware stores"

PLACE TO SPIN:
Jardin Tino Rossi near Jussieu / INstitut du Monde arabe by the seine river. In teh summer : fire every night. Winter mostly week ends sometimes ...
Rue des Trois freres (near Montmartre) there is a little place quite close to a juggling shop called "Bonjour l'artiste" where fire / juggler / spinners gather. Again , mainly in summer

LOGISTICS:
Busking is illigal in Paris allthough wide spread. Spinning fire does not seem to bother cops too much especially the above mentioned spots. After 1/2 am they are more concerned of who holds drugs than who's spinning fire.

Shine on
Cassandra


"I want brown bread... no, that is diesel oil..."
"So I was raised in Europe, where History comes from ..."
"NON !!! La Plume de mon oncle n est pas Bingibangibungi !!!"

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NYC
NYC

NYC
Location: NYC, NY, USA
Member Since: 26th Aug 2001
Total posts: 9232
Posted:Hey knucklehead,

Why don't you tell the fine folks at home what fuel is CALLED in France. Since it took me a full day to find it...


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Cassandra
Cassandra

Froggie ... Ribbit !!!
Location: Back in Paris... for now !
Member Since: 8th Jun 2001
Total posts: 4224
Posted:Sorry crackhead ... I think it took you ages cause you were searching in Chocolate shops thoughn !!!!

anyway ... fuel to spin to :

PARAFFINE LIQUIDE
KERDANE
PETROLE DESAROMATISE
HUILE POUR LAMPE

shine on
cass


"I want brown bread... no, that is diesel oil..."
"So I was raised in Europe, where History comes from ..."
"NON !!! La Plume de mon oncle n est pas Bingibangibungi !!!"

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adamrice
adamrice

poo-bah
Location: Austin TX USA
Member Since: 19th Dec 2000
Total posts: 1015
Posted:USA: Austin, Texas

Where to get fuel:
Walmart or equivalent: usually has white gas and citronella lamp oil
Home Depot: citronella lamp oil (may have kero and other fuels). Open 24 hours
Breed & Co hardware: clear lamp oil, kerosene, denatured alcohol, etc.
Academy: clear lamp oil, white gas

Places to spin:
Remote park locations would be best. Zilker, Mayfield. Fire-free spinning fairly common at Barton Springs.

Logistics:
Fire not tolerated in busy areas. Fire might be tolerated in remoter areas, (except during burn bans), but if someone complains to the cops, the cop will tell you to cut it out.

I'm adding the following item, just 'cuz.

Community:
Austin has a big, friendly, and fairly cohesive fire community.


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NYC
NYC

NYC
Location: NYC, NY, USA
Member Since: 26th Aug 2001
Total posts: 9232
Posted:Hrmmmm... I somehow thought that firespinning was big in New Zealand and Australia... C'mon kids, take a second and tell us weary travelers where to buy our fuel! I'd like to be able to rewrite this into a resource...

Also, Ray, the stores you mentioned are predominantly West Coast. They don't exist in Manhattan for example and are hard to find/nonexistant outside of the island.


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Raymund Phule (Fireproof)
Raymund Phule (Fireproof)

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Location: San Diego California
Member Since: 31st Dec 2001
Total posts: 2905
Posted:Thats what you get for living on an island, NYC hehe

Naw dun go to Home Depot anyway, I had to pay nearly $8.00 for a gallon of lamp oil, and to top it off the stuff had such a high flash point I had to hold my lighter to it for like 30 seconds before it got hot enough to burn!!

I was not happy, but hey $5 of that $8 wasnt mine so no biggie hehe


Some Jarhead last night: "this dumb a$$ thinks hes fireproof"

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Kali
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Location: Berlin, Germany
Member Since: 29th Apr 2002
Total posts: 577
Posted:Here's what I learned abroad:

City:
Prague, Czech Republic

Places to buy fuel:
Bum it off the quasi-homeless guys spinning on the Charles Bridge. They call it "Petrol"

Logistics:
While it is a lovely place to spin and there are lots of tourists, making it a good busking opportunity, it is illegal to spin on the Charles Bridge in Prague. I don't know what they do to you if they catch you because I hid my tools in time and I don't want to find out. So, just be careful.


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Sterlingspider
Sterlingspider

Senator by day, Sith Lord by night.
Location: Suffolk, New York
Member Since: 25th Aug 2002
Total posts: 128
Posted:NYC, any info on fire spinning out here in the 'burbs? (I'm in South Nassau and just starting out, all help is highly appreciated).

"If the human brain were simple enough for us to understand, we would be too simple to understand it"
-Emerson M Pugh

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flash fire
flash fire

Sporadically Prodigal
Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia
Member Since: 25th Jan 2001
Total posts: 2758
Posted:Area:
Australia

Fuel & Where to Purchase :
*Kerosene, aka kero, from most petrol stations, hardware stores and grocery stores.

*Citronella Oil (lamp oil) from hardwares

*White Gas - dunno really, only ever used it in Canada. Probably available at most camping/disposals stores

*Firewater - we use this most of the time. We get it from Juggleart over the internet, but those in Melbourne can probably purchase directly from their shop. Fantastic product.

Spinning :
Too many to mention!

Logistics :
So long as you're not busking they probably won't bother you, but they don't allow people to busk without a city permit. But we've done it and got away with it several times... Pretty cruisy in general


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Paddy
back from the dead...sort of
Location: 4341'N 7938'W
Member Since: 23rd Feb 2002
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Posted:hey flash, when were you in Canada? did you used to live here or were you just stopping by~?

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flash fire
flash fire

Sporadically Prodigal
Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia
Member Since: 25th Jan 2001
Total posts: 2758
Posted:I lived in BC for 2 years - doing the Whistler thing. Arrived at the end of 98 and returned, very reluctantly, to AUstralia in 2000.

You have an exceptionally beautiful country!


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Sparkfire
Fire coach - Cirque du Soleil
Location: Bristol, UK
Member Since: 10th Dec 2001
Total posts: 89
Posted:Australia, Melbourne

Fuel:
Shell SolT, Pegasol, available in 20 litre drums (not the easiest to carry while travelling but good value) around $60 available from several major shell distributors around the city or from Concentrate fire equipment workshop, they have a website somewhere or something.
good fuel, not oily, no smell or smoke. safe for indoor use. slightly hotter flame than kero or parrafin but a lower flashpoint.

spinning
during summer every second friday at Edinburugh gardens. or head to a Confest at Easter or on New years. also any major psychadelic trance outdoor (where you'll find me!)

Legalities
no fire allowed in CBD due to some reklessness on the part of some idiot quite a few years ago. you could get away with busking in brunswick st or outside luna park. southbank is a good pitch but maybe a bit close to the cbd to get away with much fire.


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dj_retro
dj_retro

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Location: Oklahoma, USA
Member Since: 7th Jun 2002
Total posts: 87
Posted:Okay first off...what the crap is busking?
Is it like you have a little hat and you spin and people give you change? If I'm way off sorry thats that best I could think of...oh yea, and adamrice...I was in austin last week for EDC (too bad it was canned) but me and my friends went to 6th street to find something to do and we where at this tattoo/peircing place (forbiden fruit?) and there was this really cool girl that does henna tattoo's. so being the strange folke that me and my friends are we get some henna done and to find out she spins fire! I was NO WAY! I sat there and talked to her for soooo long while me and my friends got drawn on. She said that she knew sage and again I was like NO WAY! But when we where all done we went out into the street and spun out dry chains...it was fun non the less. I just thought it was weird b/c no one in Oklahoma City spins fire...that I know of.

oh yea

OKLAHOMA CITY
Fuel:
Like most people say Wal-Mart, you can get white gas in the camping section, its cheep too.
I know there are a few places that sell Kero...look in any yellow pages under said fuel.

Where to spin:
No idea...we do have a canal down town but I haven't gotten around to talking to the cops or fire marshel about spinning there...I mean think about it, there is more water there than anything and I personaly think it would look really cool with the flames reflecting off of it. I have been to a few parties that will let us (me and my friends) spin.

Personaly I don't think the cops in this area would like fire spinning around but if you don't get cought then hey all the more fun.


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Mal Fortune
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Location: Scotland
Member Since: 22nd Aug 2002
Total posts: 10
Posted:oII Kiel IIo - Busking = Street Performing.

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Mal Fortune
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Location: Scotland
Member Since: 22nd Aug 2002
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Posted:Oh aye, thought I'd my 2p worth:

Glenrothes area, Scotland

Fuel: I get decently priced parafin from various garages in the area. Famous Army Stores sell Coleman.

Where to play: Since the Fife area is pretty rural, there are loads to choose from. My favourite is to drive up to Falkland and go to the top of East Lomond Hill.

Never ever had a problem with police, farmers etc.


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Raymund Phule (Fireproof)
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Location: San Diego California
Member Since: 31st Dec 2001
Total posts: 2905
Posted:I need to get some info from the lovly spinners in Japan!! I need to know where and how to get fuel in Iwakuni Japan (mainland)

Some Jarhead last night: "this dumb a$$ thinks hes fireproof"

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adren@line
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Location: Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
Member Since: 28th Mar 2002
Total posts: 249
Posted:i can see this becoming a 'classic' post that someone will make a leatherbound cover for and youll be able to buy in a set for lotsa money....heres what you need to know in
TASMANIA

WHERE TO GET FUEL: cheapest is Purity or Coles supermarkets and chickenfeed (bargain store) petrol stations like Ampol, Shell, BP etc, but you can get it at camping shops and stuff as well

WHATS IT CALLED? kerosene, citronella oil is good and cheap as well, a mixture of both lasts a while too...

PLACE TO SPIN: anywhere, but if you want company go to Salamanca. beaches are cold but if you can find a non-windy spot its beautiful

WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW: as far as i know there are no permanent laws, but we do get total fire bans in summer, so id stick to the backyard or secluded beach. there arent too many spinners down here so your likely to get an audience, my neighbors still come out to watch!

[ 25. June 2003, 23:17: Message edited by: adren@line ]


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Malcolm
Malcolm

HOP admin
Location: HOP
Member Since: 18th Nov 2003
Total posts: 995
Posted:This information will be added to a SQL database soon. Please keep adding to the thread until it is up.

Regards

Malcolm


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SaBBaS
enthusiast
Location: Madrid, Spain
Member Since: 4th Jan 2002
Total posts: 215
Posted:LOCATION: Madrid, Spain

FUEL NAMES/LOCATION:

Keroseno - some hardware stores

Aceite de parafina - there's a chemical shop called "riesgo" near the "Gran Via"

Agua de fuego - there are 2 juggling shops called "El Elefante Blanco", just look 'em up or call me

LOCATIONS TO SPIN: definitely the "Retiro" park, specially weekends.

LOGISTICS: no idea, never had a problem, when Nomad was here the police just looked at us and didn't say anything, depends on the policemen though...

hope it helps


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Cassandra
Cassandra

Froggie ... Ribbit !!!
Location: Back in Paris... for now !
Member Since: 8th Jun 2001
Total posts: 4224
Posted:Just to add to SabbaS post : always ask police officer first. Have not had any problem doing fire (even one night in front of the royal palace But i think busking might be something else ! ! !
About retiro : sundays from 15 or 17 on is always a great great event

As for Barcelona : same hour same day but in Park de la ciutadella SPAIN ROCKS ! ! ! !

Shine on
Cassandra


"I want brown bread... no, that is diesel oil..."
"So I was raised in Europe, where History comes from ..."
"NON !!! La Plume de mon oncle n est pas Bingibangibungi !!!"

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Cassandra
Cassandra

Froggie ... Ribbit !!!
Location: Back in Paris... for now !
Member Since: 8th Jun 2001
Total posts: 4224
Posted:*bump*

can't let such a beautiful and useful thread die like that

shine on
Cassandra


"I want brown bread... no, that is diesel oil..."
"So I was raised in Europe, where History comes from ..."
"NON !!! La Plume de mon oncle n est pas Bingibangibungi !!!"

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Kat
Kat

Pooh-Bah
Location: London
Member Since: 13th Dec 2000
Total posts: 2211
Posted:JAPAN

Touyu (kerosene)

Get from any Gas Station. Bring your own can and ask for man tan (full tank)

Costs about 800 yen for a big tank.


Come faeries, take me out of this dull world, for I would ride with you upon the wind and dance upon the mountains like a flame.

- W B Yeats

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pantsonfire
the man with the flaming pants
Location: Brisvegas, Aust
Member Since: 25th Mar 2002
Total posts: 148
Posted:Good idea!!!
location: north new south wale, (byron to gold coast)Australia
FUEL: KERO, lamp oil (pretty much anywhere supermarket, petrol station, corner store and camping stores. just what everyone else in Australia says.
Where to spin: Any park, beach, mountain. good spinning meets are Burliegh heads beach front park on sunday nights and MOONFEST detail in the events calandar. Also if in byron go down the beach on any given night and there will be a bunch of spinners down there. there is a shop called fairy floss if you go there and ask you will be hooked up with most fire spinners in the byron area.
and for gold coast just go to a shop on the gold coast highway at palm beach called three worlds, its like a house/shop thing, they will hook you up with fire people in gold coast!!!
yeah watch out for the fire bans, but down the beach you should be right!!!

heres a bit of info on the sunshine coast (just north of brisbane) * i went spinning down the beach (while on holiday) and had to talk my way out of a fine from the local ranges!!!! so head to a quite beach, not moololabah or king beach!!!!
this was during a period with no fire ban!!!!

[ 20 September 2002, 17:26: Message edited by: pantsonfire ]


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Nathdaninja
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Location: Manchester, England
Member Since: 1st Mar 2002
Total posts: 271
Posted:Jeez...how did this thread die?
Such a good idea. So much so that I'm bumping it and shall be back soon with as much info as I can around Manc, UK. Cos I can tell you at the moment I'm having quite a few probs getting hold of anything.
Also trying to find a source of tittanium flakes, have a few contacts I'm nurturing, as it's really hard to get hold of...be back soon promise.

N


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nomad
nomad

retired
Location: Paris, France
Member Since: 15th Jan 2001
Total posts: 356
Posted:Is the SQL DB up?

Nomad


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DeepSoulSheep
DeepSoulSheep

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Berlin
Member Since: 25th Sep 2002
Total posts: 2617
Posted:CITY:
Dublin, Ireland

PLACE TO GET FUEL AND FUEL NAMES:
Parafin to be found hardware stores. In the city there's one on Georges Street and Talbot street.
Should cost about 7/8 euro.

PLACE TO SPIN:
During day and early evening St. Stephen's green is nice. Dartmouth square near leason street is also good.

Busking: Grafton street, though I don't know how long you'll be allowed to do fire before you're stopped. Tis down to discretion and number of people roudn etc. They should only ask you to stop that's all. Same applies to the square in Temple bar.

Steer clear of swinging fire in isolated places at night in the city centre. We found a lovely park in the city centre before but you attract unwanted scum like moths to a flame.

LOGISTICS:
Any hassle you get from police should be minimal (tell you to stop at worst). I've lit up in front of the police before and they did nothing.


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