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FlameChild
SILVER Member since Jun 2002

FlameChild

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Posted:Saturday the 23 of november, I'm going to have a show at Metropolis, a giant rave-event here in Norway. More info @ www.metropolis.as


The crowd is going to be between 6-8000 people...
And I'm really nervous!!
I have done a show in front of 600 people and that was not a problem, but I feel that this is something else..


I need some tips on how to prepare my-self,
how to act on the stage,
and what in the world should I charge??
My act will only consist of fire-poi, and it will last around 7-8 minutes.
Because of the size of the arrangement, I'm considering to charge around 90 US dollars...
Anyone who think diffrent?

This show will help me spreading the art of fire-spinning here in Norway.
I'm also considering starting a poi-school in my home-town.. Maybe building a little poi-community...


-= I am the god of Hell-fire =-
-= And I bring you......fire =-

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FoxFire


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Posted:Picture all of them in their underwear! However, that may be undesirable in certain cases.

Deuteronomy 31:6
John 15:9
Luke 6:22

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DJ Dantana
BRONZE Member since Aug 2001

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Location: Stillwater, Ok. USA

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Posted:very carefully!!!

no realy man, it's all good! I am sure you will do fine. Just focus on the fire, ignore the audience till the flames are out. then give a big bow. they will love it!

[ 15. November 2002, 10:57: Message edited by: santanatwo ]


we eat and we drink and we smoke and we try!

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flash fire
BRONZE Member since Jan 2001

flash fire

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Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia

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Posted:Congratulations! That's a fantastic opportunity

I really think there's no difference between performing for 600 or 6000... Regardless of how many people are watching, I have no doubt that you always do the very best you possibly can!

All you can do is give it 100%, you know.

You may find a larger audience less terrifying actually - I know I do! It's more of a rush than anything; so the unadulterated bliss of having a large audience certainly outweighs any nerves or fear.

My advice to you: LOTS of energy; love what you do and make sure the people watching you see that you love what you do. It's infectious.

Pricing - I really can't give you advice there. There are some great threads around though:
This one talks about underbidding

And Pele gives a great breakdown of costs here

break a leg, and please let us know how you go


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Maximus


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Location: Upland, CA., USA

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Posted:Hey, that's great! Fire in Norway...Viking funerals!
Having performed before even bigger crowds at Burning Man, I'd say the secret was picturing them all naked. Wait a second, they were all naked!
Seriously, I recommend not ignoring the crowd: make eye contact, shout and yell to them, get them to cheer and be part of the show, walk up to different parts of the stage and work the crowd. You are giving them a gift. Be proud, self confident, and show it. Take up all the room you have. Get some cheap pyrotechnics like smoke pots and have a Wizard of Oz like entrance. And have a kick-ass routine prepared with a beginning, a middle and a climax. Work with a choreographer if you have to, Don't just walk out there, ignoring the audience and freeform spinning until your Poi go out.

The money seems right.

Maximus


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DJ Dantana
BRONZE Member since Aug 2001

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Location: Stillwater, Ok. USA

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Posted:whatever floats your boat man. I don't think I could ever remember a correographed routine...but if you can, "more power to you". I sugested ignoring the crowd for two reasons.

#1 if it makes you nervouse???

#2 the crowd isn't going to burn you!!!

I can see how playing the crowd can come in handy, just don't do it if it's going to mess you up.


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Dom
BRONZE Member since Dec 2001

Dom

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Location: Bristol, UK

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Posted:A bigger crowd is less personal, it's a mass you're performing for, not a group of individuals. The trick, which has been stated, is to make them think it's personal.

Good luck!!


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adren@line


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Location: Hobart, Tasmania, Australia

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Posted:theres a great article about stage fright (not that youll have it) in the thread i started called "overcoming fears, help needed" i dont know how to do a nice link thing so youll either have to find it or wait for someone to do it for me...

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Richee
BRONZE Member since Jan 2002

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Location: Prague, Czech. Republic

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Posted:Listen the fire,listen the music and do what you love as you love it

Poi THEO(R)IST

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Cantus
SILVER Member since Jul 2001

Cantus

Tantamount to fatuity
Location: Down the road, United Kingdom

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Posted:That'll be a cue for me to do something then will it adren@line?

Ok adren@line's fears thread


"I'll carry this....It's harder to spill a hat" - Chellybean
"...like a rabbit caught in a lighthouse?" - Chellybean

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Celeste


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Posted:Don't worry! You do great...when you're preforming you won't be able to tell that there are 600- or 6000.
As far as money goes, for such a large event I think you may be leaning a little towards the "not enough" side. Are you having to travel to this gig? If yes, they should cover it. Are you going to have to arrange for a place to stay? If so, they should cover it. What about meals while you are in town? Are they giving you a dressing room/area? etc etc.
I have learned from experence that these kinds of productions take s**t loads of money to successfully pull off, so remember that these people most likely have a budget of more than $90. Don't let them take advantage of you or your talent...


Life is serious, but art is fun!

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FlameChild
SILVER Member since Jun 2002

FlameChild

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Location: Norway (Way way up North, on t...

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Posted:Thanks everyone...
I know that I would get the support & answers I needed here @ Home Of Poi.

I think that you folks are correct in the fact that I probably will disappear into my state of mind as soon as I light those wicks.
I have experienced it before, and since I'm not suffering of Ochlophobia - "An Irrational Fear of Crowds or Mobs." , I think I will do just fine...

It is actually a week to day... And I'm counting the hours. Not because I'm nervous (not anymore ), but because I looking forward to it...

BTW, I'm working on a norwegian poi-site (the only one as far as I know). The adress is "www.firepoi.tk". It ain't finished, though. But I have a few nice photos in the gallery section. Would be extremely cool, if some of you guys could drop a line or two in the guestbook.
The norwegian word for guestbook is Gjestebok.

Love you all folks!
"Feel The Fire Buuuuurn"


-= I am the god of Hell-fire =-
-= And I bring you......fire =-

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Cantus
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Cantus

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Posted:And a clickable link for that site would

www.firepoi.tk

[ 18. November 2002, 05:14: Message edited by: C@ntus ]


"I'll carry this....It's harder to spill a hat" - Chellybean
"...like a rabbit caught in a lighthouse?" - Chellybean

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Jade Lynx


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Posted:Well, it looks like the gjestebok page isn't up yet, but that site looks really nice, Star-Spinner.

The fact that i only understood about 10 words was not a barrier...

Congratulations, and mangitakk for showing Norway what Firepoi is about...


We got the MikeZ in the house, woot!Glue the ham, hat baby!

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FlameChild
SILVER Member since Jun 2002

FlameChild

Pyromantic
Location: Norway (Way way up North, on t...

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Posted:Oh... Sorry 'bout the link...
I have fixed the guest-book now.
So now you can write a small novel if you like (not that you should, but you could, if you would).

I'm impressed over the norwegian-knowledge here. "Viking funerals" and "mangitakk"...
"Mange takk" is the norwegian phrase of "thank you very much"...

I'm going to put a video of my-self performing on my site very soon...

To days left to Metropolis 2002... My biggest spinning gig so far... Whi!


-= I am the god of Hell-fire =-
-= And I bring you......fire =-

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fluffy napalm fairy


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Posted:Good luck - and you'd better let us all know how it goes.....

Geologists do it in the dirt................ spank

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flid
BRONZE Member since Aug 2002

flid

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Location: Warwickshire, United Kingdom

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Posted:hope it went well. For what its worth I did my first public performance tonight too, infront of about 500 people.

I haven't had as much fun in ages, i just completely forgot they were there and got on with it


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FireMikeZ


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Location: Laguna, California, US

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Posted:flid, congratulations! knew you were going to be ready tout suite! oh, flid, ya got pix of that one?

Star-spinner!

i'm going to greatly enjoy looking at your site in a day or two. and i'll be posting something there, say in your guestbook, to show you on performing which you may find useful even after, in fact especially right after this gig of yours.

congratulations on the kind of gig we all love the most. US$90 sounds good.

i saw this too late to be of any potential help beforehand; here's my afta-party wish it was a blast, along with flid. how did it go?


molten cheers,

~ FireMike

FireMikeZ@yahoo.com (personal messages welcome, no promo spam, please!)
Laguna, California, US

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FlameChild
SILVER Member since Jun 2002

FlameChild

Pyromantic
Location: Norway (Way way up North, on t...

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Posted:Sorry about the late respons!

My show @ Metropolis went terrific!!
It was the biggest rush of my short life...
Me, myself on a stage in front of 5000 raving people, two fire-breathers on each side which breathes huge jets of fire, and in the middle, little me spinning fire like I never spun before..
It was exhilirating!!

Have posted some pic's in my gallery @
Please leave a message in the guestbook!
Have a couple of video-shots of me, which I'm going to edit...

Thanks for the support, folks!
You are the best!
- Starspinner (aka FlameChild @ stage)


-= I am the god of Hell-fire =-
-= And I bring you......fire =-

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FlameChild
SILVER Member since Jun 2002

FlameChild

Pyromantic
Location: Norway (Way way up North, on t...

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Posted:Shit...
Sort of like weird URL there...
Can some hot-shot tell me how to make link work?

www.home.no/firepoi/gallery.htm


-= I am the god of Hell-fire =-
-= And I bring you......fire =-

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FlameChild
SILVER Member since Jun 2002

FlameChild

Pyromantic
Location: Norway (Way way up North, on t...

Total posts: 136
Posted:Never mind...

-= I am the god of Hell-fire =-
-= And I bring you......fire =-

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fluffy napalm fairy


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Location: Brum / Dorset / Fairy Land

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Posted:Wow!

those pictures are amazing! I'm so glad you had a good time and really enjoyed it. I bet you're wondering what on earth you were worrying about before it all...lol.

Well don
x


Geologists do it in the dirt................ spank

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SpitFire
GOLD Member since Dec 2002

Mand's Girl....and The Not So Shy One
Location: Calgary, Alberta Canada

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Posted:Nice Pics, Star-spinner!

Sounds like the show was a success!

Keep having fun!


Solitude sometimes speaks to you, and you should listen.

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Maximus


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Location: Upland, CA., USA

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Posted:Good on you, brother in fire!

Precisely one week later halfway around the world in Mexico, Moongirl and I were spinning flanked by firebreathers from our sister group Saturnalia.
The crowd was smaller and the music couldn't have been worse (the Cure and Guns and Roses), but we had a great time, too.

Great pix. You are truly a pioneer!

Maximus


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FlameChild
SILVER Member since Jun 2002

FlameChild

Pyromantic
Location: Norway (Way way up North, on t...

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Posted:Now I have implemented "multi-language" support in my website... Sound nice?
Well, I just translated my page into english, so that you folks would be able to understand what's on it.
I have also bought my-self a domain: " www.firepoi.net " Pretty funky, eh?

Thx for the guestbook-message, Jade Lynx.
Appreciate it. "Mange takk"...

I have now realized that there are several thousand "poi-shops" around the world... I just never thought of it before... Pet-shops! They sell dog-leashes, swivels, and everything you need to make poi-chains! Both string and chains. And they are all designed to have a 20 kg pulling dog at the end of it, so they don't break easily...


-= I am the god of Hell-fire =-
-= And I bring you......fire =-

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Doc Lightning
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Doc Lightning

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Location: San Francisco, CA, USA

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Posted:Nice page! So...uh...who is that really cute girl you're with at the bottom of your gallery?

See, this is what I love about Norway. The Norwegians are such beautiful people. Their language sounds completely wacko, but the people are beautiful!


-Mike )'(
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"A buckuht 'n a hooze!" -Valura

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K_Dash
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K_Dash

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Posted:HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!

[color:red] Knee Assault !!!!!!!!!!!!! [/color]

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FlameChild
SILVER Member since Jun 2002

FlameChild

Pyromantic
Location: Norway (Way way up North, on t...

Total posts: 136
Posted:Hello, folks!
Now I have posted some video's on my site.
Also check out the news section: I'm going
to start teaching poi!!
-Henning


-= I am the god of Hell-fire =-
-= And I bring you......fire =-

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