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ado-p
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Posted:*edit*

so i reckon this thread will hold a record of the new things and stuff im learning along the way, all input of any kind is welcome...

*edit*



*where was I? oh yeah here, The elbow, arm, arm elbow roll*



Its simple really, I cant do it.



I've seen some real nice clips of this move (Thankyou MCP/Glass) but I still seem to be missing somthing fundamental.



So I take the staff in my right hand, bring it accross my body under my extended left elbow and roll. extend left arm and let staff roll onto right arm. Bring staff back towards body on right arm



Now here is the problem, it just stops working there, I think i might be missing an extra beat/spin or something. Or it it could be the position of my wrist. Dont ask me what my wrist is doin, it goes all wonky in a natural reaction to the feeling of the staff falling off when i start bending my right arm on the way back in,



Any ideas?



If I can get this I'll move onto to trying to combine it with a shoulder rool and a turn to get it across my back and other shoulder.



I'm hoping to put up a clip soon, not of what i cant do but of what I can, after six months it's be cool to get some HOP feedback.


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Fear-Tine
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Posted:Mcp, any change of getting a vid like slack one and slack 2 for doubles cause it was a great help to me when I was learning single staff contact bounce2 bounce2

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mcp
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Posted:hmmmm, I've not been doing doubles long enough....

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mcp
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Posted:er... plus look here:

http://www.spherculism.com/poiple/module...gall&gid=27
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mikes ones are mostly doubles... but tim does some hardcore contact...


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Fear-Tine
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Posted:Thank you hug

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mcp
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Posted:why was there no irish people at the bjc? What was that about? Well there was, but he wasn't one of you lot... frown

"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

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ado-p
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Posted:whats the bjc? smile

who was he?


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mcp
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Posted:dunnoe, liam or ewan or somebody. Didn't know you lot. But is going to uberstaff... yay!

"the now legendary" - Kaskade
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I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

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ado-p
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Posted:Evan?

Was he into uber contact? He knows some of us. I missed him at the dublin juggling convention.

If its him. And i think it is.


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mcp
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Posted:I dunnoe, I just saw him do some nice doubles. I think it was evan, he said he knew faberge... anything else I can't remember, I was spinning so much and just generally playing in the sun...

"the now legendary" - Kaskade
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I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

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ado-p
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Posted:bwahaha

infintite ninja style infinite back of the neck spins. biggrin

colm from the circus showed me a tasty one handed behind the head contact thing

like the contact windmill that knoxious does but with one hand.. start the second half of an elbow wrist elbow. instead of going on to your elbow lift your hand behind your head and keep your hand bent back as much as possible. wait till you feel the stick roll a bit on your upside down hand and the turn your body 180. voila


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Posted:i think i've finally cracked the matrix

the bit which i was missing out was holding the staff sufficiently off-centre that you can continue to push it round an arm as you begin the move. it's possible to add loads of spin this way, since you're pushing against your arm as a fulcrum.


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Fear-Tine
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Posted:Im finally starting to get jesus's or jesi! not sure what the plural is. I managed 2 and a half last night before i fell on my ass. been tryin to get into a matrix from a neck pinch but its really tough, biggest problem is getting momentum into the staff. Any suggestions to help!

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ado-p
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Posted:Im gettin way better Jesii (search for a thread on plurii dec, all will be revealed) since i started using the wrist elbow entry. Gets the stick right in the center f my back where i need it.

Same goes for a pivot (snes tuen 180). the staff goes into the right place right away on the neck so when you turn for a chest roll the stick stays nice and close to your neck where you need it.

colm reckons he can kiss the staff mis jesus.


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strugz
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Posted:nice smile

anymore than one i have trouble with, halo jesus halo is my limit!

well that is until next weekend anyway ubbrollsmile


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Lavatwilight
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Posted:ok, things i learnt, front halo's and front side poviots, a lil scary with fire i must say, but yes.
jesii im getting cleaner, and neck wrap to front side halo is something new i found as well biggrin
its good to staff :P


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A) it does feel as good
B) it does not look as good on film

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Posted:poooo... All I ever practise anymore is poncy doubles moves and cheesy dancing with staff. I'd better get out tommorrow and practise proper staff contact... redface

"the now legendary" - Kaskade
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Lavatwilight
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Posted:oh the dancy stuff is fun as well!!!
got a gig soon, to help a friend out, with his music course, so i have to dance around lots.

some of the flow you can get, i hadnt relised, and things that are sooooo simple look damn cool with a tech :P


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strugz
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Posted:why not proper double staff contact wink

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ado-p
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Posted:can you expand on those tasty sounding moves lava?

how about front side halo (as opposed to a backside halo or [censored] halo) turn 180 to front side neck roll.

ooohh, cant wait to try that


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Lavatwilight
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Posted:tasty moves :P right so the front side halo i enter right shoulder, the same i way i would a normal halo.....but lean diffrently and it goes across the front :P the pivot thing, if its a piviot,....is just getting another spin, but that spin is usually on the front of the left shoulder, then it can be made to come back to a FSH (front side halo) and off down the right arm :P.

the neck thing to FSH goes on, on the left shoulder horotontal, wraps the neck, spins on the back, lean. and goes for FSH from the left shoulder biggrin there are many ways to do that, but the one above is my fave so far :P


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Kyle Mclean-
Contact without dance is like sex without wiggling.
A) it does feel as good
B) it does not look as good on film

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ado-p
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Posted:incedible

i've no idea what your talking about lava.

ubblol

the first one. does it halo on your back as you pivot back to another FSH. as in. is it FSH to Jesus?

the second one. you cant halo in the H plane spank well you can but i donthink you can call it a halo. or are you changing planes. can you break it down move by move? describe the path the stick travels on with out using all megs fancy names? coz im lost smile

I dont know why


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Lavatwilight
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Posted:i dotn halo in the H plane, i switch it with a lil bit of nifty neck work!!!
i have a DV cam at the mo, maybe i should film them a lil :P

nope its all done on the front so you have to move your head out the way quite a lot


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B) it does not look as good on film

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Posted:yeah, T&B does loads of frontside halos to throat wraps. I think they be a good way to get rid of face-smacking fears...

"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

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Posted:oooooo i like this....my mum has just got a mirrior in the front room, a nice bit one, at perfect height, and since i normally practice in the front room (i know i shouldnt but still) this is cool i can see what is going on

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B) it does not look as good on film

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ado-p
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Posted:oh please do mister twilight.

is T&B coming to uberstaff?

and whats wrong with spherculism?


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Posted:mmmm just tried those nice butterfly flowers..mmmmmm i cant wate till its dark now.

damn me not being at uberstaff :'(
this day is being good
i will go buy a tape later today then smile


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Kyle Mclean-
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A) it does feel as good
B) it does not look as good on film

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mcp
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Posted:all quiet on the western front...

I was practising stupidly poncy things as you know:

Double staff hug figure of eights... (butterfly, cos parallel looks weird.) Just the same as the poieristas do it.

and more pendulum weaves! This time, parallel two beat weaves... hmmmmm pendulum...


"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

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Lavatwilight
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Posted:any chance of being able to see pendular things any time soon?

mmmm just got (bout an hour ago) 5 beets out of foward dual fish,

a lil help needed...? any one?
righ ok, so going steve like, right hand, so it would wrap the frontside of you neck, but instead you duck and the staff goes on to the back, and down the other arm, i just cant make it clean yet, any ideas?


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Kyle Mclean-
Contact without dance is like sex without wiggling.
A) it does feel as good
B) it does not look as good on film

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mcp
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Posted:2 bags and orbit got some video of them...

Oh! And at the bjc I learned reverse fishtail, to hair brush to halo roll to pose.

SWEET!


"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

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Posted:is that, flicking hair to the side type hair bursh?

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A) it does feel as good
B) it does not look as good on film

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