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arsn


arsn

How do you change this thing???
Location: Behind the couch...

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Posted:This is just a friendly note to help out our new (within the past six months) hoppers.



When replying to, or begining a topic, please take note that this is an international website with people from all parts of the globe. We are mainly an English speaking Community, however, English may not be somebodies first language. Please take the time to read over your own posts before posting and please refrain from using what is commonly refered to as "MSN Speak" or even "Quick SMS".



What I mean by this is quick references such as 'ur' for you are or you're, skool for school, and etc.



If we can all just take a little time, it will make it easier for all in the long run.



Thanks. hug


I can't hear you... I have a banana in my ear.

"You mean I'll have to use my brain?... but I use staff!!!" ~ ben-ja-men

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polarity
SILVER Member since May 2005

polarity

veteran
Location: on the wrong planet

Total posts: 1228
Posted:Written by: Spiderbaby

101001110001

How does anyone feel about using binary code instead of English?



ASCII or Unicode?

As a geek and hacker I'd like to point out that for the most part the only people who use leetspeak are the most inept losers, whose computer use only goes as far as using other peoples programs to break into computers, that haven't been patched to protect against the most basic exploits. These people are correctly known as script kiddies or crackers, although variations on haxorz get the message across equally well. The fed always gets them in the end.

A true hacker writes so much programming code they become anal about proper spelling, punctuation and grammar in languages other than those they program in, just because it's such a pain in the ar$e fixing programs with single character mistakes in them.

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/65851
funny hacker vs. haxor thread on another forum.

If you're dyslexic or english is your second language you don't have to apologise, it's not like all the people with no excuse are any good at speaking english.


You aren't thinking or really existing unless you're willing to risk even your own sanity in the judgment of your existence.

Green peppers, lime pickle and whole-grain mustard = best sandwich filling.

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melon
BRONZE Member since May 2005

Inept Cock
Location: Swindon!!!!!!!

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Posted:01100010 01101001 01101110 01100001 01110010 01111001 00100000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01101110 01101111 00100000 01100111 01101111 01101111 01100100 00100000 01110101 01101110 01101100 01100101 01110011 01110011 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 01110010 00100000 01110011 01110000 01100101 01100001 01101011 01101001 01101110 01100111 00100000 01110100 01101111 00100000 01100001 00100000 01101101 01100001 01100011 01101000 01101001 01101110 01100101

im alan partridge........AHA!

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polarity
SILVER Member since May 2005

polarity

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Posted:In that case I must be a machine wink

You aren't thinking or really existing unless you're willing to risk even your own sanity in the judgment of your existence.

Green peppers, lime pickle and whole-grain mustard = best sandwich filling.

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melon
BRONZE Member since May 2005

Inept Cock
Location: Swindon!!!!!!!

Total posts: 162
Posted:u must be to read that ubblol

im alan partridge........AHA!

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Fine_Rabid_Dog


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Posted:*bump*



Written by: melon


u must be to read that ubblol





Methinks someone has missed the point of this thread. tongue smile



Could we all also make an effort with punctuation? Please? It just sucks, me having to add it all in my head to make it make sense smile

EDITED_BY: Fine_Rabid_Dog (1119284074)


The existance of flamethrowers says that someone, somewhere, at sometime said "I need to set that thing on fire, but it's too far away."

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myco
BRONZE Member since Nov 2004

myco


Location: melbourne, victoria, australia

Total posts: 2084
Posted:yeah, its really hard to try to make sense of a long string of words without proper punctuation. i'm not talking about being completely anal, just the odd comma and full stop for it to make sense. smile

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_FSA_


_FSA_

now comes with skydiving license
Location: In your head. (Tasmania, Austr...

Total posts: 1627
Posted:um sorry all you non-english-speaking-people.....ill try not to use the text speak in future....can i still use multiple full stops like this......and these !!! and these ???? or not??? ooops there i go again.....i can't help it i tell you. ha ha ha i did it, i didn't use lots of full stops.....oops again

Proudly owned by the very cute Pineapple Pete. Owner of Noddy. Joint owner of Mr Majestik.

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Rouge Dragon
BRONZE Member since Jul 2003

Rouge Dragon

Insert Champagne Here
Location: without class distinction

Total posts: 13215
Posted:it's scary when romanians use sms shorthand in their messages...combine sms writing with broken english...sometimes me and my friend have to conferr about what was trying to be said!

i would have changed ***** to phallus, and claire to petey Petey

Rougie: but that's what I'm doing here
Arnwyn: what letting me adjust myself in your room?..don't you dare quote that on HoP...

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lauz the caterpilla


lauz the caterpilla

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Location: nottingham - the land of oppor...

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Posted:just to make an addition some poeple actually think you spell words in the shorthand term as they know no better and are not able to spell. so if there is someone who uses shorthand find out first if they can actually spell or otherwise you might offend some people people who arent as intelligent as alot of us here

Shhhhhh! the boobies are trying to sleep.
owner and the property of noddy.
*i was a caterpilla last night wink* - libby_tuesday

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Valura
SILVER Member since Apr 2002

Valura

Mumma Hen
Location: Brisbane, Australia

Total posts: 6391
Posted:There is a spellcheck that people can check their posts with.

TAJ "boat mummy." VALURA "yes sweetie you went on a boat, was daddy there with you?" TAJ "no, but monkey on boat" VALURA "well then sweetie, Daddy WAS there with you"

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Birgit
BRONZE Member since Jan 2005

Birgit

had her carpal tunnel surgery already thanks v much
Location: Edinburgh

Total posts: 4145
Posted:Urmmmmm... opinions of English-as-a-second-language people?
What annoys me most about the whole text speak- and spelling-thing and lack of grammar is that people just don't seem to care about it. People who don't speak English as their first language have to learn every word and how it's spelled, and if I don't know how to spell something I usually look it up because I'm a bit self-conscious about making mistakes. And then you get all those English-speakers who just slaughter their language and don't even bother to click on "check spelling". It's a bit disencouraging sometimes wink Not meaning to slag off anyone who has spelling problems, that's what the spellcheck button is there for smile

As for translation services, I wouldn't rely on one even if a post was perfect for spelling and grammar. What they give you is usually quite far off the original meaning.


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polarity
SILVER Member since May 2005

polarity

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Posted:I think a lot of people's problems comes down to them not knowing their way round a keyboard, so it can be quicker for them to miss out capitalisation and punctuation.



To be honest a lot of it is down to English schools, which to be honest are f***ing pathetic when it comes to things like basic language skills, and computer use.



People who speak English as a second language seriously put us to shame in some cases, as they can have such a good grasp of syntax and grammar.



English is supposed to be easy to learn, but it has a such huge vocabulary that most people speaking it as a second language will always have problems with words they haven't heard before. Also it has so many local variations that it can be unintelligible between different locations, even if it is your first language.



Throw in things like abbreviations like don't, can't, I'll, etc., and acronyms like tbh, imho, iirc, and things get even harder to understand, even without all the problems that metaphors cause, as they are very specific to location and culture, and can't really be translated easily.



Being an aspie my English is supposed to be very well structured and lacking in metaphor. It's a social communication disorder, which makes starting and maintaining relationships next to impossible. The only times I've been in relationships has been with French and Japanese women, as it's actually easier for me to communicate with someone who's English has been taught. That and I consciously simplify my English and give several variations when I talk to someone who's speaking it as a second language. My French girlfriend said to me that I was the only person among my group of friends that she could understand.





The translation services can work reasonably well, but you have to convert the translated text back to your own language, to see if it's got the right translation. I used to spend hours running stuff through a Japanese translator, trying to get the right meaning accross.


You aren't thinking or really existing unless you're willing to risk even your own sanity in the judgment of your existence.

Green peppers, lime pickle and whole-grain mustard = best sandwich filling.

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Skulduggery
GOLD Member since Aug 2004

Skulduggery

Pirate Pixie Crew Captain
Location: Wales

Total posts: 8428
Posted:*bump*

Feed me Chocolate!!! Feed me NOW!

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Fine_Rabid_Dog


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Posted:*bumpitybump*

Seems txt chat/msn speak or whatnot is on the rise again...


The existance of flamethrowers says that someone, somewhere, at sometime said "I need to set that thing on fire, but it's too far away."

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simian


simian

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Location: London

Total posts: 3149
Posted:Written by: Birgit
Urmmmmm... opinions of English-as-a-second-language people?



so far the only one whose posted has said that he understands txtspk just as well as ordinary english.

for the record, i continue not to care about abbreviation\creative spelling.
My goat is still gotten far more by pedantry and issue-hunting.


"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."

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Valura
SILVER Member since Apr 2002

Valura

Mumma Hen
Location: Brisbane, Australia

Total posts: 6391
Posted:BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP



AND PLEASE DO A SEARCH TOO!


TAJ "boat mummy." VALURA "yes sweetie you went on a boat, was daddy there with you?" TAJ "no, but monkey on boat" VALURA "well then sweetie, Daddy WAS there with you"

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UCOF
SILVER Member since Apr 2002

UCOF

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Total posts: 15414
Posted:I think the age old problem of newbies not searching is going to keep happening.

New people will not know which threads there already are, and if they are like me when I started, will not search for a thread a) because they dont know just how many threads there already are and b) because they dont know how much it irritates the rest of us old people.

But getting worked up about it becuase someone doesnt know is just pointless.

shrug


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Valura
SILVER Member since Apr 2002

Valura

Mumma Hen
Location: Brisbane, Australia

Total posts: 6391
Posted:smirks and directs ucof to the *sorry I posted three threads the same thread*

what were you saying about getting worked up? ubblol tongue tongue tongue tongue


TAJ "boat mummy." VALURA "yes sweetie you went on a boat, was daddy there with you?" TAJ "no, but monkey on boat" VALURA "well then sweetie, Daddy WAS there with you"

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UCOF
SILVER Member since Apr 2002

UCOF

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Total posts: 15414
Posted:I thought that as soon as I posted it. ubblol
But theres a difference between getting worked up...
and getting irritated and staying silent ......
as I know it would do no good in the long run and newbies would still post duplicate threads....

tongue


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arsn


arsn

How do you change this thing???
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Posted:I just wanted to bump this theard as we are always continuing to have more and more hoppers joining. And to also have others made aware of the "Search feature" and some threads such as this and this that have been bought up so often, but alot of the new hoppers are unaware of. wink

Thanks. biggrin


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"You mean I'll have to use my brain?... but I use staff!!!" ~ ben-ja-men

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Mynci
BRONZE Member since Apr 2005

Mynci

Macaque of all trades
Location: wombling free...

Total posts: 8737
Posted:Any chance of making one of these a sticky topic..or would that not really help?

A couple of balls short of a full cascade... or maybe a few cards short of a deck... we'll see how this all fans out.

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