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Raphael96
SILVER Member since Sep 2002

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Location: New York City

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Posted:What aspects of fire staff construction are important to look for when buying one?

There seem to be quite a few different designs and I'd like to make the right choice.

Having a staff that breaks down into parts for travelling makes alot of sense to me.

Any ideas?

Thanks!

Raphael


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Salinger


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Location: Southampton

Total posts: 382
Posted:Hi Raphael,

This thread here from the staff forum

(http://www.homeofpoi.com/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=000143 [if this link doesn't work it's the bottom thread on the staff forum])

is a good link into all good threads on making staffs. It also gives pointers on what to look for in choosing your staff; length is important, as is having a staff that can travel easily. Mine doesn't!

To be honest the best staff for you to buy is right here in the HOP shop, the 3 part staff which you can break down and adjust to different lengths.

Hope this helps, pm if you need more info...

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Posted:ok

nice gripgood balance(if you want collapsable) good tight conections so it doesn't wobbleI personally have the
quote: concentrate inner core fire staff which is very nice.
apparently the

quote: leopard is also very tasty especially as its telescopic.

[garbo]

[ 13. November 2002, 01:17: Message edited by: [garbo] ]


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Raphael96
SILVER Member since Sep 2002

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Location: New York City

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Posted:What do you guys think of the breakaway staff shown here?

http://www.renegadejuggling.com/Web_store/web_store.cgi?page=fire4.html&cart_id=9534604.18805
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bender
GOLD Member since Nov 2001

still can't believe it's not butter
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Total posts: 6979
Posted:Garbo, i cannot know until i handle a leopard staff, but generally telescopic staves aren't as secure as screwed in staves. click-on connections are strong enough for vacuum cleaner tube extensions, but will it handle the stresses of being twirled? To be confident of the strength of one's firetoy has a very real impact on one's twirling. it's only common sense.

raph, it's Callum's 'innercore' 3 piece breakdown staff. you can even see the 'concentrate' logo on the staff. i have have tried many staves, and this staff is head and shoulders the most professional staff i have ever twirled. 'nuff said! made in melbourne, baby!


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Raphael96
SILVER Member since Sep 2002

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Posted:Bender,

Could you give me a url for Callum?

Thanks!

Raphael


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Fire_Emanator


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Location: Australia

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Posted:I personally prefer to make my own, it is easy and totally customisable. Most that are on sale that I have seen have been really crappy!!!!

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flash fire
BRONZE Member since Jan 2001

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Posted:Raph - you can buy that Staff from Juggleart or from Concentrate directly

[ 13. November 2002, 19:00: Message edited by: flash fire ]


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Raphael96
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Posted:What wick size do you recommend?

Raph

..who has many, many questions.


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Posted:In my opinion:

quote: THE BIGGER THE BETTER but it

depend on how much money you want to spend and how big you want the flame.

Tink the 100mm is better than the 50mm .

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Raphael96
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Posted:Thanks!

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toneman


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Posted:I have a quick question for you innercore/concentrate staff users.... I bought one off this site, and I love it, with one exception. One side of the staff seems to come loose after a couple of drops or a few contact rolls (without hitting the ground). My question is this... can I tighten the staff by mechanical means? Pliers will marr the aluminum, but I have this rubber strap type tool that will adjust to fit any diameter of tube and won't scratch. My worries are if I get it too tight, will the aluminum bend, or otherwise exacerbate the problem??

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Location: Austin TX USA

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Posted:Weighting is tricky. The weight of the shaft and the weight of the wicking will really change how your staff feels. My staff is wood, 52" long, with 3" x 36" wicking rolls at each end. I'd say it's on the heavy side--my wrists really took a beating when I was learning on it. I've made similar staffs with 3" x 24" wicking, and they feel surprisingly light (but maybe I've just been conditioned).

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flash fire
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Posted:toneman: gaff.

gaff is the answer to all the worlds problems

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Posted:Wow. I'm suprised people are recommending so many things.

I would say that it all comes down to personal preference.

I had to design and build my own staff because no one carried what I wanted. Most of the people I know are really pretty spicific about what they look for in a staff, and I have never heard a concensus on one uberstaff.

So I would suggest play with all of your friend's staffs, and spin everything that looks like a staff untill you figure out exactly what you want, then find someone who sells it or build your own.


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