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Richee
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Posted:BTB Fishtailes.



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Richee
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Total posts: 1841
Posted:Fishtales with Sticks, how funny smile,

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Nate
Nate

Groovy ga watashi no namae desu!
Location: Oxford, Oxfordshire, England
Member Since: 5th Aug 2004
Total posts: 1530
Posted:just like to say, for the sake of rubbing it in for those who werent there today, that i pulled off the doubles matrix twice today!

and thats a big WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH for me!


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Lavatwilight
Lavatwilight

old hand
Location: Wellington somerset, UK
Member Since: 11th Aug 2004
Total posts: 834
Posted:hummm, new for me be, stck-stick foward fishtails, double fowards fishtail working (still shakey) angel rolls and lots of continious contacty stuff that im not sure how works.

oh and matrix but instead of a spin on the throat side, you let it slip, lean back lottttssss and spin on your stomach


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A) it does feel as good
B) it does not look as good on film


strugz
strugz

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Location: Southampton - Possibly...
Member Since: 6th Mar 2002
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Posted:Hey Nate!!

ubbloco

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Good work man biggrin


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ed209
ed209

Ed: geek, staffer, past participle
Location: London, UK
Member Since: 13th May 2005
Total posts: 122
Posted:Ha-hey, I just did a SNES. A pretty unattractive SNES, but definitely very SNES-like. And managed to tidy up those halo rolls.

But I've having major problems nailing the half-steve. Anyone have any tips? Mostly what happens is the stick rolls down my arm and sort of diagonally wraps my shoulder blades rather than my neck then falls off. I have a feeling that I'm lowering my shoulder too much but do any of the staff senseis here have any tips?? For a start, when it first rolls down your arm is it meant to be centred all the way, or off-centre a bit?

All help muchly appreciated.

Ed



Lavatwilight
Lavatwilight

old hand
Location: Wellington somerset, UK
Member Since: 11th Aug 2004
Total posts: 834
Posted:start if off center, so that it contacts the arm centered, then keep the shoulders level, and it should wrap, then drop wecond shoulder, and let it roll down the arm, if possibly centered as well smile

how you entering your snes, opposite arm to shoulder, or same side?


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Kyle Mclean-
Contact without dance is like sex without wiggling.
A) it does feel as good
B) it does not look as good on film


ed209
ed209

Ed: geek, staffer, past participle
Location: London, UK
Member Since: 13th May 2005
Total posts: 122
Posted:Cheers, mate! We'll see if that works. If you keep it centred all the way down, does it eventually reach your neck off-centre so it can wrap properly?

SNES - opposite arm to shoulder - when I tried the same side, the staff tended to roll away from the neck before I could turn in time.

Regarding the SNES: Thank God for a really padded beanie. Heh.



Lavatwilight
Lavatwilight

old hand
Location: Wellington somerset, UK
Member Since: 11th Aug 2004
Total posts: 834
Posted:i havent looked at it, to see if it does reach the neck off center, but i guess it is.

ooo now try the snes leaning in strange places, and you might start matrixing.
same side is tres difficult, but it works after a while.


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Kyle Mclean-
Contact without dance is like sex without wiggling.
A) it does feel as good
B) it does not look as good on film


Nate
Nate

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Location: Oxford, Oxfordshire, England
Member Since: 5th Aug 2004
Total posts: 1530
Posted:ooh my, i've learnt a few rather nice throwy things recently.....all of which will be shown in my new video....when they eventually are clean enough to be filmed that is
oh and when my arms stop clicking......its worrying


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minimaniac
minimaniac

The Ladiees Man
Location: near swindon/ oxford
Member Since: 5th Nov 2004
Total posts: 360
Posted:ive just learnt to spin double staff in each hand!!!!

thats 8 balls of fire spinning around my body!


I'm going to leave the army and run away to the circus

if not i will just become a MI5 agent !!!


strugz
strugz

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Posted:explain dude..........

crosses - fishtaily stuff?

well done either way biggrin


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minimaniac
minimaniac

The Ladiees Man
Location: near swindon/ oxford
Member Since: 5th Nov 2004
Total posts: 360
Posted:two crosses, but now tring to pass one staff from hand to another using throws and contact but my god its difficult, there are too many staffs in the way to let them all spin freely.

I'm going to leave the army and run away to the circus

if not i will just become a MI5 agent !!!


yoni
yoni

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Location: Bideford and Bath
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Total posts: 3099
Posted:w00t
i cxan now do the first half of the matrix with my eyes shut same as almost all my moves now. bounce bounce2 bounce bounce2


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-sandy-
-sandy-

old hand
Location: Bristol
Member Since: 12th Jul 2004
Total posts: 716
Posted:Ben i completly agree with the over practicing thing, i spent all of yesterday spinning with fluff trying to get dual fishtails and the closest i got was 2 beats, pesky critters!
now ive got RSI in my right wrist and it hurts like hell frown
Also spent a lot of time on the behind the neck matrix (trying to get into a SNES) but didnt get too far, come back to that one me thinks wink
Did however get the neck wrap matrix down pretty well (about 60% of the time now) where you do the first half of the matrix, do a neck wrap (or propeller whatever you wanna call it) then the second half of matrix. WOOO.

Richee by BTB fishtails do you mean fishtailing behind the back or fishtail passing from one hand to the other behind the back? ive been working one the second one for a while and was wondering what you had found. confused


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pfsh
newbie

Member Since: 13th Jul 2005
Total posts: 6
Posted:somebody want to explain what the doubles matrix is???


strugz
strugz

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Location: Southampton - Possibly...
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Posted:Do you understand the matrix?

if so - doing it with doubles involes the non matrixing stick pass across your back (hand to hand) whilst the other does the matrix - its hard as feck smile

As much as i hate to say it - go download nates staff video and wait for the very end - he just happend to catch it on tape - because pulling it off consistantly is dam hard cool


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T&B
T&B

Me
Location: London/Bristol
Member Since: 30th Aug 2003
Total posts: 607
Posted:was playing about with waistwrap fishtails at the weekend think they fall into the completly useless but quite fun catorgory umm

pfsh double matrix is about the hardest move anyones bothered to name think there's a full thread devolted to them but the basic idea is do a matix with one staff and keeping the other staff spinning in some manner (normally horzontal pinwheel)


Maybe I should change this too something abit nicer, humm no I still think your all Ccensoredt


bluecat
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Location: everywhere
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Posted:Written by: T&B
double matrix is about the hardest move anyones bothered to name




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tim i think you need to spend some time with dual plane causalities wink


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-sandy-
-sandy-

old hand
Location: Bristol
Member Since: 12th Jul 2004
Total posts: 716
Posted:Ok now i wanna know what dual plane causalities are. Rob?
im guessing something to do with having 2 sticks in different planes but what do u do with them.
Also ive just learnt the doubles SNES yay biggrin
Tryed double matrix but it just ends in a whole heap of sticks and bruises at the moment.


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strugz
strugz

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Location: Southampton - Possibly...
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Posted:Know what you mean sandy smile

last night i nailed the doubles jesus - 4 times biggrin

most happy ubbrollsmile


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ado-p
ado-p

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Location: Galway/Ireland
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Posted:
Written by:
tim i think you need to spend some time with dual plane causalities wink



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T&B
T&B

Me
Location: London/Bristol
Member Since: 30th Aug 2003
Total posts: 607
Posted:what you mean you can't umm. I thought that was one of the hop basic lessions

Maybe I should change this too something abit nicer, humm no I still think your all Ccensoredt


greddyfirebrat
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Posted:i perfected butterfly last night looks nutz biggrin

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~Leah~
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Posted:yay, I just got my first staff in the mail this morning and I've just learnt the first move! Yay for me ubbloco

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mcp
mcp

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Location: Edin-borrow.
Member Since: 20th May 2003
Total posts: 5276
Posted:fishtailled parallel isolations. You all know it's stupid, but it has to be done.

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Pooh-Bah
Location: Bristol
Member Since: 6th Jan 2005
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Posted:fishtails fishtails fishtails! YEAY!!

I really though they would be impossible so i never really tried to do it but YEAYY!! (please excuse the noobie excitement!)



yoni
yoni

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Bideford and Bath
Member Since: 4th Jun 2005
Total posts: 3099
Posted:it's true i saw and i sort of did them to
w00t for you


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ben-ja-men
ben-ja-men

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Location: Adelaide
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Posted:Written by: mcp

fishtailled parallel isolations. You all know it's stupid, but it has to be done.



with short doubles or long?


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mcp
mcp

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Posted:I suppose if you were good, anything you could isolate with, but I use 1.2m doubles, cos i'm 'ardcore.

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"the still legendary" - Kaskade

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ben-ja-men
ben-ja-men

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Location: Adelaide
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Posted:are u isolating em one on either side of both infront somehow? i think u need to do a video

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