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MillenniuM
PLATINUM Member since Jul 2003

MillenniuM

Hyperloops suck
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Posted:I did a search and didn't find anything on the subject. Can anyone do these successfully for multiple beats? How do you recommend getting out of them cleanly? I did one kind of by accident and have been trying to successfully replicate. I can do about 3 beats, but have no successful method of untangling.

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Dragon7
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Posted:Can you explain a little bit more plz Mil, Cause there are afew different types and im interested in what u actually mean before the subject turns into total confusion.

If u mean doing a b-fly loop and rotating it through your arms its kinda tricky.

If your talking about what i call "atomic" hyperloops then im down. Atomic is like a cross variation between b-fly and weave. It will bounce like b-fly but rotates both between the arms AND also rotates horozontally. eek looks totally amazing, and is pretty hard to teach because its not a single move. More like a move gone wrong.

Getting out of any hyperloop only takes pratice, im not one for analizing and trying to explain it because i personally believe it defiys explanation and physics :P If you just keep trying youll get it, and try not to think to much. Trying to understand a hyperloop only makes it harder...for me, i just do them and the understanding comes later...because if you try to describe/understand something you havnt yet mastered you often get the description/idea totally wrong and it lead's to more confusion.

All i can say is get your basic loops down and its all easy after that (so experment), because your body will become use to the different "feel" of each loop and un-tangling them will become natural.

Luck.


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Dom
BRONZE Member since Dec 2001

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Location: Bristol, UK

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Posted:First, I don't think it's a hyperloop in the proper definition of the move wink, you're talking about a butterfly airwrap in buzzsaw plane with multiple beats whilst wrapped.

Depending upon where and how you're airwrapping the wrap coefficient increases, so you have to unwrap more on the other side of the move. The thinner your poi chain the easier it is to get a higher wrap coefficient.


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Durbs
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Posted:*falls over*

Yes, but probably not


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coleman
SILVER Member since Aug 2002

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big and good and broken
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Posted:if you tangle between your arms you can do multiple beats 'outside' (on one side of your body or the other - not buzzsaw) without having extra untangle beats.

i think... umm

multiple beats in buzzsaw adds to the number of untangling beats like mr dom said.


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Dragon7
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Posted:Did hyp-buzzsaw get re-defined AGAIN! Cause last time i checked in, hypbuzz was infinite?!?

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coleman
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Posted:i have no idea - i do butterfly airwraps like this.

if you can tangle outside your arms then i guess the buzzsaw bit would be the twisty-but-not-tangle-up-any-more part of the hyperloop, like it is with cross-follow ones.

but like thom yorke, i might be wrong...
ubbrollsmile


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Rev
BRONZE Member since Mar 2003

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Posted:there's a butterfly knot.. which is what happens when I boucne through the buzzsaw... and would be the best image of what you describe millenium that I can think of.. hewre's a clip of itchell doing it.. the quality isnt' so clear I'd recommend dantanas vid... brb and I'll link it too..

itchell (right click save as)



dantanas thread (with vid clips)





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Dragon7
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Posted:Pretty sure Dan said his bandwith had maxed frown

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garthy
SILVER Member since Apr 2002

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Location: Bristol, England

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Posted:Here's one I think..

Garth and a possible butterfly hyperloop

It has a horizontal buzsaw motion in the middle.

If anyone has hosting for this it would be good and much appreciated, as its not a fast link to this machine.


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oli
SILVER Member since Jul 2003

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Posted:garthy and his insane butterfly tangles....... i still dont undertsand them after watching you do them all weekend ... grrr

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They push+pull tactics are driving me loco
They shouldn't do that no no no

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TheSilverShadow
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Posted:Yeah i think i saw some of those they looked real nice, i was talking to him for a bit if i remember he borrowed some poi, i think i met you as well oli only breifly did you have some pretty long red sock poi. may be not cant seem 2 remember much from this weekend
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oli
SILVER Member since Jul 2003

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Posted:that was me smile

Me train running low on soul coal
They push+pull tactics are driving me loco
They shouldn't do that no no no

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garthy
SILVER Member since Apr 2002

garthy

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Location: Bristol, England

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Posted:I did indeed borrow your poi and they were loverly.

Kinda cone poi things

Am currently making some and should have them done for falmouth II


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