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Posted: I have been trying to get this move for weeks and have just been whacking myself in the head (thats what seems to happen when you mess up this move). I figured out what I was doing wrong and figured i would share it here in hopes of keeping others from hitting their forheads over and over again. Ill explain it on the right side. What i had been doing was when it came time to twist my wrists to get that extra beat i would have the underside of my left wrist touching the topside of the right and would try to bring it over that way. I could just not get that left poi to come over to the left side (just a bunch of head hitting). What i figured out was that if i twisted my wristswith the topside of my left wrist touching the topside of the right i could twist it just a bit more, enough to get the poi over to the left side. Hope this will save some time (and brain cells) for others. Peace, Jarrett
Posted: Glass suggested spinning it above your head, which seemed to be working for me. I got a rotation or two yesterday with long chains above my head and was able to bring it down nicely. Another day or two of practice and I'll hopefully be there...
Well, shall we go? Yes, let's go. [They do not move.]
Posted: Whoa, whoa... you got me confused with someone else. I can't actually DO any of these moves and am therefore far from a God but only pride myself with some sense of beat counting which is right slightly more than it's wrong.
As for counting weave beats, yeah... I can do that.
In order to think of beats more than 3 you need to add a 'wind' where your arms get crossed.
If you're doing a 3 beat weave all day you'll notice that going from left to right side you lead with your left poi right? Now if you wanted to turn that left side into a 4 beat you'd keep that left hand on the left side for an extra rotation and bring your right hand across to the right side first.
Now you're pretty crossed as you move to your right side (leading with right hand)..
Untwist your right hand (that's one 'beat' on your right side) Do a standard 3 beat weave on your right side (3 poi 'beats') BUT now allow the right hand to stay for 'beat' and get twisted again (that's another 'beat' on your right side)
UG... poorly explained... also note that I've inappropriately used the words 'beat' on purpose... it's actually strange as you are split time... I'll try again.
Three beat weave on your left side is: Right poi Left poi Right poi
Then to your right side where it's: Left poi Right poi Left poi
NOW... a 4 beat will never be symmetrical like that... let's take one example where you're doing a 3 beat on your left side and want to kick it up to a 4 beat on your right side...
As stated above you're coming out of a 3 beat on your left side with your left hand crossing to your right side... so it would be regular 3 beat with an extra rotation on your right side with your right hand
Right side: Left Poi Right Poi Left Poi *Right Poi (OUCH! It should be tough at first to get your arms to do this!)
Then you bring your arms which are now painfully crossed across your body and unwrap THEN do three regular rotations
Left side of body *Left poi Right poi Left poi Right poi ... Now you've got an option. Either cross back over to your right in which case you're doing a 4 beat weave OR stay on your left side with your left poi and you're in a painful at first 5 beat weave.
If you want to make the above a 5 beat it should read (on your left side): *Left poi Right poi Left poi Right poi *Left poi
And the right side would be: *Right poi Left poi Right poi Left poi *Right poi
But note you HAD to do a 4 beat to get that arm wrapped the first time. You can't directly and simply go from a 3 to a 5.
That's my best shot.
Well, shall we go? Yes, let's go. [They do not move.]
Posted: trust me it's a seven (and i think it looks good to!) I'm doing the 3brw And then twisting into a 5 as normal and then stalling both arms til i get to 7 and then bringing them over to the other side to untangle (3bts) and tangle (the 4bts) again.
Before you say just bring the poi across on the 5 beat my forehead and temples have discovered that with my hands the way they are and the poi in their positions i cannot do a 4,5 brw!
Posted: No honestly it's seven. Trust me on this one. I found out i could do it kind of accidently then i realised what it was and practiced. It's seven beats on both sides of my body. Just got it forwards too! Yay!
Posted: NYC, they say you can explain everything in many different ways and a teacher must master at least 3 different ways. I think your way is the one that helps me.
That is... (ouch!) except for the changing of sides. So lets assume I do a 3 on the left then go right and add an extra beat with the * right hand poi. Then the left hand finishes its loop and i am trying to make it swing left but i have no strength there and the harder i try the more the right hand poi tangles around me...
And Malcolm, I am still looking forward to those 5 beat videos!
Posted: It sounds like tennis is wrapping to 7 from a 5.. maybe I'm just misunderstanding though. Stalling and letting the chains wrap to 7bts will give you your beats, but I wouldn't consider it a true 7bt weave
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