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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Posted:just wondering...

I mean, is the traffic beggining to rival shashdot? can we have fun bringing other sites down?

T


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Malcolm
Malcolm

HOP admin
Location: HOP
Member Since: 18th Nov 2003
Total posts: 995
Posted:Looks pretty normal to me. Shashdot? Bringing sites down?

"May your balls always burn"

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MikeIcon
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Location: Philadelphia, PA - USA
Member Since: 27th Mar 2003
Total posts: 2109
Posted:+) r teh l33t hax0r

Let's turn those old bridges we crossed into ashes.
We'll blaze a new trail,
and torch the rough patches.

-Me

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Matthew B-M
Matthew B-M

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Location: East London Wilds
Member Since: 9th Jul 2003
Total posts: 605
Posted:please no! please! please!

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purity :: clarity :: balance

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UCOF
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Carpal \'Tunnel

Member Since: 17th Apr 2002
Total posts: 15414
Posted:Royal..

if that happens once more..it shall result in a slap.

if it happens twice more...it shall result in a slap with a hallibut.

if it happens thrice more...it shall result in smallboy forcing his tongue down your throat.



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frostypaw
Great balls of fire
Location: Tunbridge Wells, Kent
Member Since: 28th Jul 2003
Total posts: 643
Posted:punishment punishment reward? huh?

I can SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

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Matthew B-M
Matthew B-M

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Posted:I guess it's a good thing that "poking in the ribs" doesn't feature anywhere there, eh, UCOF ?

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Nathdaninja
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Location: Manchester, England
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Posted:Re: bringing sites down I think +) means by linking to them on a popular thread, hence loads of people hit the link and baddabigboom! Slashdot as goosed several sites by doing that.

I may have missed the fact that you already understood this and am now making myself look foolish..ah well why change the habit of a life time


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bender
still can't believe it's not butter
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Member Since: 14th Nov 2001
Total posts: 6979
Posted:hey i think that's what happened to poor Tomo when we linked a thread to his groovy comprehensive baton twirling moves videos site.
he had to change the folder name so that the original links wouldn't take his site down....


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Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Europe,Scotland,Both
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Posted:Cool! *rubs hads evily* what shall we try first?

T :evil:


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Location: Philadelphia, PA - USA
Member Since: 27th Mar 2003
Total posts: 2109
Posted:Our competition...?

http://www.firechains.com/
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Let's turn those old bridges we crossed into ashes.
We'll blaze a new trail,
and torch the rough patches.

-Me

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coleman
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big and good and broken
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay
Member Since: 29th Aug 2002
Total posts: 7330
Posted:competition...?

hop is the first thing listed on the firechains links page (and on most of the other pages) so i think its cool.

hold on - they don't sell beaming balls do they?!!!???!

[ 13. August 2003, 21:03: Message edited by: coleman ]


"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood

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Malcolm
Malcolm

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Location: HOP
Member Since: 18th Nov 2003
Total posts: 995
Posted:We use 30Gb of bandwidth per week on our servers.
We only have stats (hits,visitors, etc) on one of the servers.
When I get the bill for our bandwidth I can understand why some sites get shut down, or change their links.


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spiralx
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Location: London, UK
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Posted:quote:Originally posted by Malcolm:
We use 30Gb of bandwidth per week on our servers.
We only have stats (hits,visitors, etc) on one of the servers.
When I get the bill for our bandwidth I can understand why some sites get shut down, or change their links. Just a suggestion... but when you post anything there's an intermediate page before it goes back to the thread you just posted in. If you had another link on there to take you back to the forum that thread is in it would certainly save bandwidth from me... because I have to wait for the thread to completely reload and then go straight back to the forum, which is a total waste of your bandwidth.


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spiralx
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Posted:quote:Originally posted by +):
just wondering...

I mean, is the traffic beggining to rival shashdot? can we have fun bringing other sites down?

T Somehow I think that /. will always be bigger... more geeks than spinny people


"Moo," said the happy cow.

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Malcolm
Malcolm

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Location: HOP
Member Since: 18th Nov 2003
Total posts: 995
Posted:SpiralX,

I am happy when our bandwidth goes up
More Bandwidth = More spinners (and geek spinners?)

HOP is still only a small site compared to others (outside the spinning arts).


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bender
still can't believe it's not butter
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Member Since: 14th Nov 2001
Total posts: 6979
Posted:considering that HoP employs a 'non-fat' design,
ZOUNDS!
30Gb that's insane.
It must be the videos and lessons.
but still it must also account for a lot of text.
on a related point, i quite enjoy non-fat designs, cus it means i *don't* have to load 1Mb of amusing avatars just to read a thread

gimme an 'H'
gimme a 'P'
gimme a backspace
gimme an 'O'
gimme a 'P'!
what does that spell?
:long pause:
..don't tell me...
:short pause:
..almost got it..
:another long pause:

HOME of POI!!!


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flid
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Warwickshire
Member Since: 27th Aug 2002
Total posts: 3136
Posted:to be honest i'm impressed its only 120gb a month. If you are running a site with a shop and the more traffic you have the more likely you are to have sales, then 120 pounds a month bandwidth fee (120 pounds if you're getting ripped off by your ISP that is) is extremely cheap advertising.

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Malcolm
Malcolm

HOP admin
Location: HOP
Member Since: 18th Nov 2003
Total posts: 995
Posted:I can highly recomend this program here
Pipe Boost
for saving bandwidth on text (not graphics or videos). Makes a big difference to download times too.


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Malcolm
Malcolm

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Location: HOP
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Total posts: 995
Posted:quote:Originally posted by flid:
to be honest i'm impressed its only 120gb a month. If you are running a site with a shop and the more traffic you have the more likely you are to have sales, then 120 pounds a month bandwidth fee (120 pounds if you're getting ripped off by your ISP that is) is extremely cheap advertising. 12O pounds? If I wanted cheap I could pay 10 pounds per month for 120Gb. I have tried one of the "cheaper" ISP's, yes it worked, but they were really crap. Super slow service. No taped off-site backups. Slow/limited connection. Did not trust the security. Never replied to emails for days. We pay a very much higher price and demand the best security, service, backup and support, 100Mb/sec backbone that is not overloaded, 3 x custom servers. Basically it is about security, speed, flexability and service. I really do not think you'd get much security/service/flexability/speed for 120 pounds/month?


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Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Europe,Scotland,Both
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Posted:quote:Originally posted by bender:

gimme an 'H'
gimme a 'P'
gimme a backspace
gimme an 'O'
gimme a 'P'!
what does that spell?
:long pause:
..don't tell me...
:short pause:
..almost got it..
:another long pause:

HOME of POI!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

bender man, you the best, but then you frikkin live here, when do you get time to practice?

on the low-fat issue, well done! im on bad dialup and slow mac and my life wouldent be worth livin if this stuff took any longer!

T


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bender
still can't believe it's not butter
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Member Since: 14th Nov 2001
Total posts: 6979
Posted:useless fact 1336:
"You don't have to waste time logging out of HoP if yer never leave."


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flid
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Warwickshire
Member Since: 27th Aug 2002
Total posts: 3136
Posted:quote:I really do not think you'd get much security/service/flexability/speed for 120 pounds/month?Trying not to turn this into another geeky thread, i have a habit of doing such things

Oh i agree, there's some awful american hosters who buy 1u of rackspace then cram on 1000s of sites onto a single machine and flog it off at rediculously low prices which they can't possibly honour (avoid any ISP offering unlimited bandwidth like the plague), but i was talking about colocation. For example:

Me and a housemate have a colo machine in the london docklands (telehouse north) as part of a server cooperative - a bunch of 50 or so geeks (mainly with unix admin jobs) who get together and buy several racks and links/bandwidth to use for their own projects, game servers, development etc (for instance I amongst other things currently run the irc interface/bots for HoP on it). Towards it we pay 40 quid a month for 1u space, which includes 40gb of transfer, then each extra gig is 1 quid (ie cost price). It's our server and we can access it 24/7 if there's a problem. Physical security is extremely good, security guards, cameras, proximatey swipe cards etc. Network security is as good as you make the machine - it's our hardware, our OS, our software etc. The room has aircon, fire supression gas stuff, UPS and the building has generators with 24 hours worth emergency fuel. Service is in the form of DIY (ie drive there and do it yourself), or if a machine just needs rebooting we can ask anyone who is going in that day to reboot it, or if the NIC is down we can access a term server for it. Speed from our machine to the switch is 100mbit, i'm not sure the total bandwidth for the coop on all it's links (our main one being the BBC - www.bbc.co.uk is in the same room! ), but it must be upto 1 gigabit - i've never had a problem transferring from fast servers to it at almost 100mbit.

Basically its a non profit org run by clueful people, so we get our rackspace and bandwidth at cost price, not a hosting service run by idiots. There's no tech support as such, because no one is paid, but everyone is friendly and we've yet to have any downtime that was due to failure of their system/routers. It's so cheap that personally i'd never use a hoster again if i can help it. I don't know about in nz, but there's quite a few simular groups in the UK.

This post is by no means a dig at HoP or telling you you are being ripped off, because i know no details about HoP's servers, how much you pay etc, i just wanted to show that it is possible to get good quality hosting at 1 pound a gig (or cheaper if you need hundreds of gigs and pay for a link) using server coops. I do know what you mean about cheap commercial hosting services thou, i've also used them in the past and i wouldn't touch them with a barge pole.

Keep up the good work

[ 14. August 2003, 15:03: Message edited by: flid ]


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Malcolm
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Posted:Flid,

You are so Lucky
I am not equiped to do all that so I have to rely on others. But I have learnt that in order to sleep and have a life (and stay married ) you have to get others to help you complete your tasks.


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flid
flid

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Warwickshire
Member Since: 27th Aug 2002
Total posts: 3136
Posted:quote:But I have learnt that in order to sleep and have a life (and stay married ) you have to get others to help you complete your taskswell i'm not married (far from), but i do agree. I've thought about using the machine for hosting commercial sites (serveral of the other machines in the rack are used for, eg http://www.bytemark-hosting.co.uk),
but for the sake of some extra beer money each month, now i have outdoor hobbies and a social life i don't think i can be arsed to drive upto london at 3am to fix a broken server . Unix boxes just don't have the same appeal that they used to. I'm also weary about giving friends accounts on it, cause they have a tendency to be greatful at first, then expect you to be free tech support 24/7. I do offer people free bandwidth off it for mirroring large files thou, because i've always managed to get free stuff out of the internet (open source software, free shell accounts etc) and I'd like to think i can give something back. But it is a hobby, and there's no guarantees


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spiralx
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Location: London, UK
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Posted:quote:Originally posted by Malcolm:
SpiralX,

I am happy when our bandwidth goes up
More Bandwidth = More spinners (and geek spinners?)

HOP is still only a small site compared to others (outside the spinning arts). But surely less bandwidth with the same amount of spinners is a good idea costwise?


"Moo," said the happy cow.

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SmallBoys Evil Twin Brother
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Location: London
Member Since: 12th Sep 2002
Total posts: 55
Posted:I'd just like to point out that SmallBoy only sticks his tongue down your throat if he wants to, and shouldn't be given up as a prize or indeed threat.....

Plus which he's kinda sulking about that fact that Jon was sooooo traumatised and is now scared of talking to guys - xxx - especially 17 year olds that are in denial -


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