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for HoP by Mr Majestik
ok, so you're a newbie to the boards and you suddenly get the urge to
ask "how do I do a three beat weave, and how can I turn it into an
infinite-isolated-super-duper-hyper-loopy?" But before you go starting
a new thread on the subject, have you tried a search? Now I know sometimes
it can seem to be a lot harder than simply making your own thread, but
considering HoP has been in existence in some form for over six years
there is a high probability that what you seek has been discussed before.
The search engine HoP supplies is just the thing to help you sort though
all the posts that have been made over the years to find what you are
So, you've chosen to do the right thing and try searching HoP for the
information you desire, but how do you go about getting the search results
that you want? Well, there in lies the magic!
Finding the search section.
start a search it is helpful to be able to locate the search option on
HoP (duh) there are two main different ways to search on HoP.
The first is the Google search option in the top right hand corner of
the page; this is always visible no matter what you are viewing on HoP.
This option is quick and easy to access and should help you find what
you are looking for, although it does require leaving the HoP website
for a brief period. With this search method you can choose to search only
the HoP website or you can search the whole web.
The second search option can be found by clicking the 'community' sign
in the task bar which runs horizontally along the top of the website at
all times. Once this task bar is opened more options will appear horizontally
below the current one, around the middle of this menu is an option aptly
Clicking this will open the search page on HoP. Alternatively this search
page is also accessible by logging into your HoP account and clicking
the search option next to the "my home" option. This search
option only searches the HoP forums and listings appear according first
by their ratings, and then as they are found.
the Quick Search (of the Forum).
is a simple but faster search engine that only searches the title and
first post of each thread (excluding the introductions forum)
it can not search for exact phrases or be told to exclude words but it
will trim your search of common words so it will find its results faster.
It will also only display 10 results from each search.
If this does not find anything suitable then please try the advanced search
found further down the page.
the Advanced Search (of the Forum).
Ok, so you've found the HoP
advanced search, but what should you type to search, and where should
you look for it?
The HoP search page has a number of different variables you can search
- The large box on the left of the search page gives you the option
of searching in one, some or all of the Forums, you need to consider
what it is you are searching for and where you believe you are most
likely to find it. Keep in mind the more specific you can be the less
results you will get and the less results you will have to sort through.
- At the top of the right side of the search page is the "keywords'
section. In the keyword box you can type keywords that you want to find
in your search. Because search engines are programs they can only function
as they were created, this usually means that you actually have to think
about what you want to know, they can't mind read after all! A 'keyword'
is any word on the pages that are being searched; however search engines
usually ignore words such as "the" "a" or "is"
because they are extremely common. Keywords should be as short and precise
as they can be. If you wish to find out how to do a three beat weave,
the keywords would be "weave, three-beat and how". This means
that you are searching for information on the weave, and the type of
weave is the 'three beat', and 'how' it is done.
- The keyword box can be refined so as you search for things in conjunction
with or ignoring things. If you wish to know about the three beat weave
specifically it may help to type three+beat+weave, as this will mean
the search engine will only supply pages that have all three words.
Likewise if you wish to search a phrase, such as "three beat weave",
you can simply put it in quotation marks and the search engine will
return only pages with the exact phrase. If you wish to search specifically
for something that is independent from something else you can use the
minus sign. Say you wish to read about staff but not poi, you can search
staff- poi and you will get results that contain the word staff and
not the word poi.
- Below the keywords box are three options, they ask where in the pages
do you want to search for the keywords, either in the subject heading,
the subject heading and the consequent replies, or in the subject heading
and the first post. When searching you should consider which part of
the page your keywords are likely to be in, and change the selection
- Below the keywords section is the 'search user' option, this option
will search for posts by the user in whatever part of the forums you
have selected, and will list then from the most recent to the least
- Below the search user option is the 'Date Range' option. If you know
the date the post or thread was made this tool can be mighty useful.
You simply have to switch "search posts made on any date"
to "search posts within the following range" and then indicate
the dates between you wish to search by filling in the blanks. Remember
you still need to have "key words" when you use the date range
The user search option can be found
by clicking the 'community' sign in the task bar which runs horizontally
along the top of the website at all times. Once this task bar is opened
more options will appear horizontally below the current one, slightly
right of centre on this menu bar is an option titled "User List" Clicking
this will open HoPs complete user list. Alternatively the user list is
also accessible by logging into your HoP account and clicking the "user
List" link option below the "main Index" link.
When on the "User List" page, there is a search option in the
middle of the page immediately above the list of users. This can be used
to search exact user names so as you can view people's profiles, note
only correct usernames or part of usernames will be found.
Video/Image Gallery Searches.
Both the Video and Image Galleries
can be found by clicking the 'community' sign in the task bar which runs
horizontally along the top of the website at all times. Once clicked you
will find directly below this the "gallery" and the "Video"
sections are available. Open these windows and if you can't find the image
or video that you want you can click the "search" option which
is located on the right of the page in a white bar above the list of images/videos.
Alternatively the gallery search is also accessible by logging into your
HoP account and clicking the "gallery search" link directly
below the "who's on line" link.
In this search both images and videos will be found in the results.
There are three different variables that can be addressed when searching
in the Gallery. These are:
- The "Keywords" box, found on the left of the search option,
should be filled in to specify what it is you want to find. (Please
see the "keyword" box explanation in the "Doing an Advanced
Search" section of this article). Unlike the "keywords"
box in the Advanced Search of the Forums, the "Keywords" box
in the gallery enables you to search for the title of the image or video,
the title and description of the image or video, comments made about
the video, or all fields.
- At the top of the right section of the search box is a "search
by user option". This option enables you to find all images or
videos uploaded onto HoP by any single user.
- Lastly there is an option to "specify a date range" where
if you know when a certain image or video you wish to find was posted,
then you can specify that time by simply filling in the blank boxes.
The administrators have recently
put in place a rating system, with which you can rate threads as to how
useful and informative you consider them to be. The higher the average
rating a thread gets the more likely it is to appear on the top of the
search list when you search for it. This means that if you do find a useful
thread it would be greatly appreciated if you take the time to rate it
by going to the 'rate this thread' window just above the quick reply box.
In closing, please remember that the search option is just a simple program,
it cannot think like us and although it will find the words you are looking
for, it has no comprehension of what they mean or what context they should
be in, you are smarter than it! THINK about what you want to search, ADDRESS
the variables and PATIENTLY find what you seek!
Good luck and happy HoPping
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