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Posted:Okay still havent'y gotten this one down smoothly (cause practice poi with those streamer things don't like it)anyways here is the concept..doing a weave lift you right leg and come up under it to wrap on it.... well wrap the one in your left hand but the the right hand one go and catch it(i heard suicides as the term for releases, and i like it so...) this puts you into a butterfly. Non-Https Image Link it was hard with the streamer poi so i only got really close on it, and i didn't try it with fire yet, want to do it unlit first.. anyways yeah... this can be done either direction, and i guess technically u could even reverse it from butterfly to weave... gotta love all the possibilities! hehehehwulff