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flash fireBRONZE Member
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Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia


Posted:
This space is for all those funksters busy improving their technique by learning new moves - made-up or traditional.



Tell us all about it! We love hearing about our fellow poiers/staffies/misc. toyers succeeding with new things biggrin

It's just hard to keep up with it all sometimes, so if we keep it together you'll be certain to get a little feedback.



here a pat on the back in advance from me



::flash enthusiastically pats your back::



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thirteenBRONZE Member
The Death Card
195 posts
Location: Minneapolis, MN USA


Posted:
thanks ash! I usually practice around an hour a day when I get home from work, sometimes more. it takes some dedication, but it doesn't hurt that poi is more fun than just about anything else I could do with my free time!

aston: how do you do it? if it's not too hard to explain, sometimes putting poi into words is awkward. and thanks as well smile
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astonSILVER Member
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Location: South Africa


Posted:
Not too hard to explain. Basically, inward butterfly, stall over one arm. Hold the stall until the other poi is coming up on the outside and bring both up together. Keep them together for part of a rotation, until the poi you stalled over the top is coming up on the outside. Normally it would start wrapping here, so do a horizontal stall and bring it back into your normal butterfly. This can then be repeated with the other poi.

I think I do it slightly differently, since I do not really care which butterfly I do, but that was the original conception of it.

Hope that that makes sense. If not, can do you a video in the coming week?

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"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
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thirteenBRONZE Member
The Death Card
195 posts
Location: Minneapolis, MN USA


Posted:
I think I get it. you're saying you stall the same poi twice in a butterfly, once over the arm, then back around and under in a horizontal stall, which allows you to go back into the butterfly. then you can stall the other poi and keep going.

if that's right, I was doing the reverse - starting with a weave, stalling one poi horizontally between my body and the other poi, then bringing the poi up and stalling it over the other arm, then going back into a weave.

The dawn has come
And the wine will run
And the song must be sung
And the flowers are melting
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astonSILVER Member
Unofficial Chairperson of Squirrel Defense League
4,061 posts
Location: South Africa


Posted:
That is right, yes. The goal for me was always to bring both poi back up together after the top stall. It can look pretty odd if you do not know what is going on, especially when done with alternating poi, since one seems to disappear and then suddenly reappear. The effect works better with fire, but it is still fun. Like I say, I do it differently now, and do not always do both stalls, but that is because I am more comfortable with all the basic butterflies than when I worked that move out.

And that is a very simple and elegant way of going into a butterfly, good work on figuring it out. Keep experimenting! smile

'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland


thirteenBRONZE Member
The Death Card
195 posts
Location: Minneapolis, MN USA


Posted:
elegant is a good word for it; I keep practicing butterfly stalls of all sorts because it's such a nice feeling. definitely something I'm glad I learned, and it wasn't too hard to figure out either (though I had worked on butterflies, weaves, and stalls all on their own first - I'm sure that helped).

The dawn has come
And the wine will run
And the song must be sung
And the flowers are melting
In the sun


astonSILVER Member
Unofficial Chairperson of Squirrel Defense League
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Location: South Africa


Posted:
Is a fairly logical thing to do, I remember working it out pretty early on.

Also: semi-colon!

'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland


thirteenBRONZE Member
The Death Card
195 posts
Location: Minneapolis, MN USA


Posted:
semi-colon is the punctuation of the gods!

The dawn has come
And the wine will run
And the song must be sung
And the flowers are melting
In the sun


hooza angelSILVER Member
Momma Hooza
24 posts
Location: Cleveland OK, USA


Posted:
Im new at spinning, i kno the basics, but i do a 3bw and bend backwards, or go on my knees and bend backwards, it has a really cool look and evry1 watching is like whoa, lol.

astonSILVER Member
Unofficial Chairperson of Squirrel Defense League
4,061 posts
Location: South Africa


Posted:
*shudders*

'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland


Ash3sSILVER Member
member
161 posts
Location: Durban South Africa


Posted:
I learned corkscrew without realising that I'd learned it... Almost there with fountain, thanks to aston. smile

astonSILVER Member
Unofficial Chairperson of Squirrel Defense League
4,061 posts
Location: South Africa


Posted:
Well, you had a corkscrew on Wednesday. smile

And you basically have the fountain down. grin
I am looking forward to seeing what you work on next.

'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland


Stnd54SILVER Member
newbie
42 posts
Location: Manchester/Essen, Germany


Posted:
Currently trying to transition into s/d crossers smoothly and get the meltdown sorted. I can wrap each side with a beat in between but when i try to take it out things get abit squiffy =(

I've been trying to get out of my weave, reels, TTN comfort zone as i reckon i'm starting to get a wee bit stale, but everytime I try to practice something seriously I just get distracted and end up dancing grrr.

Ash3sSILVER Member
member
161 posts
Location: Durban South Africa


Posted:
Originally Posted By: astonWell, you had a corkscrew on Wednesday. smile

And you basically have the fountain down. grin
I am looking forward to seeing what you work on next.

Fountain needs a LOT of work still... Will spend some time this week practicing it and hopefully get it to look smooth.

I'd like to try figure out butterfly weaves, but the tutorial is a little confusing. It's so pretty when you do it smile But we shall see...

astonSILVER Member
Unofficial Chairperson of Squirrel Defense League
4,061 posts
Location: South Africa


Posted:
Stdn: Try some constrained sessions. Basically, put limits on what you can do in a given spin. So for example, only split time moves.

Ash: The butterfly weave can be broken down. Do TTN on one side, then switch. Do TTN for a while there and switch. Eventually you can cut down on the amount of time spent doing TTN.

'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland


Ash3sSILVER Member
member
161 posts
Location: Durban South Africa


Posted:
Quick question, do you end up doing forwards TTN, then when you switch, end up with backwards TTN?

astonSILVER Member
Unofficial Chairperson of Squirrel Defense League
4,061 posts
Location: South Africa


Posted:
Yes.

The ah-ha moment for me was when I realised that your arms do a forward weave on one side and a reverse weave on the other.

'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland


Ash3sSILVER Member
member
161 posts
Location: Durban South Africa


Posted:
Cool, will mission with this and hopefully have something down by the next time I see you. smile Thank you friend :)x

thirteenBRONZE Member
The Death Card
195 posts
Location: Minneapolis, MN USA


Posted:
have fun with the fountain, ash. I think it's one of the first big "ooh, aah" moves. it's really visually pleasing.

The dawn has come
And the wine will run
And the song must be sung
And the flowers are melting
In the sun


astonSILVER Member
Unofficial Chairperson of Squirrel Defense League
4,061 posts
Location: South Africa


Posted:
Also, a useful building block for flowers. smile

Hmm.... I have worked out a rough analogue to the fountain in opposites. A bit tricky for me still, but doubt it is that hard really.

'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland


meshunderlayBRONZE Member
Juggler/Spinner
612 posts
Location: Hicksville, New York, USA


Posted:
Originally Posted By: Ash3sOriginally Posted By: astonWell, you had a corkscrew on Wednesday. smile

And you basically have the fountain down. grin
I am looking forward to seeing what you work on next.

Fountain needs a LOT of work still... Will spend some time this week practicing it and hopefully get it to look smooth.

I'd like to try figure out butterfly weaves, but the tutorial is a little confusing. It's so pretty when you do it smile But we shall see...

About the TTN weave....
I've watched a few tutorials and found a few to be misleading.

Just some things to mention, if you are doing TTN, you can turn right or left and being doing a forwards weave. Also, you can turn right or left and being doing a reverse weave. You can of course do a fountain with a TTN weave if you like, Forwards TTN weave, to reverse TTN weave, to over your head and back to Forwads again. (Not to be confused with somehow doing a Forward TTN on both sides of your body, it will switch between forward and reverse TTN). When I refer to a weave, I refer only to the way your hands/arms move.

I found trying TTN in front of me and turning 180 degrees (moving the poi at the same time), doing a TTN on the side of me and simply moving the poi (no body turn), and of course doing a TTN in front of me, then moving it behind me with minimal turning of the waist helped me to get more consistant results...

Sorry about rambling about.... where am I? *looks around*
Oooh, dinner time. Be well!

thirteenBRONZE Member
The Death Card
195 posts
Location: Minneapolis, MN USA


Posted:
dear btb weave,

you suck. why can't you be more like your brother, the 5bt weave? or your cousin, the btb butterfly? honestly, I feel like you're just being difficult for the sake of being difficult. cut it out.

sincerely,
thirteen

The dawn has come
And the wine will run
And the song must be sung
And the flowers are melting
In the sun


Sister ElevenGOLD Member
owner of the group property
1,277 posts
Location: Seattle, WA, USA


Posted:
Hang in there! It may take time (I had a lot of more advanced stuff down well before I could do btb reliably), but sooner or later it will click. For me, practicing the 2bt for a while helped me get the rhythm, and exaggerating my hand motions helped with plane control. Good luck!

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thirteenBRONZE Member
The Death Card
195 posts
Location: Minneapolis, MN USA


Posted:
thanks for the words of encouragement. you're right, it's just going to take time and practice... I have been a fast learner with most poi stuff so it's humbling to run into something that doesn't come to me so quickly. and that's a good thing for my ego anyway.

I'm feeling better though because I JUST DID MY FIRST SPIRAL WRAP! it's not quite up to snuff yet - getting out of it is a lot messier than getting in - but still! I've been looking forward to this day since the first time I saw someone do them. I'm gonna keep practicing, hopefully I can make it solid in time for tonight's spin jam.

The dawn has come
And the wine will run
And the song must be sung
And the flowers are melting
In the sun


hooza angelSILVER Member
Momma Hooza
24 posts
Location: Cleveland OK, USA


Posted:
tryin to get the reverse ttn, making me very angry but almost got it, keep gettin tangled, gggrrr

meshunderlayBRONZE Member
Juggler/Spinner
612 posts
Location: Hicksville, New York, USA


Posted:
This might not initially sound like "Beginner" but it so is.

I learned how to do a 1 handed Static spin vs Extension....



... by tucking the usually-held end of one of my poi into my belt and holding the head of that poi and the handle of the other in one hand.... NOW, what do I do with the other hand? In practice I just patted myself on the head. ^_^

HoniiSILVER Member
Life's Student
28 posts
Location: Mesa, AZ, USA


Posted:
After constantly hitting myself in the back of the head, I finally achieved the angel wings xD Now to get hyperloops and orbitals down pat >.<

-Honii

Just keep swinging, just keep swinging...


Ash3sSILVER Member
member
161 posts
Location: Durban South Africa


Posted:
I'm learning the "Split time swishy swishy butterfly thingy"... have all the pieces, now just need to connect all of them smile Aston does it beautifully... *so jealous* smile

astonSILVER Member
Unofficial Chairperson of Squirrel Defense League
4,061 posts
Location: South Africa


Posted:
Meshunderlay: That is you? Cool. tongue2

Ash: Bwahahaha. I like Durbs' name for it too. smile

'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland


JamethGOLD Member
enthusiast
378 posts
Location: NSW, Australia


Posted:
Sounds fun, whatisit???

astonSILVER Member
Unofficial Chairperson of Squirrel Defense League
4,061 posts
Location: South Africa


Posted:
Split-time antispin opposites wallplane flower. Or something like that.

Look for Durbs' tuts on youtube, it is one of them.

'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland


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