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Skizy
BRONZE Member since Dec 2004

Skizy

newbie
Location: Canada, Alberta.

Total posts: 5
Posted:What's more difficult? Poi or Staff?

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UCOF
SILVER Member since Apr 2002

UCOF

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: , United Kingdom

Total posts: 15414
Posted:rolleyes

Thats like saying... whats better: jam or peanut butter?

They are completly differnet so you cant compare them.

But the answer you are looking for is that Poi is harder.

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*multiple thread alert but I cant be bothered to find the older one*


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PyroWill
GOLD Member since Aug 2004

PyroWill

HoP's Barman. Trapped aged 6 months
Location: Staines, United Kingdom

Total posts: 4437
Posted:poi is definetly harder than staff, it hink poi looks more impressive if thats what your trying to accomplish at the same time, but in the end dont chose one cos its easier or harder, chose whichever one feels right, but only babies juggle so dont do that

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Ifrit
BRONZE Member since Aug 2004

Ifrit

The GF of HoP
Location: Somerset, England

Total posts: 492
Posted:If its not in the "other toys" section then its just not worth knowing biggrin

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Red_RaveN
GOLD Member since Jun 2003

Neo - Hippie
Location: Sala, Slovakia

Total posts: 358
Posted:Im a baby..8oO but hey I do poi and staff and contact juggling and all..

AND to your problem... poi is harder than normal staffing... but contact staffing is harder than poi... so.. best thing is to choose both


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stickman


World Champ Procrastinator
Location: ||...lost...||

Total posts: 580
Posted:yea i think normal staffing is easier than poi, but im not sure about the contact staffing..

my biggest problem with poi is that i cant move my hands/arms independently.. stalls and wraps and things like that are very difficult for me. not that im a master at contact staff or anything, but i think its easier to train yourself to learn that than stalls and isolations with poi.

but for all the babys, of which i am one, the same goes for juggling.. you have to be able to move your hands independently of one another in order to get some realy nice tricks to work..

but yes, i agree with White RaveN, its best to chose both cuz both have their charms


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PK_
BRONZE Member since Dec 2001

PK_

Lambretta Fanatic
Location: , United Kingdom

Total posts: 4993
Posted:the more you practice, the more you will achieve... goes for any thing in life, put in the wrench time and get what you dream.

PK.

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In giving love there is an equal grace.
Nor need one seek the aura in the face,
As love unveils the beauty of all things."

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majik


enthusiast
Location: Byron Bay Australia

Total posts: 231
Posted:I believe that all toys have there own charm and you can't place one above another by how difficult they are. Personally I started with poi because I found them easier and I felt they were for me. I've only picked up staff in the last few years and it wasn't much different than learning poi. Same as my other toys it all takes practice, patience and enthusiasm. You just have to get into it and try and you will find the right toy/s for you.

ps
as far as juggling is for babies. I can do some pretty tricky stuff with lops of different toys but I still can't juggle.


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Mr Majestik
SILVER Member since Mar 2004

Mr Majestik

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Location: home of the tiney toothy bear,...

Total posts: 4693
Posted:Majik is right. Each individual toy has its own pros and cons enabling them to do different tricks of various styles. Poi is harder than staff AT FIRST simply because a staff wont go limp and hit you in the head. this is rather a shallow topic as for most people, if you are commited then nothing is difficult with time.

Juggling is not for babies, you're just jealous cause we can do your staff and poi but you cant do our clubs, so nahhh!

*sticks tongue out in childish manner*


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Medusa
BRONZE Member since Nov 2003

Medusa

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Location: 8 days at Cloudbreak, 6 in Per...

Total posts: 1433
Posted:I think it depends on the individuals learning capacity in certain areas too...I find learning staff impossible but poi is easy....

Whereas a lot of my friends find poi impossible but staff a totally doable thing to learn.


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Mr Majestik
SILVER Member since Mar 2004

Mr Majestik

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Posted:i have found that generally guys find staff easier to begin with while girls find poi easier at first, tis rather strange

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Phaerie
BRONZE Member since Jan 2005

Phaerie

veteran
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Total posts: 1240
Posted:i hada staff for ages, but always felt really stupid when i picked it up, then i picked poi and it felt so natural... so i think its a matter of playing and seeing what fits for you

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Analemma


Analemma

enthusiast
Location: West LA

Total posts: 384
Posted:I wouldnt compare Staff and Poi, but what one could generally say:

Clubs are more difficult than Poi
Meteors are more difficult than Staff


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Mr Majestik
SILVER Member since Mar 2004

Mr Majestik

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Posted:this is quite true

"but have you considered there is more to life than your eyelids?"

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Frederick the Reckless
BRONZE Member since Aug 2004

Frederick the Reckless

Troupe Leader and founder, Fire and Steel
Location: Oregon, USA

Total posts: 241
Posted:poi? difficult? my 12 year old figured poi out in an afternoon! without a teacher! staff, however, he gets his bumps and knocks like they're going out of style...(no, he's not doing either lit... yet) i have been at staff for 20 years now, first as a weapon, then fire performance. to put a staff user next to poi, poi impresses more people, unless you are as knowledgeable in staff moves as i am. it usually comes out to a tie or narrow -margin lead for me when people compare the two. suffice to say, it's more the moves you choose to learn that makes one or the other harder. it's like (to quote my girlfriend) asking, " which is harder, Karate or Jujutsu?" two completely different styles...chain vs. rigid, striking vs. grappling. see where i'm going with this?

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Lemonkey


Lemonkey

Stalking amidst the desert, carrying an oversized scalpel...
Location: Huddersfield + Hull Uni... UK.

Total posts: 1019
Posted:I've never tried staff, but the contact moves seem far harder than any poi moves.


... juggling is also much, much harder than poi, IMO.

(Five ball >>>>> in hardness than 5 beat weave, which I still haven't mastered though...)


Willy - is bad for your health...

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ma'tina
BRONZE Member since Mar 2005

ma'tina

multiplex
Location: somewhere..., Germany

Total posts: 611
Posted:Written by: PoiBoxII

I wouldnt compare Staff and Poi, but what one could generally say:

Clubs are more difficult than Poi
Meteors are more difficult than Staff

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JtJ


JtJ

Check ya later
Location: Lower Shaw Farm

Total posts: 500
Posted:juggling diabolo, and unicycling is harder than poi and staff put together so blugh tongue

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Mr Majestik
SILVER Member since Mar 2004

Mr Majestik

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Posted:diabolo? i wouldn't say diabolo is harder.

"but have you considered there is more to life than your eyelids?"

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Lemonkey


Lemonkey

Stalking amidst the desert, carrying an oversized scalpel...
Location: Huddersfield + Hull Uni... UK.

Total posts: 1019
Posted:Diablo is the easiest to pick up, IMO.

Willy - is bad for your health...

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Mynci
BRONZE Member since Apr 2005

Mynci

Macaque of all trades
Location: wombling free..., United Kingd...

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Posted:Staff, poi and juggling together are harder still ubblol
wink


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Kyrian


Dreamer
Location: York, England

Total posts: 4308
Posted:The difference is this:
I know better than to spin staff indoors.
I do not know better than to poi indoors whilst talking on the phone.


Poi break more objects. Therefore poi are harder tongue
Wait, that logic makes no sense.... biggrin


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Dreamin is still how the strong survive

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coleman
SILVER Member since Aug 2002

coleman

big and good and broken
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay, United Kin...

Total posts: 7330
Posted:Written by: PoiBoxII

I wouldnt compare Staff and Poi, but what one could generally say:

Clubs are more difficult than Poi
Meteors are more difficult than Staff



i am more presumptuous and therefore i would compare staff and poi:

one stick is harder than one poi.
two sticks are harder than two poi.
ergo: stick is harder.

juggling is something completely different cos you need three things to even discuss it, and as such it does not fit into the comparison scheme used above.

wink


cole. x


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i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
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bluecat


bluecat

geek, level 1
Location: everywhere

Total posts: 5300
Posted:ubblol

girls are more difficult than both staff and poi
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strugz
BRONZE Member since Mar 2002

strugz

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Southampton - Possibly..., Uni...

Total posts: 3964
Posted:ditto

ubblol

thats the best statement ive ever read in this forum wink


"...We don't stop playing because we get old, we get old because we stop playing......."

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UCOF
SILVER Member since Apr 2002

UCOF

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: , United Kingdom

Total posts: 15414
Posted:*nods head and agrees*
smile


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Helz Bellz
SILVER Member since Aug 2002

lovin' it...
Location: Bristol!, United Kingdom

Total posts: 2444
Posted:** shakes head in disagreement **

It's boys that are difficult

tongue


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bluecat


bluecat

geek, level 1
Location: everywhere

Total posts: 5300
Posted:we're *so* easy.

oh.
er..

redface


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coleman
SILVER Member since Aug 2002

coleman

big and good and broken
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay, United Kin...

Total posts: 7330
Posted:both boys and girls are easy imho.

its when they get near each other that difficulties arise.

have to agree with hels overall though - i'm far from simple ubbloco


cole. x


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i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
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Helz Bellz
SILVER Member since Aug 2002

lovin' it...
Location: Bristol!, United Kingdom

Total posts: 2444
Posted:
i was gonna say..... girls are easy, boys are hard.... but thought better of it wink

oooops offtopic

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Kyrian


Dreamer
Location: York, England

Total posts: 4308
Posted:ubblol

boys are about 90% easy and 10% impossible


Keep your dream alive
Dreamin is still how the strong survive

Shalom VeAhavah

New Hampshire has a point....

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