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Billiiomember
3 posts
Location: Paris


Posted:
i would like to know the best staff size to perform double staff

simiansimian110% MONKEY EVERY TIME ALL THE TIME JUST CANT STOP THE MONKEY
3,149 posts
Location: London


Posted:
anywhere inbetween 2 to 6 foot depending on your height, arm length and personal taste.

short ones (around 3 foot) let you go inside your arms to do buzzsaw type moves, and make it easy to bounce about crazily swooshing them in every direction.

long ones (around 5 foot) mean you can do contact stuff easier, and they stay in their planes more. But they do hit each other more when you try complicated stuff. They're more martial arty and blokey than short ones.

My personal favourite length was 5 foot, but they kept on whacking into each other, so now i play with 4 foot ones which are not too short and not too long but just right.

"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."


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Posted:
Agreed

This is a post by tom, all spelling is deleberate
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Bender_the_OffenderBender_the_OffenderGOLD Member
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Posted:
:points at simian:
what the ape precisely said!
:waves a banana at 'im:

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Billiiomember
3 posts
Location: Paris


Posted:
je suis francais so i don't understand all this feet
you don't know how long it would be in meter

colemancolemanSILVER Member
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Posted:
3ft ~ 1m

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Billiiomember
3 posts
Location: Paris


Posted:
thanks you

Psiboing
529 posts
Location: Body in Seattle - soul still in bristol :)


Posted:
I would say if you're starting doubles use shorter
ones (1m) first, cos will cause less pain and you won't be tired as quickly so can practice for longer before arms fall off ;-) (or maybe I just was weakling when i started ..? )

Later when you got all the coordination down & smooth, then move on to longer ones, if you want/find them more interesting. On the whole I think longer ones give you more possibilities (anyone agree here ?) and look more impressive but thats a matter of taste ... have fun & don't get frustrated - it's worth it ;-)

mike :-)

CharlesCharlesBRONZE Member
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Location: Auckland, New Zealand


Posted:
I'd be hesistant to say shorter are better to learn with, because there are huge differences between the shorter and longer staff techniques.

What I would suggest is using the length you prefer for normal staffs, but also to have some shorter ones two, and use them as often as each other.

That way you get the bost of best worlds!

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gretelmember
47 posts
Location: sydney, australia


Posted:
hey im glad someone esle posted this qn casue i was just about to ask the same thing myself...
i have a 4 foot staff and 4 a foot broom handle (ok itll be a staff sooner or later but i got to learn on something )
they seem to work pretty well together but i want even shorter ones... is that bad? if they were smaller would i need smaller wicks cause even if a fot staff the flames can easily creep up to my finegrs

falloutboyfalloutboySILVER Member
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433 posts
Location: Melbourne, Australia, Earth, Milky Way, Universe


Posted:
What about a staff that changes length when spun! that would end the whole debate!!
"How long is your staff"
"The length of my staff varies as a function of time, angular velocity, moment of inertia, and how excited i am"
"dude, your a geek"

Ahem.

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i was riding through melbourne on a midget giraffe, things were peachy.


Bender_the_OffenderBender_the_OffenderGOLD Member
still can't believe it's not butter
6,978 posts
Location: Melbourne, Australia


Posted:
it's okay to be a geek - star wars rocks!!

and don't be afraid about short doubles - some pro performers around melbourne use really short staves (90cm) and really short poi (buzzsaw length) just use smaller wicks (eg 2" or less)

whhen considering what length your toy should be, be more mindful of your twirling possibilities than of the metric system. it is the former that matters more!!

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dwuanosmember
79 posts
Location: Freo


Posted:
90cm's long x 12mm's diameter & 1 meter of wick to each end. Thats what I use. As for the perfect diamentions for a staff it goes into some pretty serious quantum physics, so if the cats dead use small stix, alive use big stix, if you don't have a cat I would recomend 1 large stick with 1 small stick and if you accedently run over a cat on the way to the juggling store swich to poi.

MrConfusedMrConfusedBRONZE Member
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529 posts
Location: I wish I knew, United Kingdom


Posted:
Mine are a bit too short at 2'6" (ish). I've only got 2" wicking on the ends, but I can't hold them still without burning my fingers.

J

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Bender_the_OffenderBender_the_OffenderGOLD Member
still can't believe it's not butter
6,978 posts
Location: Melbourne, Australia


Posted:
lol dwuanos,
you'd need a telescopic staff if the cat were to be alive and dead at the same time!
maybe it's time for poi...

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bluecatbluecatgeek, level 1
5,300 posts
Location: everywhere


Posted:
have two pairs... a long pair for big stuff and contact doubles... a short pair for tiny fast inside stuff


i myself now own some short doubles....

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BamBamBamBamPooh-Bah
1,810 posts
Location: London


Posted:
Mr Cat has short doubles my word....(good boy).

I own both short doubles and long doubles, and love them both in very different ways.

Why don't you have a go at making both?

happy twiddling

Bammy

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Posted:

This is a post by tom, all spelling is deleberate
-><- Kallisti


AdeSILVER Member
Are we there yet?
1,897 posts
Location: australia


Posted:
personally I prefer shorter staves that have room to go under and inside your arms - for weaves, buzzsaw type things and general swishing around

the burning fingers is an issue - but only if you hold them still in one spot too long

CharlesCharlesBRONZE Member
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Location: Auckland, New Zealand


Posted:
Yeahm but I burn myself a LOT more with short staves than longer staves.

but then again, that might be just me

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bluecatbluecatgeek, level 1
5,300 posts
Location: everywhere


Posted:
knew that one would shock you.

since owning short doubles i have played doubles: 18 times. ihave played long doubles 17 times.(only 1 wee spin)


sorry but i JUST CANT COPE WITH THESE RIDICULOUS MINIATURE THINGS
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BamBamBamBamPooh-Bah
1,810 posts
Location: London


Posted:
Hey don't diss things that are small

RIDICULOUS MINIATURE

Does that make me one of them

Bammy

A kiss blown is a kiss wasted, the only kind of kiss is a kiss tasted.

I'm a woman. We don't say what we want, but we reserve the right to be pissed off if we don't get it. That's what makes us so fascinating and not just a LITTLE bit scary.


bluecatbluecatgeek, level 1
5,300 posts
Location: everywhere


Posted:
not at all....
cute and petite i think.

unlike small boy.


who's just cute
R

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Tempestaddict
522 posts
Location: Sheffield


Posted:
OK, I for one have had enough with your condescending nature towards all things spinny and shorter than 4 foot.

Even you mr Bluecat agree that they have qualities that make them worth while such as fast insidey stuff, so shut the fudge up about your big staffs dude, your getting very predictable indeed.

Just because you can't or don't use them dosen't mean they are not great or is that what you are saying?

BamBamBamBamPooh-Bah
1,810 posts
Location: London


Posted:
well said TEMPEST.
Good to see someone else sticking up for small sticks

Bammy

A kiss blown is a kiss wasted, the only kind of kiss is a kiss tasted.

I'm a woman. We don't say what we want, but we reserve the right to be pissed off if we don't get it. That's what makes us so fascinating and not just a LITTLE bit scary.


dwuanosmember
79 posts
Location: Freo


Posted:
small & skinny I say, but you've let the cat out of the box!

colemancolemanSILVER Member
big and good and broken
7,330 posts
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay, United Kingdom


Posted:
i have to say that i like watching someone playing with those 'double-ended matches'.

see with poi you can change the length whenever you want, even mid spin which surely makes them loads better...



but simian - who the hell does 6 foot doubles man. that's some crazyness right there.

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i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
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Bender_the_OffenderBender_the_OffenderGOLD Member
still can't believe it's not butter
6,978 posts
Location: Melbourne, Australia


Posted:
i lOOOVE the matchsticks term - gunna swipe it if ya dun mind!!
i think of my staves as medium - just got myeslf a juicy 1m doubles - i consider them medium cus they're the largest stix that i can do hi speed btl spinning and poi 'buzzsaw' movements with.
i consider my 1.2 to be my larger stix.

and please, don't use feet and inches cus i get a headache whenever i have to pull out my (grotesquely awful) brit accent.

guv'nor.

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Tempestaddict
522 posts
Location: Sheffield


Posted:
Cole -

I can change the length of my staffs too..


... just grab them at the end or neer if your on fire

I suppose its not the lenght that changes but the circles do just like poi

bluecatbluecatgeek, level 1
5,300 posts
Location: everywhere


Posted:
quote:
Originally posted by TEMPEST:
OK, I for one have had enough with your condescending nature towards all things spinny and shorter than 4 foot.

Even you mr Bluecat agree that they have qualities that make them worth while such as fast insidey stuff, so shut the fudge up about your big staffs dude, your getting very predictable indeed.

Just because you can't or don't use them dosen't mean they are not great or is that what you are saying?

ok matchstick boy.

have it your way.


no more abuse of short sticks.


but you're crap at using them.
and that dmitri guy. him too.
and dave...erm hang on. (i lie)
and bam(actually she's pretty good(but shaping up to be better with long sticks))
smallboys ace(cause hes worked it out)


eerm. i think my main gripe with them i s that if you aren't good then your planes are all over the place cause they're so light.


so stop bitching.
bitch
R

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simiansimian110% MONKEY EVERY TIME ALL THE TIME JUST CANT STOP THE MONKEY
3,149 posts
Location: London


Posted:
six foot doubles aren't that much crazier than 5 foot ones Mr Column

Its still only three foot on each side of each hand. A bit stretchy maybe, but pretty cool

But four foot broomsticks are the nicest doubles in the world.

"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."


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