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FirePoi-boy
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Location: Bantry, Ireland
Member Since: 22nd Sep 2001
Total posts: 71
Posted:I wanted to get an idea of how long some of the newer people to poi have been doing it and how they're progressing. I've been doing it for around 7 months and i still feel very green. So far i've gotten down:weave forwards and revwindmillcorkscrewfountainwavebtb weave forward and rev with transitions (barely and not on fire yet)and I've just broken my practice poi trying to get thread the needle.I just want to know how others are getting on.

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shizN0T
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Location: Stroudsburg, PA, USA
Member Since: 18th Jul 2001
Total posts: 184
Posted:weave forwards and revwindmillcorkscrewfountainwaveTTN 3 point TTNI dont think I will ever do BTB
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*adds 'I have been spinning about 9 months. but the cold has slowed me down ALOT*[This message has been edited by shizN0T (edited 26 February 2002).]


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Paddy
back from the dead...sort of
Location: 4341'N 7938'W
Member Since: 23rd Feb 2002
Total posts: 884
Posted:At 3 months, I have:weave f & bwavewindmillfountainalternate butterfly combinationlow and high turns and some transitionsI'd say I practice for half an hour to an hour per day.I've the same problem as you shizNOT...I first picked up the poi in december. This is the first winter I've ever really wanted to go away...
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Am I the only one who thinks the butterfly isn't so much of a beginner move as it's made out to be? Every time I think I have it, >smack<, the poi hit each other and then, most often, me. For those of you who have it down, how long did it take?I'm off to bash some poi now.
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Pele
Pele

the henna lady
Location: WNY, USA
Member Since: 15th Dec 2000
Total posts: 6193
Posted:just over 2 years and running and I still think I spin like shite on most days, mediocre on good days. Progression in moves is not how I like it and the winter just seems to thwart things.I still feel like a newbie on any given day.------------------Pele Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir...http://www.pyromorph.com[This message has been edited by Pele (edited 28 February 2002).]

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Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir
"Oooh look! A pub!" -exclaimed after recovering from a stupid fall
"And for the decadence of art, nothing beats a roaring fire." -TMK

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Demonthesys
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Location: Walnut Creek
Member Since: 19th Sep 2001
Total posts: 11
Posted:6 months and I can do pretty much everything on the HoP lessons page smoothly except for those damn btb stuff (which i cannot do at all
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)...o well...got good with transitions and i know a few good wraps...


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Pheelgood
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Location: London
Member Since: 8th Dec 2001
Total posts: 30
Posted:weave, fwd & reversemaybe a five beat weave, but i don't really get all this beat stuff yet, so might only be three - who knows?That kind of up and down one where they're spinning like pizzas round your head. all kinds of that one.Butterfly, mexican wave (where it stays over your shoulder?)I've kind of got to a stage where i pretty much know which of the moves that i can do can lead into another of the moves that i can do, and i can change direction by turning round, all without hitting myself in head. unless i get really excited!i can pretend i'm skipping rope like Rocky, but i gues that's not really a move...I just learned how to remove facial hair by 'aspirating', and i'm really keen to have a go at behind the back weaving - but i have to get my practice poi back off John first.Okay, so i can't really play the name game, but after five months and a winter in Egham; i feel like i'm having fun. yay!

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The Welcome Matt
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Location: Manchester NH USA
Member Since: 27th Nov 2001
Total posts: 193
Posted:I have been spinning since like November. I haven't tried fire yet, but I have a pair of Beaming poi and Buzz poi.I can do everthing on the lessons page except for the BTB weave, 5 beat weave, and the multi-beat corkscrew. I can do a bunch of my own little combos and transitions, but thats it. I am with ShizNOT. I don't think I will ever get the BTB weave. The butterfly is easy, but my hands just don't want to cooperate
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MattPS- ShizNOT.. what is that 3 point TTN you mentioned? ------------------I dreamt that I ate a 10 pound marshmellow and then when I woke up, my pillow was gone![This message has been edited by The Welcome Matt (edited 26 February 2002).]


I dreamt that I ate a 10 pound marshmellow and then when I woke up, my pillow was gone!

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digital milk
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Location: Pennsylvania, USA
Member Since: 24th Nov 2001
Total posts: 37
Posted:well.. ive been going at it since halloween..and ive learned:-all the butterfly stuff..-the weave, forward+backward-all of the turns (on this site atleast)-ttn-something weird i came up with?-and a helicopter type of moveand im 100% anti-btb..1/4 of the time i hit myself attempting these
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hehei still have yet to try fire..


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Knagi
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Location: Brunswick, Ohio
Member Since: 28th Jun 2001
Total posts: 397
Posted:I've been spinning for almost a year... I can let my mind go and let the poi do what they wish without hitting myself
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------------------We are all in the cosmic movie. That means the day you die you watch your whole life repeating for eternity. So you'd better have some good things happen in there and have a fitting climax. --Jim MorrisonMost Memerable crowd saying "Hey look that dude's gonna set himself on fire again!"


We are all in the cosmic movie. That means the day you die you watch your whole life repeating for eternity. So you'd better have some good things happen in there and have a fitting climax. --Jim MorrisonIt's going to come from a direction you didn't predict at a moment of chaos which you didn't see coming. -- NYC

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TheBovrilMonkey
TheBovrilMonkey

Liquid Cow
Location: High Wycombe, England
Member Since: 3rd Sep 2001
Total posts: 2629
Posted:I've been spinning since the end of August/beginning of September last year.I can do:The Weave - 5 beats forwards, 3 beats backwards with a few turnsThe butterfly - Giant, Alternate, Overhead and One handedThe low waveHigh, Low and Tuck turnsThe corkscrewand a couple of wraps and transistions.I found that I would practise loads as soon as I got my poi during the summer, but when it started getting really cold, I didn't practise as much because my parents wouldn't let me practise in the house.Now, just as it's starting to get warmer, I've broken my wrist.Oh well, looks like I'll be starting almost from scratch when my cast comes off. It's going to be hard to not just jump in and try to get back to where I was as fast as possible, but I'll probably mangle my wrist even more if I do that.------------------Bovril - It's liquid cow y'know

But there's no sense crying over every mistake. You just keep on trying till you run out of cake.

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Durbs
Durbs

Classically British
Location: Epsom, Surrey, England
Member Since: 23rd Sep 2001
Total posts: 5688
Posted:ummmmmm, not sure if I'm a newbie anymore... I've been twirling for about 5 months (?) and so far can do all the moves from the Art of Poi video and all on this site except for reverse 5bt weave and 3 point TTN (Which I just don't get)I seem have stopped learning moves now though as I've started learning contact juggling... Still twirl most days though.

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_Stix_
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Location: la-la land
Member Since: 15th Feb 2002
Total posts: 2419
Posted:Hi...Don't really know the names of the moves I do but I can spin fire until they go out without doing the same moves..I know I can do a BTB butterfly..just.. working on more BTB moves at the..hopefully should be meeting up with another spinner in my town and he may be able to tell me what the moves are called and hopefully teach me a few more tricks..but no matter what stage you are at - as long as you enjoy it and keep going.. no worries!Kind regardsRedDragon.

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phartbreath
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Location: Willmar MN USA
Member Since: 13th Feb 2002
Total posts: 13
Posted:well.. made my first set off tennis ball poi just after x-mass..since then i've learn all the in front stuff on this websight ( 'cept for 5 beat weave, which i nead to learn to keep my hand closser together in order to make it : accually did do 5 beats on my left side once, but when i went to the right side i got all tangled up...keep on working on that )also.. just this night i was pulling off 3 beat cork-screws (??)and getting some btb butterflies.. woo woophart

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MrConfused
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Location: I wish I knew
Member Since: 12th Jan 2002
Total posts: 529
Posted:I've been twirling for about 8 months, and can do:butterflyreverse b/foverhead b/falternate b/fmexican wavehorizontal b/fhorizontal mexican wavelow wavereverse low wavereverse mexican wavereverse overhead b/freverse (but not forwards) btb b/f1 handed b/f (but not consistently)(mix & match combinations of these)Weave (3 & 5 beat)Reverse weave (3 & (as of yesterday)5 beat)windmill (normal & quad)reverse windmill (normal & quad)sort of low windmill thing (windmill at hip level)chasing the sun (forward & reverse)btb weave (forward and reverse)buzzsaw(can move fairly smoothly between most of these)Few basic wraps, transitions and turns.

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Blackfire
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Location: Stuttgart, Germany
Member Since: 23rd Nov 2001
Total posts: 15
Posted:I spin for 6 month now. In this time I got:-all the butterfly stuff (expect the alternate)-3 beat weave forward + reverse-5 beat weave forward-BTB weave reverse-windmill-corkscrew-fountainBut I can't do any transistion
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and in winter it was too cold to practice often.------------------Blackfire


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shizN0T
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Location: Stroudsburg, PA, USA
Member Since: 18th Jul 2001
Total posts: 184
Posted:well... as we all know, its tricky to name moves. MY understanding of the 3 point TTN is...Its like doing a weave, but doing TTN. the poi move from left to front to right in a TTN. picture a weave with the poi going opposite direction

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clairebear
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Location: jersey - Little rock, not quit...
Member Since: 15th Nov 2001
Total posts: 52
Posted:I think I need to practice more (well I knew that anyways, but you guys have just given me a well deserved kick in the behind to get moving again
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)I've been spinning for about 3 years now and can do most of the moves on the lesson site but my main problem is turns. I just can't wrap my head round them (mainly end up wrapping poi round my head!!!
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)lonely playing on your own in the rain though
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I'm determined to sort it before summer though!This is one bear that'll not be beaten, besides I have to come out of hibernation at somepoint.Big love n light,


Be Cautious of who you sniff, they could be an EnemyBig love and fluffy rainbow light in bundles. Bear xxx xxx xxx

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clairebear
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Location: jersey - Little rock, not quit...
Member Since: 15th Nov 2001
Total posts: 52
Posted:shizn0t,I'm on Jersey in the channel islands, a little 5 by 9 island in the english channel, just north of St Malo in France.(sorry, I can't reply to emails from work, they don't like us comunicating with the outside world
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Be Cautious of who you sniff, they could be an EnemyBig love and fluffy rainbow light in bundles. Bear xxx xxx xxx

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MrConfused
MrConfused

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Location: I wish I knew
Member Since: 12th Jan 2002
Total posts: 529
Posted:Forgot to mention: TTN and 3 point TTN thing (although I don't really do it as TTN, just pass the butterfly across my body)Corkscrew (normal & quad)Reverse corkscrew (normal & quad)Crossovers (forward and reverse)and a few others that don't really have names, and I'm a bit shit at describing them.

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Posted:At the end of last year my (then) Girlfriend introduced me to the fantastic world of fire performance, after a very messy breakup from my point of view, I didn't want to do anything that reminded me of her.Then at the beginning of this year I thought sod it I'll give it a go, so I made my own poi and staff, and have been at it since.I was a bit stupid in that I only knew how to make fire poi, and have burned myself a LOT while in the early stages.Now I can do:Butterfly- all but the BTBWeave- 3beat f/r 5 beat fCorkscrew-f/b, vertical corkscrew fmexican wave f/bturning weavestuck turn/low turnI'm working on a move where you do a couple of beats over head, then jump over the crossing poi, (like a corkscrew)Also I can't do anything BTB, I keep hitting myself in the back of the head!

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M@TT
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Location: Pensacola, FL, USA
Member Since: 24th Feb 2002
Total posts: 34
Posted:I've been spinning almost 2 months.weaves forward and reverse w/ turns4 beat weaves forwardbutterfly forward and reversethread the needle (today)mexican wave high and lowone-handed butterflyoverhead butterflychasing the sunwindmilltuck turn and reverse tuck turnleg wrapshigh and low turnscorkscrewI think that's about it. Give me another week and I'll add more to it
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jonathan
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Location: new zealand
Member Since: 24th Nov 2001
Total posts: 210
Posted:ive been spinning for 6 years now and i probably would be surprised at how many moves you guys can do that i havent even thought of....i just wanted to say that there is a difference between being able to do a move and the move being more reflex like...... the longer u guys keep on with it the better your skills will be, i found that at around 4 years i sort of plateaued a bit and had a wee break until i found out why i wanted to keep on poiingso i reckon that we should practise hard, but not burn out too quickly (remember raver and his 5 hours a day for years rant) its good to learn heaps of moves quickly, but thats not hard to do (imho). everyone learns real fast for the first few years, its how we refine the technique and get comfortable with them that counts in the longer term
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Whiffle Squeek
Whiffle Squeek

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Location: Hartford, CT USA
Member Since: 29th Oct 2001
Total posts: 416
Posted:1 yearmoves done well...3 beat weave, f&r, and turns, both ways, and fountains, both wayswraps from weaves into butterflys, and from butterflys into weavesforward 5 beatquad corkscrew/windmillBTB 3 beat weave f&r with turnsBTB butterflysbutterfly wraps (see signature move topic)regualr butterflys, f&rforward TTNAlterante side to side butterfly transfer=(that thing pozee does)horizontal butterfly, f&rcorkscrew wraps into horizontal butterflyrigth handed one handed butterflyburn the nose(butterfly insideof arms?)buzzsaw (same direction on inside of arms?)and most of those flow pretty well into each other, so ive got decent transitions as well..

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Itsgottab
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Location: NZ
Member Since: 7th Nov 2001
Total posts: 244
Posted:i'm coming on 2 years now and i reckon and have for awhile that its all about transitions from one move to the next.once you've got the weave thats sweet you've got it forever, but going form the weave to butterfly in different ways is the tricky bit. wraps, turns, mixing hands and stopping comets mid spin(its difficult to explain) are the transition types i use, they come in families i think, depending on individual style and mood.some moves like the five beat weave are technequically difficult but so far haven't, for me sporned many other formations or transitions. variations on the similar formations and transitions produce large and interesting families.

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DocLiquid
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Location: Naples, Florida
Member Since: 2nd Nov 2001
Total posts: 97
Posted:Well I've been spinning for about 6 months now and I can do EVERYTHING on the lessons page both forward and backward(seriously). I can also do every wrap on the 56+ wrap list as well as MANY of my own wrap combinations(see the Signature Moves thread on Poi Moves) and I have developed several different styles of dance, granted I've spent nearly every waking hour on practice, but hey, there are worse things to be doing in life now aren't there. I can do some wicked BTB wraps as well as color changing wrap/slides with glowsticks. Anyway, you guys all keep up the good work.PLUHRDOC------------------Let us Light up the Night

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Kinudin (Soul Fyre)
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Location: San Diego, California, USA
Member Since: 21st Dec 2001
Total posts: 1325
Posted:5 and a half months and so far I can do:Weave (Fowards, backwards) 3 beat backwards 5 beat fowardsButterfly (Fowards, backwards) Alternate GiantCorkscrew Reverse Mexican WeaveWindmill Giant (only when the poi are going to the left, can't get it when going to the right for some reason!)Fountain Reverse weave on the right side, windmill in the middle going into giant windmill, then moving into the foward weave on the left side.And the one I'm most proud of!! Not getting crotch shots frequently!
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